Ascend CGR or Galan for BGs

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Feel like Galan is pretty easy to take down and not as much of a defender as people make him out ti be, but the main advantage he has over CGR is working for more metas since CGR has to parry and do 5 hit combos.

With that said CGR takes on far more meta defenders outside his class advantage such as Maestro, Onslaught, KM, Korg, Photon and more.

That ascenscion can help for the tanky defenders . When ascenscion was new he wasn’t who youd go to, but we will have more r2 and r3 defenders. 7* korg and km are pretty tanky so that extra damage could help

JLordVileJ

Galan

Galan is duel threat, plus his ascension directly affects his base damage meaning his harvest damage will increase

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JLordVileJ said:

Galan is duel threat, plus his ascension directly affects his base damage meaning his harvest damage will increase

He's certainly a better dual threat than CGR, but he's not that bad to fight on defense.

I'm wondering who needs it more for offensive purposes. (yes Galan needs it for harvest, but CGR takes on more meta defenders like Korg/KM/Maestro/Photon and Onslaught). There's not too many top defenders you would want to use a Galan over CGR for aside from the obvious tech champs.

SlayerOfGods

Galan

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

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SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

He's not, he's rank 4. I plan to take Hulkling to r5 with t6cc. I wouldn't use t6cc to r5 a cosmic after that, but EOP could potentially give me a cosmic gem, which would go between one of these 2 champs in the poll.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

SlayerOfGods

Galan

Polygon said:

SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

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SlayerOfGods said:

Polygon said:

SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

SlayerOfGods

Galan

Polygon said:

SlayerOfGods said:

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SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

I think you're a bit confused.

Petrify reduces the amount of power your opponent gains while they're stunned.

Each Rank on a Champion beyond 1 increases their base Combat Power Rate by 5%, with Rank 1 being at +0% and Rank 5 being at +20%. (Note that 7-Stars are actually different, in that they're always at the +20% from Rank 1, and do not increase).

TL;DR: Petrify will prevent the opponent from gaining too much Power, and Rank 3 or higher will give CGR enough Power to pull off the Rotation. They're two different elements that enable the Rotation to work - one decreases the opponents Power while the other increases CGR's.

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SlayerOfGods said:

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SlayerOfGods said:

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SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

I think you're a bit confused.

Petrify reduces the amount of power your opponent gains while they're stunned.

Each Rank on a Champion beyond 1 increases their base Combat Power Rate by 5%, with Rank 1 being at +0% and Rank 5 being at +20%. (Note that 7-Stars are actually different, in that they're always at the +20% from Rank 1, and do not increase).

TL;DR: Petrify will prevent the opponent from gaining too much Power, and Rank 3 or higher will give CGR enough Power to pull off the Rotation. They're two different elements that enable the Rotation to work - one decreases the opponents Power while the other increases CGR's.

On a separate topic, I think one of the biggest Achilles heel for CGR is that he requires a specific play-style and due to the last couple metas we had in BGs he’s been benched more often than he was in like early or middle of 2023.

Like for example if theres a node that limits you from doing 5 hit combos (for instance mix master) but that ones a bit more extreme.

If its something where you can’t really stun them , but you want to either cause theres ebb/flow knockdown or for his aptitude , does his heavy have long enough reach for heavy countering?

I could be overlooking certain things if his playstyle can be maneuvered to accommodate various BGs nodes

GrO_ot78

Galan

If you can keep CGR to an sp1, he’s easy to fight…and he dosn’t realy need the extra damage, he’s OP 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥

If you don’t know how to fight Galan, you’re in for a surprise or 2…he got the nuclear option to, but it takes more time. So i would ascend Galan to make his sp1 do more damage, and possible be a fast nuclear option on attack in BG.

SlayerOfGods

Galan

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If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

I think you're a bit confused.

Petrify reduces the amount of power your opponent gains while they're stunned.

Each Rank on a Champion beyond 1 increases their base Combat Power Rate by 5%, with Rank 1 being at +0% and Rank 5 being at +20%. (Note that 7-Stars are actually different, in that they're always at the +20% from Rank 1, and do not increase).

