Extremely unfair BG matchmaking

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edited May 2024 in General Discussion
As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,544 ★★★★★
    1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao
  • 1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao

    You find the opponent in 10-15 seconds. The algorithm just randomly selects someone. I don't think it's the right thing
  • As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing it's job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
  • You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
  • 1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao

    You find the opponent in 10-15 seconds. The algorithm just randomly selects someone. I don't think it's the right thing
    That is correct, hence 15-minute queues if you want it to look for and match you with an account your size.

    It is the right thing cause if you get paired up with accounts your size you will get to GC before a lot of Valiants. Why should you get into GC before most Valiants and big accounts when we're all competing for the same rewards? How is that even remotely fair?
    There is a GC for that. And even with same size accounts you need the skill to reach there. I'm okay to play against 4-5m rating players. But 8m+ is too much.
  • You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,081 ★★★★★

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing it's job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I’m curious - in those other games is everyone competing for the same rewards?
  • As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing it's job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I’m curious - in those other games is everyone competing for the same rewards?
    I can't reach Celestial, it has the best rewards. Everyone not competing for the same rewards there. I want to play in diamond 3. I'm not competing with anyone. I just want to play for fun but it's impossible. It's not fun when you match against 3-4x stronger teams. GC is for pros and regular for noobs like me.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing it's job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★

    You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
  • As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,544 ★★★★★

    1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao

    You find the opponent in 10-15 seconds. The algorithm just randomly selects someone. I don't think it's the right thing
    That is correct, hence 15-minute queues if you want it to look for and match you with an account your size.

    It is the right thing cause if you get paired up with accounts your size you will get to GC before a lot of Valiants. Why should you get into GC before most Valiants and big accounts when we're all competing for the same rewards? How is that even remotely fair?
    There is a GC for that. And even with same size accounts you need the skill to reach there. I'm okay to play against 4-5m rating players. But 8m+ is too much.
    One could say the same about fair matchmaking, bronze silver and gold are there for you if you want fair matchmaking.
  • You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
  • 1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao

    You find the opponent in 10-15 seconds. The algorithm just randomly selects someone. I don't think it's the right thing
    That is correct, hence 15-minute queues if you want it to look for and match you with an account your size.

    It is the right thing cause if you get paired up with accounts your size you will get to GC before a lot of Valiants. Why should you get into GC before most Valiants and big accounts when we're all competing for the same rewards? How is that even remotely fair?
    There is a GC for that. And even with same size accounts you need the skill to reach there. I'm okay to play against 4-5m rating players. But 8m+ is too much.
    One could say the same about fair matchmaking, bronze silver, and gold are there for you if you want fair matchmaking.
    Play with a weaker account in gold and see if it's fair or not. It's the same thing. I was facing against paragons when I was a cavalier.
  • JessieSJessieS Member Posts: 1,613 ★★★★★
    At the start it’s always crazy . Wait a few days and it will normalise . Of course then once you reach the higher levels suddenly it becomes insanely unfair as well . Last battlegrounds it was hilarious . I refused to use units and magically I was matched against ONLY crazy opponents . And not a few crazy opponents and a few at my level like usual but only crazy opponents with impossible odds and we are talking 15+ opponents over a period of three days until I wasted all my excess energy . So either I am such an insanely skilled player that no other people at my level were present or there is something very wrong with the matchmaking system. I am a very mediocre player so yeah I believe it’s broken . But oh well we still get nice rewards
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
    Bronze 1 matches with bronze 1. The matchmaking algorithm looks first for decks of similar sizes. If it can't find that, it then goes to anyone in that bracket.

    It's no different than how professional sports that has leagues. The boxing analogy doesn't work because heavyweight boxers restricted to just fighting in their class.

    That's not how BGs works. BGs is more akin to the NFL, MLB or competitive soccer leagues. There are strong teams and there's weak teams.

    In baseball, there are large market teams and small market teams. The large market teams can spend more and have a bigger advantage. But small market teams still have to face them.

    Again, just like your view on Blade, you have a even less of a understanding of BGs.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★

    You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
    I'm at 5.4 with mostly ranked 6 and 7 stars. Almost none of my lower rarity champs are ranked. Yes, it's pretty easy.
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,932 ★★★★★
    I wonder if these threads will ever stop popping up lol
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited May 2024

    You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
    I'm at 5.4 with mostly ranked 6 and 7 stars. Almost none of my lower rarity champs are ranked. Yes, it's pretty easy.
    How's that easy when even the best accounts don't have that rating?

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
    Bronze 1 matches with bronze 1. The matchmaking algorithm looks first for decks of similar sizes. If it can't find that, it then goes to anyone in that bracket.

    It's no different than how professional sports that has leagues. The boxing analogy doesn't work because heavyweight boxers restricted to just fighting in their class.

    That's not how BGs works. BGs is more akin to the NFL, MLB or competitive soccer leagues. There are strong teams and there's weak teams.

    In baseball, there are large market teams and small market teams. The large market teams can spend more and have a bigger advantage. But small market teams still have to face them.

    Again, just like your view on Blade, you have a even less of a understanding of BGs.
    Why are you in every single discussion? Don't you have any other job to do?
    Don't you have some BG matches to lose?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★

    You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
    I'm at 5.4 with mostly ranked 6 and 7 stars. Almost none of my lower rarity champs are ranked. Yes, it's pretty easy.
    How's that easy when even the best accounts don't have that rating?

