Necro Team Composition

CyborgNinja135

Hello everyone. I plan on doing my first Necro run within the next 2 months. I plan on taking the Titania path that jumps to Guardian on the portal.

I have an Aegon that should be R5 ascended sig 200 by then, who will be the main clearer, a R4 ascended Wong for fights that might problematic for Aegon, and a R5 ascended Abs Man to take Air Walker and Aarkus because I don't feel comfortable taking those fights with Wong. Will these 3 be enough to clear the path? I was thinking of bringing a 6* R3 Juggs for the final GM phase. Are there any others I should include in this team or anyone I should replace? Any advice is appreciated.

Crcrcrc

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

ReignkingTW

That and take proxima instead of wong. Not sure why you need wong.

CyborgNinja135

Crcrcrc said:

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

Yes I had forgotten about Heimdall. He'll certainly be a nice safety net. Thanks!

CyborgNinja135

ReignkingTW said:

That and take proxima instead of wong. Not sure why you need wong.

I was thinking of bringing Wong because of certain fights that might be too annoying to take with Aegon like Cap Britain, but now that I think about it, Abs Man could probably take that one instead, and it would free up a Spot for someone like Heimdall. Thanks!

MarvelNoob

Crcrcrc said:

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

Aegon works just fine for airwalker, so doom is kind of just a waste of space, especially if you run cides for aegon

Crcrcrc

MarvelNoob said:

Crcrcrc said:

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

Aegon works just fine for airwalker, so doom is kind of just a waste of space, especially if you run cides for aegon

I soloed him with doom though, it's not like you're wasting a slot by having him.

captain_rogers

MarvelNoob said:

Crcrcrc said:

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

Aegon works just fine for airwalker, so doom is kind of just a waste of space, especially if you run cides for aegon

I used 20 revives using Aegon against air walker, my costliest fight in necropolis.

Doom makes your life easier.

captain_rogers

Crcrcrc said:

MarvelNoob said:

Crcrcrc said:

I would take aegon, doom for airwalker (easiest fight of my life), and definitely juggs for gm. Aside from that I’d recommend heimdall and wong if you feel like he’ll be useful. Aarkus isn’t too bad with aegon it’s just a little awkward.

Aegon works just fine for airwalker, so doom is kind of just a waste of space, especially if you run cides for aegon

I soloed him with doom though, it's not like you're wasting a slot by having him.

Exactly. I used doom for wiccan and cap britain as well.

captain_rogers

@CyborgNinja135
Take aegon doom reverse control prox heimdall
They can handle everything in that path.

CyborgNinja135

captain_rogers said:

@CyborgNinja135
Take aegon doom reverse control prox heimdall
They can handle everything in that path.

My Doom is only R4, will that still be enough?

captain_rogers

CyborgNinja135 said:

captain_rogers said:

@CyborgNinja135
Take aegon doom reverse control prox heimdall
They can handle everything in that path.

My Doom is only R4, will that still be enough?

Ascend him if you are able to, but still he will work with boosts
Just turn of suicides

CyborgNinja135

captain_rogers said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

captain_rogers said:

@CyborgNinja135
Take aegon doom reverse control prox heimdall
They can handle everything in that path.

My Doom is only R4, will that still be enough?

Ascend him if you are able to, but still he will work with boosts
Just turn of suicides

Perfect. I don't even have suicides unlocked so that's not a problem for me lol

captain_rogers

Yeah.

Good luck for your run @CyborgNinja135

Ercarret

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

ReignkingTW

Put it this way.

Aegon can do airwalker and cap brit, but AW is worse. Much worse. You'll get the hang of the CB fight.

CyborgNinja135

Ercarret said:

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

For now I only intend to do a single run and get the completion rewards. I managed to take off a huge chunk from Aarkus using Abs Man during a practice run so it shouldn't be too bad to deal with as long as the AI cooperates. I've seen Abs Man solo Air Walker with boosts so I am confident I can replicate it. My biggest worry is just getting through the first half of the path since there are some fights that seem troublesome like Cap Britain, Wiccan and Psychoman. After that the only one that could be a problem would be Nova but he doesn't seem as bad as the others. Do you reckon it would be worth it to unlock the recoil tree even if I am just doing completion atm?

Crcrcrc

CyborgNinja135 said:

Ercarret said:

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

For now I only intend to do a single run and get the completion rewards. I managed to take off a huge chunk from Aarkus using Abs Man during a practice run so it shouldn't be too bad to deal with as long as the AI cooperates. I've seen Abs Man solo Air Walker with boosts so I am confident I can replicate it. My biggest worry is just getting through the first half of the path since there are some fights that seem troublesome like Cap Britain, Wiccan and Psychoman. After that the only one that could be a problem would be Nova but he doesn't seem as bad as the others. Do you reckon it would be worth it to unlock the recoil tree even if I am just doing completion atm?

I did my run with aegon with no suicides, all in all it cost me about 60 revives total and I definitely could have chopped off like 10-15 with skill. They’re not super necessary for completion

CyborgNinja135

Crcrcrc said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Ercarret said:

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

For now I only intend to do a single run and get the completion rewards. I managed to take off a huge chunk from Aarkus using Abs Man during a practice run so it shouldn't be too bad to deal with as long as the AI cooperates. I've seen Abs Man solo Air Walker with boosts so I am confident I can replicate it. My biggest worry is just getting through the first half of the path since there are some fights that seem troublesome like Cap Britain, Wiccan and Psychoman. After that the only one that could be a problem would be Nova but he doesn't seem as bad as the others. Do you reckon it would be worth it to unlock the recoil tree even if I am just doing completion atm?

