Yeah, another problem on BGs, I hope you never make this kind of mistakes again

Jefechuta

So, what is the point of making an attacker buff that is helpful for the defender?

Ill explain myself, why, having the willpower mastery, would you think that giving the enemy defender non-damaging debuffs that do not prevent healing, would be useful at all for us, the attackers?

There is a lot of lack on testing before putting out this kind of things, obviously its something you could miss, yeah, thats why this kind of things are tested so you can say, "okay, this more than an attacker buff is another defender buff, lets change it."

Its not the first time that we get untested senseless things on the game, so please, out of despair, please, test this stuff before putting it live.

If you need ideas you have the Beta testing, ask the players that have been playing a lot of time and dealt with a lot of nodes which ones could they like to see on BGs, maybe they can bring some bright ideas instead of this senseless ones.

Pikolu

Just run despair and they barely heal. Easy game easy life. Also if you're in GC tomorrow, you'll be grateful for the attack tactic since all defenders are hazard shift which is free WP healing for those with the tactic.

JHRanch

Pikolu said:

Just run despair and they barely heal. Easy game easy life. Also if you're in GC tomorrow, you'll be grateful for the attack tactic since all defenders are hazard shift which is free WP healing for those with the tactic.

Yeah its a case by case basis..they don't make it better for the attacker most of the time.
BG is literally designed for the defender to have the advantage or it would be too easy.

Pikolu

JHRanch said:

Pikolu said:

Just run despair and they barely heal. Easy game easy life. Also if you're in GC tomorrow, you'll be grateful for the attack tactic since all defenders are hazard shift which is free WP healing for those with the tactic.

Yeah its a case by case basis..they don't make it better for the attacker most of the time.
BG is literally designed for the defender to have the advantage or it would be too easy.

Yeah, but if you run titania, it is a huge advantage. Sugarpill is also a huge advantage for Cassie because you can end every combo with a light and permanently keep poison up on the opponent. Also makes defenders like Chavez, wong, and mangog a cakewalk due to how they negatively interact with wither.

Jefechuta

Pikolu said:

Just run despair and they barely heal. Easy game easy life. Also if you're in GC tomorrow, you'll be grateful for the attack tactic since all defenders are hazard shift which is free WP healing for those with the tactic.

Yeah would be nice, but Im missing mastery points due to the Act 4 rework, again, another stuff that goes live without being tested or looked at.

DNA3000

Jefechuta said:

So, what is the point of making an attacker buff that is helpful for the defender?

Ill explain myself, why, having the willpower mastery, would you think that giving the enemy defender non-damaging debuffs that do not prevent healing, would be useful at all for us, the attackers?

There is a lot of lack on testing before putting out this kind of things, obviously its something you could miss, yeah, thats why this kind of things are tested so you can say, "okay, this more than an attacker buff is another defender buff, lets change it."

Its not the first time that we get untested senseless things on the game, so please, out of despair, please, test this stuff before putting it live.

If you need ideas you have the Beta testing, ask the players that have been playing a lot of time and dealt with a lot of nodes which ones could they like to see on BGs, maybe they can bring some bright ideas instead of this senseless ones.

What makes you think this was untested? Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean the developers made a mistake. There are a lot of effects that have knock on secondary effects, and not all of those are always 100% desirable under all circumstances. This is a long-standing thing in the game: the notion that everything has to always be beneficial to everyone at all times. Sometimes things are intended to be a benefit most of the time, but they have counters that can reverse that benefit. Sometimes things are intended to have a benefit in some situations and not others. And sometimes things are just intended to be things, and it is up to the player to figure out how to leverage them, or suffer the penalty of them being suboptimal or even detrimental.

"It is called a buff, it should always help me all of them time" is not a rule that has ever been enforced in this game, nor is it likely to ever be. We're not going to start calling them "Attacker effects-that-can-sometimes-be-helpful-but-might-also-be-reversible-by-the-defender."

flapjax

I only run 1/3 Despair and it feels more than enough to curve the healing, especially since most Decay attackers are science and have multiple debuffs (lots have petrify too) already the healing becomes negligible pretty fast.

Unless you're really punching up with like a 5 star vs a R2 7 Star it shouldn't be an issue from my experience.

Demonzfyre

Jefechuta said:

So, what is the point of making an attacker buff that is helpful for the defender?

Ill explain myself, why, having the willpower mastery, would you think that giving the enemy defender non-damaging debuffs that do not prevent healing, would be useful at all for us, the attackers?

There is a lot of lack on testing before putting out this kind of things, obviously its something you could miss, yeah, thats why this kind of things are tested so you can say, "okay, this more than an attacker buff is another defender buff, lets change it."

Its not the first time that we get untested senseless things on the game, so please, out of despair, please, test this stuff before putting it live.

If you need ideas you have the Beta testing, ask the players that have been playing a lot of time and dealt with a lot of nodes which ones could they like to see on BGs, maybe they can bring some bright ideas instead of this senseless ones.

Kingpin Vs Void would like to have a word.

BringPopcorn

Are you trying to replace Golivarez?