Kabam!!? How will negasonic counter Bullseye?

PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,764 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
edited May 5 in General Discussion
How is negasonic mutant supposed to counter bullseye on stun immune nodes and biohazard, as that's his main place in war anyways πŸ’€
If he won't be stunned, it'll basically mean both of them will attempt to counter-attack, giving both of them enough time to react and AI these days is on roids so it WILL use special-1 right away.
Biohazard is self explanatory.






There are some interactions as well which can be pointed out by other players to already strategies to counter her before even release πŸ₯΄

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  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,764 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Also Kabam can easily introduce "NEW" stunning reflection which will be disabled when enemy is affected with shock and bleed instead to completely **** on Negasonic easily.


  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.

    She be a xmagica i would believe so she can stack prowess then use her evade on counter attacks for war but depends how her abilities work on nodes he gets put on like stun immune
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Isn’t she broken enough for you???
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Bendy said:

    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.

    She be a xmagica i would believe so she can stack prowess then use her evade on counter attacks for war but depends how her abilities work on nodes he gets put on like stun immune
    I think there wasn't any empty spaces on saga chart, so I doubt whether she bs saga or not
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited May 5

    Bendy said:

    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.

    She be a xmagica i would believe so she can stack prowess then use her evade on counter attacks for war but depends how her abilities work on nodes he gets put on like stun immune
    I think there wasn't any empty spaces on saga chart, so I doubt whether she bs saga or not
    There is under mutant it says coming soon


  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,764 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Isn’t she broken enough for you???

    You didn't understood what I was trying to convey but it's okay.

    What I meant was, main thing of Negasonic is that she evades and apply stun to Bullseye to whoop him but this can easily be avoided by placing Bullseye on stun immune nodes and voila no longer a hard counter since both of them will attempt counter attack then immediately after Bullseye will launch sp1 as usual, thanks to AI being 2 step ahead of us as always.

    Plus I'm 100% certain that Kabam will introduce the "Stunning reflection-2" with description of "The shield will go on cooldown when affected with Bleed or shock, instead of fire poison damage"
    Giving Bullseye total 3 free spots on war to place on where Negasonic can't counter him.

    I'm not saying she's any bad but she's also not 100% full counter to bullseye at all. Something to think about.


  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    Isn’t she broken enough for you???

    You didn't understood what I was trying to convey but it's okay.

    What I meant was, main thing of Negasonic is that she evades and apply stun to Bullseye to whoop him but this can easily be avoided by placing Bullseye on stun immune nodes and voila no longer a hard counter since both of them will attempt counter attack then immediately after Bullseye will launch sp1 as usual, thanks to AI being 2 step ahead of us as always.

    Plus I'm 100% certain that Kabam will introduce the "Stunning reflection-2" with description of "The shield will go on cooldown when affected with Bleed or shock, instead of fire poison damage"
    Giving Bullseye total 3 free spots on war to place on where Negasonic can't counter him.

    I'm not saying she's any bad but she's also not 100% full counter to bullseye at all. Something to think about.


    Tbh id be more concerned about alliances banning her
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,764 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Bendy said:

    PT_99 said:

    Isn’t she broken enough for you???

    You didn't understood what I was trying to convey but it's okay.

    What I meant was, main thing of Negasonic is that she evades and apply stun to Bullseye to whoop him but this can easily be avoided by placing Bullseye on stun immune nodes and voila no longer a hard counter since both of them will attempt counter attack then immediately after Bullseye will launch sp1 as usual, thanks to AI being 2 step ahead of us as always.

    Plus I'm 100% certain that Kabam will introduce the "Stunning reflection-2" with description of "The shield will go on cooldown when affected with Bleed or shock, instead of fire poison damage"
    Giving Bullseye total 3 free spots on war to place on where Negasonic can't counter him.

    I'm not saying she's any bad but she's also not 100% full counter to bullseye at all. Something to think about.


    Tbh id be more concerned about alliances banning her
    That's expected of any new hero but when more and more Alliances realises about how Bullseye is safe on stun immune and reflection nodes or even that "One eyed open" node where damage is reflected when stunned. Then he's totally safe and no need to waste ban on Negasonic.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    Bendy said:

    PT_99 said:

    Isn’t she broken enough for you???

    You didn't understood what I was trying to convey but it's okay.

