Suggestion / solution to Battlegrounds - leagues based on champions' stars

NoOnexRO

Hello,

In every sport, there is a clear separation between adults and children.
No matter how amazing a 5-year-old at tennis, you won't place him in the same competition with Nadal or Djokovic - there are "little leagues" created for children so they can battle their peers.

There are a lot of complaints about Battlegrounds, where smaller accounts consider that competing against huge accounts is not fair.
Kabam created Battlegrounds as a free-for-all type of event.
So, it doesn't matter if you only have 1-2 6* champions... sooner or later you will face accounts with 5-6 or more 7* champions.

My suggestion is simple: add leagues based on champions' stars.

Leave the existing form as it is - a free-for-all with high rewards but also create 2 secondary leagues for 4* champions and 5* champions.
In these leagues, anyone can join, of course... but the selection of the champions would be limited to 4* or 5* - similar to how Arenas work (there are high arenas where you can join with 5*, 6*, 7* champions but there are low arenas where you can only join with 4* champions).
In these "little leagues", the rewards will be lower but will add extra value to your 4* and 5* champions by giving them new content to be used in.

Also, this will solve the "Solo Battlegrounds Objectives" problem.
Currently, smaller accounts cannot complete the 2-days objectives because they are faced with larger accounts and they always lose no matter what.

I look forward to the community's feedback.

Thank you,
NoOnexRO

RexnSpike

I like it. It doesn’t solve the AI woes but does create a space for good gameplayers to take on appropriately matched champs.

MiniMF

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone. Also lot of players would still be better thant most players because of game knowledge and game experience, you can give a cav / tb player the same roster of a top player he would still loose to them.

the only way to "solve" these rosters gap would be to kabam giving access to every champion in any rarity and make players choose during off season who to rank up specifivally for the next BG season (a bit like they did for battlerealm) and then reset the rank / sig after the season ends.

But in term of $$ thats not worth it so wont happend

NoOnexRO

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

MiniMF

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

its not a question of how much champ they have but how much they have ranked up.. the gap would still be huge. A UC player would never be able to beat a paragon player in term of skill gap.

Most high end players here have half 4/5* maxed out (if not more), its not a UC with 3 r5 4* that will win against them

ahmynuts

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

An uncollected with high skill wouldnt be uncollected

BringPopcorn

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

And this would incentive getting new champs and ranking them up how?...
You trying to tell me that the rank ups I made all this seasons for BGs are going to be wasted cause now they made a parallel league?...
How about we leave it as it is and you progress more and rank up more?

BringPopcorn

There is one thing that unfortunately you will learn about MCoC, making a parallel smaller league with rewards, makes bigger accounts farm those rewards too. It won't be as easy as you think

GroundedWisdom

ahmynuts said:

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

An uncollected with high skill wouldnt be uncollected

I've come across a number of anomalies in BGs. I've seen Players who are very skilled with lower Accounts. I presume they are Alts.

WinterFields

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

While 5* are much easier to obtain, most paragons and upper TB already have many 5*s maxed out with high sig and several ascended. These accounts won't have trouble getting the newest champs or ranking up the perfect counters for each meta, while lower accounts won't have quite that depth. It would be easier for the lower accounts than it is now, but I would still foresee many complaints

Ironman3000

That wouldn't really solve anything as the vets would just dominate the 4* BGs to farm points. Despite what may want to think, most endgame players actually do have more skill than newer players and not just bigger rosters.

Ironman3000

NoOnexRO said:

MiniMF said:

this wouldnt solve anything since bigger accounts would also have insane 4 and 5 stars rosters still smashing anyone.

Sorry, but I cannot agree with your statement. 4* and 5* champions are easy to be obtained.
Easier than a 6* or a 7*.
So, an uncollected with high skill could beat a paragon even if the paragon will have more 4*.

And where did this magical unicorn UC get all those skills to beat the Paragon?

BringPopcorn

Ironman3000 said:

That wouldn't really solve anything as the vets would just dominate the 4* BGs to farm points. Despite what may want to think, most endgame players actually do have more skill than newer players and not just bigger rosters.

They don't realize a lot of things. The sole excuse is "oh unfair he has 7", he has rank 5, he has blahblahbla"
I would love to see a UC beat a Paragon on a 5* only match when they don't even have full masteries.

Ironman3000

It's like we didn't have 3 seasons of vets filling their decks with 5* and 4* champs to cruise to the GC before Kabam changed the matchmaking.

