Has torch fallen off?

Yezzs

With the addition of science champs like og hulk, titania, scorpion, qs, cassie, silk, science class is obv very stacked.

Is torch still relevant in the game anymore? Do people still use him now that theres so many other, arguably more versatile champs with better dmg output?

WinterFields

He is one of my most banned champs in BG, if that gives any indication. He still melts mystics quite effectively

Crcrcrc

He is still easily the quickest option for mystics imo

ahmynuts

He has not fallen off in the slightest

RonSwanson

Not even close. Use him all the time to melt Mystics

Lovejoy72

WinterFields said:

He is one of my most banned champs in BG, if that gives any indication. He still melts mystics quite effectively

I think that’s true in war as well, and arguably why he doesn’t enter into conversation as much. Frankly, everywhere that’s super relevant, you can’t use him (no one will let you).

Ngoalong711

your feeling is because of last season in BGs we can't use torch and those science that you listed are decay attackers

Rasilover

He’s still the best at smoking energy based characters

MrSakuragi

Lovejoy72 said:

WinterFields said:

He is one of my most banned champs in BG, if that gives any indication. He still melts mystics quite effectively

I think that’s true in war as well, and arguably why he doesn’t enter into conversation as much. Frankly, everywhere that’s super relevant, you can’t use him (no one will let you).

Agree. There’s a reason he’s on the blacklist on one of the AW maps this season.

peixemacaco

Best counter to Spidey Supreme.

BeastDad

Absolutely not

Maratox

CASrinivas

Seriously?!
That dude literally burns a Whole Class (Except Kushala)

ReignkingTW

I ban him every time.

Because I don't have him and I love my mystic defense.

Jack2634

maybe a bit since aw and previous season was decay meta. I will still have him in my deck in season 13 BGs though , some matches he will melt enemy mystic defender even faster than titania

GroundedWisdom

ReignkingTW said:

I ban him every time.

Because I don't have him and I love my mystic defense.

It used to be him and AA automatically for me, but I freed up space by using Bleed and/or Poison Immune. Sometimes I wish we had more Bans. Lol

Priyabrata

Yezzs said:

With the addition of science champs like og hulk, titania, scorpion, qs, cassie, silk, science class is obv very stacked.

Is torch still relevant in the game anymore? Do people still use him now that theres so many other, arguably more versatile champs with better dmg output?

Absolutely not that is is an absolute cheat for any mystic and energy damage matchup unless the opponent has like crazy high energy resistance or some node like Like Energy Diet that shut shuts down his damage completely

jcphillips7

I think it's the facade due to him being banned everywhere. And if you've finished story content, you have nowhere to use him other than arena, so it appears as if he's been forgotten in a sense.

captain_rogers

CASrinivas said:

Seriously?!
That dude literally burns a Whole Class (Except Kushala)

Why?kushala immune to nova flames?

WOLF_LINK

No, he works for EQ Kushala. Just don’t hit her Block, that’s bad somehow.

spiderknight616

Ik people are mentioning mystic and energy champions but with nova flames on he melts pretty much anyone so he's super useful in BGs

A_Fungi

As many others have mentioned, I think this is a perception because of the AW and BG nodes that he isn't included on (because he would be OP then)

I intentionally keep him out of my BG deck so he is an instant ban for me, I just can't usually kill people as quickly as others do, and I do have a lot of mystic defenders

Garlo

peixemacaco said:

Best counter to Spidey Supreme.

*Photon enters the room.*

ChrisPowell

He still does what he does. He's just not the only one that does it anymore

Addictor

Kabam is hiding 2–3 top champs in each class as 7 stars. HT is one of them.