Vox is a great Maestro counter

ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
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Ever since Necropolis was released, it seems like everyone I meet in Battlegrounds has a really annoying Maestro ranked up. And I get it, he's annoying to fight. Mine's ranked up too.

However, ever since then, I've been trying to figure out good counters for him. One of the best ones I've found is Vox. Since Vox's Corrupted Buffs have increased ability accuracy, they don't care that you quickly start glancing all the time when fighting Maestro. When glancing, your ability accuracy is reduced by 100%, but since Vox's Corrupted Buffs have 300% ability accuracy, they still trigger every time you try to activate one. Then you're free to use special attacks in order to inflict a ton of Degen damage since the glancing only affects basic attacks.

The fight below was a little tricky but I ultimately walked away with almost a full bar of health.

https://youtu.be/dIFsoSRCbJw

Just in case anyone needs another counter for Maestro. If anyone has any other counters for him, please let me know in the comments.

Comments

  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Huh, interesting. Thanks for the tip! I need to try that out. I recently awakened my 7* Venom and have been itching to use him somewhere.
  • RuwqiersaRuwqiersa Member Posts: 714 ★★★
    Hood **** on maestro too
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,594 ★★★★★
    Mojo F him out. His buffs will quickly expire and sp2 for tons of degen damage. I'm able to destroy maestro at 100% health every time.

    Chavez is also useful with her heavy chain helps you knock him down quickly and her specials do a lot of damage against maestro.
  • AcidBurn404AcidBurn404 Member Posts: 351 ★★
    edited February 17
    Hey!!! brother nice to know that ur swedish as well! ( i'm from china but my aunt and stepsister are from sweden as well)
    First of all, vox is indeed one of the best maestro counters. If this was a beefier maestro i'd recommend eating that power sting damage at the end and recycle your degens into buffs. Here's some great demonstration of a nice vox vs maestro fight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOL1MDOsVrE
    As for me i'm not a huge grinder nor whale so my account isn't stacked enough to be matched against Maestro accounts in BG ( planning to complete nerco in 2025 ), but ive been matched against a 6*R4 ( equivalent to the one in the video) and my r4 ascended absorbing man did quite well, finished with a high health total, power sting victory track. he should be a good counter.（ abs man form pause isn't affected by AAR ) also his main damge is from specials. however do watch out for ur morph charge consumption. do it when he doesn't have glance.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 832 ★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.

    The degen duration hack isn't supposed to work on him, and is probably going to be patched at some point here.
  • GrO_ot78GrO_ot78 Member Posts: 688 ★★★


    Dman is pretty good to 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Ortoun said:

    Ercarret said:

    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.

    The degen duration hack isn't supposed to work on him, and is probably going to be patched at some point here.
    I can see how that would be a bug and how it could possibly have unintended ripple effects on other areas of the game, but I would nonetheless be very sad if they patched it. It makes Vox a ton of fun in Incursions.
  • TheShinyDomeTheShinyDome Member Posts: 185 ★★
    Ercarret said:

    Huh, interesting. Thanks for the tip! I need to try that out. I recently awakened my 7* Venom and have been itching to use him somewhere.

    I use him so much. He works for all kinds of matchups. Hulking, maestro, thing, killmonger, havok, any spider character. So versatile and fun.

    Heavies to reroll your buffs if you need something specific for a fight, and to apply armor break. Sp1s to handle buffs. I took mine to r3 and have no regrets.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,582 ★★★★★
    GrO_ot78 said:



    Dman is pretty good to 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥

    How'd you do that? 19 seconds and 93k points?
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Awesome! I have a 1-2 gem that's been gathering dust ever since Road to the Crypt ended. I've been holding on to it in case I get Onslaught from my next Titan crystal, but Venom is a strong r2 candidate if I don't get him.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 832 ★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    Ortoun said:

    Ercarret said:

    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.

    The degen duration hack isn't supposed to work on him, and is probably going to be patched at some point here.
    I can see how that would be a bug and how it could possibly have unintended ripple effects on other areas of the game, but I would nonetheless be very sad if they patched it. It makes Vox a ton of fun in Incursions.
    It's the flip side of them fixing champs like rogue and groot that have decreased debuff duration not having the degens last their full duration. Nothing is supposed to affect their duration aside from his own abilities.
  • Viper198787Viper198787 Member Posts: 597 ★★★★
    I’m glad that more people are starting to get their hands on Vox and notice his worth. He was my first R3 and I never regretted it. He’s fantastic. I’ve also soloed a 7* Onslaught boss in war with him (almost twice, 2nd one I got to 3% because I was rushing). He doesn’t require as much hitting the opponent as once he gets to just under 2 bars. You just throw the L1 and the degen does a lot of the damage. He is a great counter to FAM, Peni, Guardian, and Shocker, too. He can also counter some miss champs like Mysterio and Prof X. He just has a lot of great tools.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Yeah, I was lucky enough to pull him really early from one of his featured crystals just as he launched. I didn't have any rank-up resources available to me at the time, but I took him to rank 3 when I completed Necropolis for the first time. It's been a couple of rough seasons of Battlegrounds where he hasn't been useful but luckily he's a beast this time and hopefully going forward for a bit.
  • Viper198787Viper198787 Member Posts: 597 ★★★★
    He was really good in the safeguard meta last season. I think people know he’s good as he gets banned more than Onslaught, Domino, and Kate.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,915 ★★★★★
    Viper198787 said:

    He was really good in the safeguard meta last season. I think people know he’s good as he gets banned more than Onslaught, Domino, and Kate.