I did my run with aegon with no suicides, all in all it cost me about 60 revives total and I definitely could have chopped off like 10-15 with skill. They’re not super necessary for completion

Nice. I hope the amount of revives spent during my run is around a similar number. I plan to brute force a lot of the path with Aegon. Does he have any weird interactions with Wiccan's neutralize?

Crcrcrc

CyborgNinja135 said:

Crcrcrc said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

Ercarret said:

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

For now I only intend to do a single run and get the completion rewards. I managed to take off a huge chunk from Aarkus using Abs Man during a practice run so it shouldn't be too bad to deal with as long as the AI cooperates. I've seen Abs Man solo Air Walker with boosts so I am confident I can replicate it. My biggest worry is just getting through the first half of the path since there are some fights that seem troublesome like Cap Britain, Wiccan and Psychoman. After that the only one that could be a problem would be Nova but he doesn't seem as bad as the others. Do you reckon it would be worth it to unlock the recoil tree even if I am just doing completion atm?

I did my run with aegon with no suicides, all in all it cost me about 60 revives total and I definitely could have chopped off like 10-15 with skill. They’re not super necessary for completion

Nice. I hope the amount of revives spent during my run is around a similar number. I plan to brute force a lot of the path with Aegon. Does he have any weird interactions with Wiccan's neutralize?

Not that I noticed, that one I kind of just blitzed though bc I heard bad things about it.

The big thing is that once you have unstoppable on crit active, you can let them hit you mid combo and use it as a combo extender to keep the furies up without the heavy. That gives so much more uptime.

captain_rogers

Using doom you can handle cap britain (no special so no reverse controls), Wiccan (There is a technique to deal wiccan with Doom, I used him for wiccan in two runs)
You can also take both abs man and doom if you want to, remove proxima, Proxima is good to have, but not necessary.

Ercarret

CyborgNinja135 said:

Ercarret said:

Do you just plan on doing a single Necro run in order to get the completion rewards or do you plan on exploring it as well? If you just plan on doing a single run you might save some units by just buying revives instead of unlocking the recoil tree, but if you plan on exploring the whole thing, I wholeheartedly recommend that you unlock the recoil masteries. I've done runs both with and without recoils on and there's a massive difference in how well Aegon performs. He's so much quicker with them on, it's absurd. I did one run without them on since I relied heavily on some other champions as well who don't do as well with them (especially since the Willpower mastery is nerfed into the ground in Necro), and the difference was so very stark. Aegon felt really slow and that run cost me a bunch of extra revives.

As for the actual team composition, this is how mine looked like when I took the path you're thinking of taking:

Aegon
Nick Fury (just KO him immediately for the extra 20% attack)
Heimdall for the safety net (super valuable support)
Proxima for the combo shield (also super valuable support)
Wiccan (but any champion immune to reverse controls works)

You can easily swap Nick for Abs Man if you want. I haven't used Abs in Necro so I can't say how well he performs, but I reckon he'll do well in the two fights you suggest. Aarkus was a pain with a not-yet-built-up Aegon and Airwalker is a pain until you learn how he works. By the third run, I had learned how to counter him so I had a super solid run with Aegon and took off maybe 60% in one go. The problem is that, as soon as you die and Airwalker starts gaining his charges, things quickly become more and more uncontrollable. So I can see how having a better and more direct counter might be valuable.

For now I only intend to do a single run and get the completion rewards. I managed to take off a huge chunk from Aarkus using Abs Man during a practice run so it shouldn't be too bad to deal with as long as the AI cooperates. I've seen Abs Man solo Air Walker with boosts so I am confident I can replicate it. My biggest worry is just getting through the first half of the path since there are some fights that seem troublesome like Cap Britain, Wiccan and Psychoman. After that the only one that could be a problem would be Nova but he doesn't seem as bad as the others. Do you reckon it would be worth it to unlock the recoil tree even if I am just doing completion atm?

No, for a single run you're better of saving those units for revives in case you need them. Unlocking the recoil tree costs something like 3000-4000 units and that's much more than you'd spend on a single run. However, if you were intending to do a full six runs, it would probably save you a lot. (I do think it's worth unlocking those masteries in general just so that you can use them when the need occasionally arises, but that's another discussion for another day.)

I actually found Captain Britain to be fairly easy to defeat with Aegon. By the time you reach her, he'll purify everything she throws at her and therefore he'll be reverse controlled pretty much all the time. There's very little switching back and forth between normal and reversed control, which is the element I tend to struggle with, so I just played it as a strictly reverse control fight. Since that's the only node (plus the trap node, but that's fairly easy to play around) and she's a pretty easy defender to begin with, I ended up having far fewer problems with her than I've heard other people having.

That said, there are a lot of people who seem to struggle against her with Aegon. While I'm not exactly why that's the case, I don't want to sweep that under the rug by saying that I didn't mind her that much.

Good luck!