TL;DR: Petrify will prevent the opponent from gaining too much Power, and Rank 3 or higher will give CGR enough Power to pull off the Rotation. They're two different elements that enable the Rotation to work - one decreases the opponents Power while the other increases CGR's.

I think one of the biggest Achilles heel for CGR is that he requires a specific play-style and due to the last couple metas we had in BGs he’s been benched more often than he was in like early or middle of 2023.

Yeah. That's true for a lot of Champs, though. The 5 hit combos and reliance on Parry can definitely make him rigid, but I was using him just fine last BG meta. From what I see, newer/less experienced CGR users tend to use him in ways that are quite limiting. Dexing isn't always a bad thing, and he has a Special 1 and Special 3!

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SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

I think you're a bit confused.

Petrify reduces the amount of power your opponent gains while they're stunned.

Each Rank on a Champion beyond 1 increases their base Combat Power Rate by 5%, with Rank 1 being at +0% and Rank 5 being at +20%. (Note that 7-Stars are actually different, in that they're always at the +20% from Rank 1, and do not increase).

TL;DR: Petrify will prevent the opponent from gaining too much Power, and Rank 3 or higher will give CGR enough Power to pull off the Rotation. They're two different elements that enable the Rotation to work - one decreases the opponents Power while the other increases CGR's.

If its something where you can’t really stun them , but you want to either cause theres ebb/flow knockdown or for his aptitude , does his heavy have long enough reach for heavy countering?

Yeah.

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SlayerOfGods said:

If your CGR is Rank 5 then you have no big reason to Ascend him, currently, imo.

I have 0 in petrify , correct me if i'm wrong but CGR needs at least r4 with 1 in petrify or r5 to pull off the heavy into power gain into vigilance rotation without them being at a bar of power?

Rank 3 or higher and I believe it's one point in Petrify.

So what about rank 4 or rank 5 with 0 points?

I think you're a bit confused.

Petrify reduces the amount of power your opponent gains while they're stunned.

Each Rank on a Champion beyond 1 increases their base Combat Power Rate by 5%, with Rank 1 being at +0% and Rank 5 being at +20%. (Note that 7-Stars are actually different, in that they're always at the +20% from Rank 1, and do not increase).

TL;DR: Petrify will prevent the opponent from gaining too much Power, and Rank 3 or higher will give CGR enough Power to pull off the Rotation. They're two different elements that enable the Rotation to work - one decreases the opponents Power while the other increases CGR's.

Like for example if theres a node that limits you from doing 5 hit combos (for instance mix master) but that ones a bit more extreme.

CGR actually can take on Mix Master and Tunnel Vision. You just need to Parry at the beginning of your string and alternate your combos.

For Tunnel Vision, I usually do:
Parry then Heavy,
Parry then LLMLM
Then MLLLL for Power Gain then Sp2

Mix Master, I'm pretty sure you can still Parry and alternate LLMLM and LLLML to get your Judgements and you'll be just fine.

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GrO_ot78 said:

If you can keep CGR to an sp1, he’s easy to fight…and he dosn’t realy need the extra damage, he’s OP 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥

I don’t think this applies anymore as we have r2 and r3 level defenders as well as ascended r5. Champs like KM and Korg have insane crit resistance and extremely tanky as 7 stars. Not to mention CGR would be more effective against defenders like Fury/Maestro/Photon/Bullseye and Onslaught than Galan. Also, Hulkling already covers most of Galans matchups

SlayerOfGods

Galan

Currently, I think R5 Unascended CGR or R4 Ascended CGR is more than enough.

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SlayerOfGods said:

Currently, I think R5 Unascended CGR or R4 Ascended CGR is more than enough.

Do you think the added combat power rate from r5
over r4 makes a noticeable difference for him in BGs?

It’s probably more important for him than for Galan to say the least

captain_rogers

Galan

Using galan and nuking those FAMs has always been my favourite part in bgs.

Prismane1269

Galan

Galan, since he’s viable for more matchups than cgr. Ascended cgr would be overkill imo

Prismane1269

Galan

captain_rogers said:

Using galan and nuking those FAMs has always been my favourite part in bgs.

How would galan even work that good against an awakened fam? Galan can nuke any Unduped fam but Dmg reduction from Fam’s awaken ability doesn’t let galan do that against a duped Fam