WOLF_LINK

I would support Leagues, if you make different Reward Tiers as well (just like Cavalier, TB, Paragon difference for Side Quest).

So everyone lower than Paragon won‘t be able to get huge numbers of 7* Shards, Titan Shards, Abyss Nexus or T6CC from BG Milestones, because they play in a lower League. Just like Nadal will earn way more prize money in his League than the 5-year-old in Kid‘s League.

NoOnexRO

Thank you all for your input. So far my idea is not as good as I thought.

WOLF_LINK

BringPopcorn said:

There is one thing that unfortunately you will learn about MCoC, making a parallel smaller league with rewards, makes bigger accounts farm those rewards too. It won't be as easy as you think

You could make it like Incursions, where you can‘t do lower Sectors for rewards depending on the number of 5*/6* Champs or your progression title. You are in one League and can’t get into a higher/lower one during the Season.

BringPopcorn

WOLF_LINK said:

BringPopcorn said:

There is one thing that unfortunately you will learn about MCoC, making a parallel smaller league with rewards, makes bigger accounts farm those rewards too. It won't be as easy as you think

You could make it like Incursions, where you can‘t do lower Sectors for rewards depending on the number of 5*/6* Champs or your progression title. You are in one League and can’t get into a higher/lower one during the Season.

It should be gated upwards which is not fair either.
The moment you open the final X* crystal that crosses you over the threshold will screw you completely....

Ayden_noah1

WOLF_LINK said:

BringPopcorn said:

There is one thing that unfortunately you will learn about MCoC, making a parallel smaller league with rewards, makes bigger accounts farm those rewards too. It won't be as easy as you think

You could make it like Incursions, where you can‘t do lower Sectors for rewards depending on the number of 5*/6* Champs or your progression title. You are in one League and can’t get into a higher/lower one during the Season.

I have suggest this idea many times already. I would love for this to happen so we can have different complaints about BG match not being fair since the other UC has more skill and a better roster then me. The rewards will be like incursions as well so the lower league can't be getting the same rewards as the top players.

Ayden_noah1

Ironman3000 said:

It's like we didn't have 3 seasons of vets filling their decks with 5* and 4* champs to cruise to the GC before Kabam changed the matchmaking.

This was a problem when skilled Paragon players actually put 4 and 5 stars deck only to face other similar deck. Players were complaining how the skilled players were illegally beating up on newer or less skilled players so Kabam had to adjust it. Your idea of deck strength will only make skilled players have easier access to win using the lower star champs. Also those skilled players with smaller alternative accounts was having a great time beating up all those other similar accounts and reaching GC faster and easier then their main bigger accounts since they were facing less skilled players. Your idea falls short since it's been proveen that similar roster strength matches will create a different problem. Also Kabam makes money when players upgrade their roster via, champ upgrades or champ aquisition. Your idea would throw that out the window. Why would I upgrade or bother getting new champs if it makes my deck stronger thereby facing stiffer competition.

PT_99

NoOnexRO said:

Hello,

In every sport, there is a clear separation between adults and children.
No matter how amazing a 5-year-old at tennis, you won't place him in the same competition with Nadal or Djokovic - there are "little leagues" created for children so they can battle their peers.

There are a lot of complaints about Battlegrounds, where smaller accounts consider that competing against huge accounts is not fair.
Kabam created Battlegrounds as a free-for-all type of event.
So, it doesn't matter if you only have 1-2 6* champions... sooner or later you will face accounts with 5-6 or more 7* champions.

My suggestion is simple: add leagues based on champions' stars.

Leave the existing form as it is - a free-for-all with high rewards but also create 2 secondary leagues for 4* champions and 5* champions.
In these leagues, anyone can join, of course... but the selection of the champions would be limited to 4* or 5* - similar to how Arenas work (there are high arenas where you can join with 5*, 6*, 7* champions but there are low arenas where you can only join with 4* champions).
In these "little leagues", the rewards will be lower but will add extra value to your 4* and 5* champions by giving them new content to be used in.

Also, this will solve the "Solo Battlegrounds Objectives" problem.
Currently, smaller accounts cannot complete the 2-days objectives because they are faced with larger accounts and they always lose no matter what.

I look forward to the community's feedback.

Thank you,
NoOnexRO

Also nerf the rewards,
High ranks high rewards
Because let's face it, kid tennis players don't earn anything in comparison to pro tennis players.
Happy?

4* BG will get materials to upgrade 5* barely
5* BG matches will get materials to upgrade 5* somewhat
6* BG will get all the.