Ironheart is underpowered and boring. Change my mind.

Herbal_Taxman

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.

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laserjohn26

Congrats on sig 100

Rayven5220

Check out Simula61's video on her.
She's actually a killer.

ahmynuts

How about instead of us trying to change your mind, you try to convince us of your stance?

JT_Supreme

That’s okay

SirGamesBond

Naww dude, brain transplant is not an option, you are pretty much stuck with the pea brain. Rip

PT_99

Good

JLordVileJ

Do you know how happy I would be if that happened to me?

altavista

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.

The fact that you want Bullseye (primarily a champion you won’t use but just to place on defense) over Iron Heart (a champion you will use) shows a kind of misplaced priority. Even if someone were to sell you on how good Iron Heart is, it still wont do anything for you since you care just about defense.

Caprice88

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.

altavista spoke facts, you have misplaced priorities go watch a bullseye damage rotation and ul see he is a pure defensive champ with some util, while he is great at what he does this game is very complex and u will need a good offense+defense. u say u want onslaught which leads me to think that u see him as a defensive threat since u paired him up with bullseye. well the champ you already have (ironheart) counters onslaught effortlessly.

she is not a new beyond god tier but she is up there, be happy with what u got broski it aint that bad at the end of the day :]

Herbal_Taxman

Misplaced priorities… Probably a question of progression. I don’t need another average tech champ who does several things okay but does nothing to an exceptional or unique level.

I admittedly am tired of timer-based, build up a bunch of debuffs and cash out champs. Feels like a design dead-end at this point.

Interestingly enough, not a single comment on why you all actually like her.

EdisonLaw

She's actually quite good, however her utility is still quite average in the tech class. Tracking, prowess removal, DOT, etc. Like the only unique thing about her is her pre fight to change from incinerate to rupture.

mbrace

She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

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Herbal_Taxman

Speak on it, bro. That’s helpful, thx.

Terminatrix

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.

I got all 3 😁 Don't sleep on iheart.

SecondSkriller

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.
The fact that you want Bullseye (primarily a champion you won’t use but just to place on defense) over Iron Heart (a champion you will use) shows a kind of misplaced priority. Even if someone were to sell you on how good Iron Heart is, it still wont do anything for you since you care just about defense.

Someone’s underestimating Bullseye on offense…

PT_99

You got the wrong number but congrats

PT_99

Please. I can’t pull Bullseye or Onslaught for the life of me, but my Ironheart is like sig 100.
I got all 3 😁 Don't sleep on iheart.

You got the wrong number but congrats

Supersha7

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.

She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

Supersha7

Oh wait. She can handle his sp2 reverse control if she has armor up. So..one thing?

captain_rogers

@Supersha7 She can also parry non contact hits.can apply ruptures for damage. Onslaught cannot apply duanter since his ability accuracy is reduced when hitting into ironheart block

Not the best onslaught counter cuz you still can't purify his neuroshocks.

Lokx

She's actually quite good, however her utility is still quite average in the tech class. Tracking, prowess removal, DOT, etc. Like the only unique thing about her is her pre fight to change from incinerate to rupture.

Only tech champ with immune reverse control. Incinerate to rapture is also an amazing utility because you literally change her from an energy attacker to a physical attacker. With despair mastery her dot counters some heals. She can parry non contact. Reduces ability accuracy by 100% when hit through block, immune to incinerate, coldsnap, frostbite.

I would say the reduced ability accuracy on blocked hits + immunity to reverse control and energy to physical damage makes her unique in her own right. Also her tracking ability is easy to maintain and can stay for the entire fight.

Pandingo

She stronk

Lokx

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.
She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

She can prevent daunted. You need to have the tracking passive on him to reduce ability accuracy and parry non contact. Once you have that you can parry without gaining daunted.

Magrailothos

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.
She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

She actually does counter several of his abilities. However, he's a slightly unique Mutant (like Red Magneto is, too) designed to resist being countered, in return.

To be honest, I'd be surprised to see a full counter to Onslaught very soon.

Ironheart can bypass his Incinerate resistance by switching to Rupture debuffs. Notably, Onslaught has negative physical resistance, so they'll do more damage than usual.

She can't parry him at the start of the match; but once she's got Tracking up (six debuffs) she can Parry freely without collecting Daunted debuffs. So that just needs a little work, but is easy to maintain.

If you need to block his SP1 (and haven't been practicing like crazy to dodge it in SoS), she'll reduce Onslaught's Neuroshocks/Organic Magnetism through block by half (he has 150% chance to Inflict them, which she reduces by 100%, leaving him a 50% chance).

If she blocks a few hits in that way, as long as she's not Daunted, she can Willpower heal from Magnetism debuffs, to offset Neuroshock damage.

As long as she's got Armour (which Onslaught can't remove, except via a Quest node), she can ignore the reversed controls on his SP2.