    I was pretty much chilling in the Victory Track last season. He didn't work there because of the Polka Dot Power node. But I can see how he could have worked well in the GC. I just reached it right at the end of the season so I didn't play that many fights in there.
  • Thokk150Thokk150 Member Posts: 92 ★
    willrun4adonut said:

    GrO_ot78 said:



    Dman is pretty good to 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥

    How'd you do that? 19 seconds and 93k points?
    It's arena
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,254 ★★★★★
    I saw someone use Ebony Maw extremely effective and i'm wondering ... how/?? lol
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Member Posts: 2,182 ★★★★
    @captain_rogers does Mojo need to be awakened to be a good counter for him?
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,594 ★★★★★
    Oakenshield said:

    @captain_rogers does Mojo need to be awakened to be a good counter for him?

    For bgs, mojo's awakened ability is irrelevant.
    And nah he don't need to be awakened to counter Maestro.

    But in questing and alliance contents, If you actually want to use mojo for any fight, You would want him to be awakened.
  • NightheartNightheart Member Posts: 2,117 ★★★★
    I tried symbiote supreme he melts him
  • OakenshieldOakenshield Member Posts: 2,182 ★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Oakenshield said:

    @captain_rogers does Mojo need to be awakened to be a good counter for him?

    For bgs, mojo's awakened ability is irrelevant.
    And nah he don't need to be awakened to counter Maestro.

    But in questing and alliance contents, If you actually want to use mojo for any fight, You would want him to be awakened.
    Great thanks @captain_rogers . I just pulled him out of the 7* Romance gem the other day but didn’t have him as a 5 or 6* so don’t know much about him. Hopefully I’ll dup him with the Valiant calendar gem in a couple of weeks, but good to know is he is already good to go for BGs.
  • Real_Madrid_76_2Real_Madrid_76_2 Member Posts: 3,560 ★★★★★
    Try titania
  • Viper198787Viper198787 Member Posts: 597 ★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    Viper198787 said:

    He was really good in the safeguard meta last season. I think people know he’s good as he gets banned more than Onslaught, Domino, and Kate.

    I was pretty much chilling in the Victory Track last season. He didn't work there because of the Polka Dot Power node. But I can see how he could have worked well in the GC. I just reached it right at the end of the season so I didn't play that many fights in there.
    That was the first two weeks. Second two weeks was safeguard. I’m assuming that’s where the disagrees on my post were for.
  • AcidBurn404AcidBurn404 Member Posts: 351 ★★
    Ortoun said:

    Ercarret said:

    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.

    The degen duration hack isn't supposed to work on him, and is probably going to be patched at some point here.
    Bruh did you guys even read vox's entire kit??? His degens are a fixed duration and it's not supposed to be manipulated by nodes or hacks......
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 832 ★★★★
    AcidBurn404 said:

    Ortoun said:

    Ercarret said:

    Hahahaha! I watched the vid and was like, wow, cool, I'm gonna leave a like. Turns out, I already had. Must have seen it a while back, completely forgotten about it and then done basically the exakt same video.

    If you like Vox, I can also recommend using him in Incursions. I'm not a huge fan of that mode myself but Vox is always fun to bring whenever I do play it. You can build some really interesting things around him. Increased degen duration, increased potency, inflicting the opponent with armor breaks whenever you inflict them with a damaging debuff, gaining fury buffs whenever you inflict them with non-damaging debuffs... It all just stacks up into an immensely powerful whole.

    Thanks for the Abs Man suggestion, I'll keep that in mind.

    Also, always fun to meet another Swede (or Swede-adjecent, as it may be). Not many of us about, haha.

    The degen duration hack isn't supposed to work on him, and is probably going to be patched at some point here.
    Bruh did you guys even read vox's entire kit??? His degens are a fixed duration and it's not supposed to be manipulated by nodes or hacks......
    Not sure what I said that disagrees with that. The hack isn't supposed to work but did(maybe still does if they haven't fixed it yet) was a thread on her about it a bit ago. Was mainly because rogue and groot were shortening them.
  • AcidBurn404AcidBurn404 Member Posts: 351 ★★
    @Ortoun sorry read ur post too fast
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,582 ★★★★★
    Thokk150 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    GrO_ot78 said:



    Dman is pretty good to 🧨💥🔥🔥🔥

    How'd you do that? 19 seconds and 93k points?
    It's arena
    Thank you. I was wondering if I was missing some key new thing in BGs.
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