    What I meant was, main thing of Negasonic is that she evades and apply stun to Bullseye to whoop him but this can easily be avoided by placing Bullseye on stun immune nodes and voila no longer a hard counter since both of them will attempt counter attack then immediately after Bullseye will launch sp1 as usual, thanks to AI being 2 step ahead of us as always.

    Plus I'm 100% certain that Kabam will introduce the "Stunning reflection-2" with description of "The shield will go on cooldown when affected with Bleed or shock, instead of fire poison damage"
    Giving Bullseye total 3 free spots on war to place on where Negasonic can't counter him.

    I'm not saying she's any bad but she's also not 100% full counter to bullseye at all. Something to think about.


    Tbh id be more concerned about alliances banning her
    That's expected of any new hero but when more and more Alliances realises about how Bullseye is safe on stun immune and reflection nodes or even that "One eyed open" node where damage is reflected when stunned. Then he's totally safe and no need to waste ban on Negasonic.
    One eyed be a dust fight anyway since shock and bleed then also u could use dust also on stunning reflection but will see what happens when we get our hands on her of course but id probs on stunning reflection and boss node ill probs still use domino
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    Bendy said:

    PT_99 said:

    Isn’t she broken enough for you???

    You didn't understood what I was trying to convey but it's okay.

    What I meant was, main thing of Negasonic is that she evades and apply stun to Bullseye to whoop him but this can easily be avoided by placing Bullseye on stun immune nodes and voila no longer a hard counter since both of them will attempt counter attack then immediately after Bullseye will launch sp1 as usual, thanks to AI being 2 step ahead of us as always.

    Plus I'm 100% certain that Kabam will introduce the "Stunning reflection-2" with description of "The shield will go on cooldown when affected with Bleed or shock, instead of fire poison damage"
    Giving Bullseye total 3 free spots on war to place on where Negasonic can't counter him.

    I'm not saying she's any bad but she's also not 100% full counter to bullseye at all. Something to think about.


    Tbh id be more concerned about alliances banning her
    That's expected of any new hero but when more and more Alliances realises about how Bullseye is safe on stun immune and reflection nodes or even that "One eyed open" node where damage is reflected when stunned. Then he's totally safe and no need to waste ban on Negasonic.
    But yeah do think she was more a counter outside of war than in war since theres a lot of nodes that stop negasonic due to how many dot nodes there is inside of war any of the 5 nodes he can be placed on and she wont counter him
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,020 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.

    She be a xmagica i would believe so she can stack prowess then use her evade on counter attacks for war but depends how her abilities work on nodes he gets put on like stun immune
    I think there wasn't any empty spaces on saga chart, so I doubt whether she bs saga or not
    There is under mutant it says coming soon


    That's really awesome, I'll probably save the x magica gem from next month incrusions for her.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    Bendy said:

    Bendy said:

    She is more of battlegrounds counter rather than war counter. In wars you don't wanna use her anyways since bullseye is a tactic defender.

    She be a xmagica i would believe so she can stack prowess then use her evade on counter attacks for war but depends how her abilities work on nodes he gets put on like stun immune
    I think there wasn't any empty spaces on saga chart, so I doubt whether she bs saga or not
    There is under mutant it says coming soon


    That's really awesome, I'll probably save the x magica gem from next month incrusions for her.
    Same most likely if i can
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,764 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    xLunatiXx said:

    I don't know why the big fuss about it.
    First, why do you expect a champ to fully counter all of a champ abilities AND all possible nodes. That seems broken. It's one or the other, not both. Take Falcon and Thing, are you complaining when Thing is placed on AAR immune ?
    Second, by the time she'll be available to the mass we won't be in this saga anymore and the AW global will be different.


    Because she is Kabam's way to dodge nerfing down Bullseye.
    But she won't quite counter him in places where it matters like war or some fights where Kabam will deliberately apply stun immune nodes on Bullseye to make sure Negasonic won't **** on him.

    Just you wait and watch about upcoming Bullseye announcement stating how he already has a counter so there's no need to balance him outπŸ˜‰
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,438 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    I don't know why the big fuss about it.
    First, why do you expect a champ to fully counter all of a champ abilities AND all possible nodes. That seems broken. It's one or the other, not both. Take Falcon and Thing, are you complaining when Thing is placed on AAR immune ?
    Second, by the time she'll be available to the mass we won't be in this saga anymore and the AW global will be different.