As for the rest of the utility you can get out of her, here's Simula's video:

https://youtu.be/FahvcjMwD7Q?si=rtZftz39P7VHdMuu

EdisonLaw

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.
She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

She’s meant to be an alright onslaught counter. Yes she’s metal, and cannot prevent the Crushed but she can parry non contacts and can change her damage from incinerate to rupture. It’s not like how IDoom destroys Bishop

BeastDad

She should have been designed as a true hard counter for Onslaught.

She falls into the good category but not elite camp.

Terminatrix

She should have been designed as a true hard counter for Onslaught.

She falls into the good category but not elite camp.

Her being a true hard counter would have been a game changer!

ThePredator1001

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.
She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

She actually does counter several of his abilities. However, he's a slightly unique Mutant (like Red Magneto is, too) designed to resist being countered, in return.

To be honest, I'd be surprised to see a full counter to Onslaught very soon.

Ironheart can bypass his Incinerate resistance by switching to Rupture debuffs. Notably, Onslaught has negative physical resistance, so they'll do more damage than usual.

She can't parry him at the start of the match; but once she's got Tracking up (six debuffs) she can Parry freely without collecting Daunted debuffs. So that just needs a little work, but is easy to maintain.

If you need to block his SP1 (and haven't been practicing like crazy to dodge it in SoS), she'll reduce Onslaught's Neuroshocks/Organic Magnetism through block by half (he has 150% chance to Inflict them, which she reduces by 100%, leaving him a 50% chance).

If she blocks a few hits in that way, as long as she's not Daunted, she can Willpower heal from Magnetism debuffs, to offset Neuroshock damage.

As long as she's got Armour (which Onslaught can't remove, except via a Quest node), she can ignore the reversed controls on his SP2.

As for the rest of the utility you can get out of her, here's Simula's video:
https://youtu.be/FahvcjMwD7Q?si=rtZftz39P7VHdMuu

She is a great counter for Onslaught but I still think the match up is bugged, she’s supposed to reduce offensive ability accuracy for mutants by 150% which should perfectly shut down onslaughts sp1 but for some reason it doesn’t work that way. I made a post about it but Kabam never responded to it.

Terminatrix

Am I missing something.?

How does she counter onslaught?

She can’t remove neuroshock because she’s metal
She can’t prevent crushed - you still get hit with unblockable basic attacks when it’s up, despite supposedly 150% aa reduction.
She can’t prevent daunted.

That’s most of the annoying stuff that onslaught does. And she can’t handle any of it.
She’s the only tech that can keep incinerate up indefinitely and therefore can get pauses from the Sentinel relic at all times. Don’t tell me that OS does this, because the incinerates take a while to put on, don’t last long, and are often plasmas instead. As for utility: incinerate and coldsnap immune, reverse controls immune, parries non-contact hits, first medium doesn’t make contact and cannot be evaded (like IMIW), easy heal block with despair, blocks unblockable specials from mutants, reliably counters miss, is very tanky, removes prowess, switches to rupture so that nobody can be fully immune to her, and counters Photon, Korg, Dust, and Onslaught. Combine this with her crazy damage, and she’s a fantastic tech champ.

She actually does counter several of his abilities. However, he's a slightly unique Mutant (like Red Magneto is, too) designed to resist being countered, in return.

To be honest, I'd be surprised to see a full counter to Onslaught very soon.

Ironheart can bypass his Incinerate resistance by switching to Rupture debuffs. Notably, Onslaught has negative physical resistance, so they'll do more damage than usual.

She can't parry him at the start of the match; but once she's got Tracking up (six debuffs) she can Parry freely without collecting Daunted debuffs. So that just needs a little work, but is easy to maintain.

If you need to block his SP1 (and haven't been practicing like crazy to dodge it in SoS), she'll reduce Onslaught's Neuroshocks/Organic Magnetism through block by half (he has 150% chance to Inflict them, which she reduces by 100%, leaving him a 50% chance).

If she blocks a few hits in that way, as long as she's not Daunted, she can Willpower heal from Magnetism debuffs, to offset Neuroshock damage.

As long as she's got Armour (which Onslaught can't remove, except via a Quest node), she can ignore the reversed controls on his SP2.

As for the rest of the utility you can get out of her, here's Simula's video:
https://youtu.be/FahvcjMwD7Q?si=rtZftz39P7VHdMuu
She is a great counter for Onslaught but I still think the match up is bugged, she’s supposed to reduce offensive ability accuracy for mutants by 150% which should perfectly shut down onslaughts sp1 but for some reason it doesn’t work that way. I made a post about it but Kabam never responded to it.

That's the confusing, ongoing circle of the Catch 22 conflict between Magneto, Onslaught, and Ironheart. She is supposed to reduce their abilities, but she's metal and they control metal champs by reducing THEIR abilities.