    Because she is Kabam's way to dodge nerfing down Bullseye.
    But she won't quite counter him in places where it matters like war or some fights where Kabam will deliberately apply stun immune nodes on Bullseye to make sure Negasonic won't **** on him.

    Just you wait and watch about upcoming Bullseye announcement stating how he already has a counter so there's no need to balance him outπŸ˜‰
    Yeah that's part of aw defense planning. Finding spots to protect your defenders. Nothing new under the sun.
    Also I don't think bullseye needs to be nerfed.

    Like I said earlier, AW global will end soon ish, negasonic won't be available to most at that time. And bullseye without global has a lot of counters
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    xLunatiXx said:

    PT_99 said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    I don't know why the big fuss about it.
    First, why do you expect a champ to fully counter all of a champ abilities AND all possible nodes. That seems broken. It's one or the other, not both. Take Falcon and Thing, are you complaining when Thing is placed on AAR immune ?
    Second, by the time she'll be available to the mass we won't be in this saga anymore and the AW global will be different.


    Because she is Kabam's way to dodge nerfing down Bullseye.
    But she won't quite counter him in places where it matters like war or some fights where Kabam will deliberately apply stun immune nodes on Bullseye to make sure Negasonic won't **** on him.

    Just you wait and watch about upcoming Bullseye announcement stating how he already has a counter so there's no need to balance him outπŸ˜‰
    Yeah that's part of aw defense planning. Finding spots to protect your defenders. Nothing new under the sun.
    Also I don't think bullseye needs to be nerfed.

    Like I said earlier, AW global will end soon ish, negasonic won't be available to most at that time. And bullseye without global has a lot of counters
    Tbh even without tactic he be a strong defender
  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,438 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Bendy said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    PT_99 said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    I don't know why the big fuss about it.
    First, why do you expect a champ to fully counter all of a champ abilities AND all possible nodes. That seems broken. It's one or the other, not both. Take Falcon and Thing, are you complaining when Thing is placed on AAR immune ?
    Second, by the time she'll be available to the mass we won't be in this saga anymore and the AW global will be different.


    Because she is Kabam's way to dodge nerfing down Bullseye.
    But she won't quite counter him in places where it matters like war or some fights where Kabam will deliberately apply stun immune nodes on Bullseye to make sure Negasonic won't **** on him.

    Just you wait and watch about upcoming Bullseye announcement stating how he already has a counter so there's no need to balance him outπŸ˜‰
    Yeah that's part of aw defense planning. Finding spots to protect your defenders. Nothing new under the sun.
    Also I don't think bullseye needs to be nerfed.

    Like I said earlier, AW global will end soon ish, negasonic won't be available to most at that time. And bullseye without global has a lot of counters
    Tbh even without tactic he be a strong defender
    Strong yes. But with lots of counters. Balanced, as all things should be.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,120 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    xLunatiXx said:

    Bendy said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    PT_99 said:

    xLunatiXx said:

    I don't know why the big fuss about it.
    First, why do you expect a champ to fully counter all of a champ abilities AND all possible nodes. That seems broken. It's one or the other, not both. Take Falcon and Thing, are you complaining when Thing is placed on AAR immune ?
    Second, by the time she'll be available to the mass we won't be in this saga anymore and the AW global will be different.


    Because she is Kabam's way to dodge nerfing down Bullseye.
    But she won't quite counter him in places where it matters like war or some fights where Kabam will deliberately apply stun immune nodes on Bullseye to make sure Negasonic won't **** on him.

    Just you wait and watch about upcoming Bullseye announcement stating how he already has a counter so there's no need to balance him outπŸ˜‰
    Yeah that's part of aw defense planning. Finding spots to protect your defenders. Nothing new under the sun.
    Also I don't think bullseye needs to be nerfed.

    Like I said earlier, AW global will end soon ish, negasonic won't be available to most at that time. And bullseye without global has a lot of counters
    Tbh even without tactic he be a strong defender
    Strong yes. But with lots of counters. Balanced, as all things should be.
    On nodes he gets put i wouldnt really say has lots of counters since he always crits so i wouldnt say lot of counters he has some yes
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