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
    Bronze 1 matches with bronze 1. The matchmaking algorithm looks first for decks of similar sizes. If it can't find that, it then goes to anyone in that bracket.

    It's no different than how professional sports that has leagues. The boxing analogy doesn't work because heavyweight boxers restricted to just fighting in their class.

    That's not how BGs works. BGs is more akin to the NFL, MLB or competitive soccer leagues. There are strong teams and there's weak teams.

    In baseball, there are large market teams and small market teams. The large market teams can spend more and have a bigger advantage. But small market teams still have to face them.

    Again, just like your view on Blade, you have a even less of a understanding of BGs.
    Why are you in every single discussion? Don't you have any other job to do?
    Don't you have some BG matches to lose?
    You literally were just talking about facing 8+ million accounts and now you're saying it's impossible?
  • You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
    I'm at 5.4 with mostly ranked 6 and 7 stars. Almost none of my lower rarity champs are ranked. Yes, it's pretty easy.
    How's that easy when even the best accounts don't have that rating?

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
    Bronze 1 matches with bronze 1. The matchmaking algorithm looks first for decks of similar sizes. If it can't find that, it then goes to anyone in that bracket.

    It's no different than how professional sports that has leagues. The boxing analogy doesn't work because heavyweight boxers restricted to just fighting in their class.

    That's not how BGs works. BGs is more akin to the NFL, MLB or competitive soccer leagues. There are strong teams and there's weak teams.

    In baseball, there are large market teams and small market teams. The large market teams can spend more and have a bigger advantage. But small market teams still have to face them.

    Again, just like your view on Blade, you have a even less of a understanding of BGs.
    Why are you in every single discussion? Don't you have any other job to do?
    Don't you have some BG matches to lose?
    You literally were just talking about facing 8+ million accounts and now you're saying it's impossible?
    You are saying it's pretty easy to reach 8m. If it's that easy why don't you have a 9m rating team?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,801 ★★★★★
    edited May 2024

    You can tolerate a 4m rated account but not an 8m? There’s not a lot of difference in the decks put together at those levels.

    There is a big difference. 8m rating players have 6-7 R3 champions. It's impossible to compete with them.
    My account is 3.3m with 5 r3 and 12 r2. All an 8m rated account shows is that they’ve been playing for a long time and have ranked up a lot of champs at every level.
    I don't think you can reach 8m with only 6* champions.
    You reach 8 mil by ranking all your champions up. 8 mil represents their entire account roster, not their BGs deck. Git gud.
    Do you think reaching 8m is easy? Not even top whale YouTubers have that much rating.
    I'm at 5.4 with mostly ranked 6 and 7 stars. Almost none of my lower rarity champs are ranked. Yes, it's pretty easy.
    How's that easy when even the best accounts don't have that rating?

    As you know BG is known for terrible matchmaking. I'm a 2.8m rating player but almost all of my last 30-35 matches against 5-6m players.
    I can understand and tolerate a 1-2m rating difference. But how can I match against 8m+ rating players? This is so unfair. If you don't find an opponent with similar power just increase the duration of matchmaking time. I would happily wait 1-2 minutes for that. It's way better than playing against 3-4x powerful opponents



    Matchmaking is doing its job. Welcome to something called "competition". You're complaining about the same thing hundreds of others have done so already but none of you understand the whole point of BGs. It's getting quite ridiculous that these posts still exist.
    It's not competition. It's unfairness. Check the other games. They have a matchmaking system.
    I suggest looking up what competition means. By no means is "fairness" part of that definition.
    So you are saying, new players must match against top players? Heavyweight boxers can't fight against lightweights. It doesn't mean they are not competitive. Facing 30 matches straight against 3-4x stronger opponents isn't competition. It's just bad matchmaking.
    Bronze 1 matches with bronze 1. The matchmaking algorithm looks first for decks of similar sizes. If it can't find that, it then goes to anyone in that bracket.

    It's no different than how professional sports that has leagues. The boxing analogy doesn't work because heavyweight boxers restricted to just fighting in their class.

    That's not how BGs works. BGs is more akin to the NFL, MLB or competitive soccer leagues. There are strong teams and there's weak teams.

    In baseball, there are large market teams and small market teams. The large market teams can spend more and have a bigger advantage. But small market teams still have to face them.

    Again, just like your view on Blade, you have a even less of a understanding of BGs.
    Why are you in every single discussion? Don't you have any other job to do?
    Don't you have some BG matches to lose?
    You literally were just talking about facing 8+ million accounts and now you're saying it's impossible?
    You are saying it's pretty easy to reach 8m. If it's that easy why don't you have a 9m rating team?
    Because I don't want to rank up all of my 2-6*'s to max level. That's how those accounts get a high rating. Which again, means nothing because you're only facing 30 champions and not their whole deck.

    It's pretty amazing to see how you react when you don't have this little echo chamber like you did with your Blade thread. You don't have any counter arguments so you resort to personal attacks and whataboutisms.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,544 ★★★★★
    edited May 2024

    1-2 minutes? You'd be looking at 15 minute queues not 1-2 lmao

    You find the opponent in 10-15 seconds. The algorithm just randomly selects someone. I don't think it's the right thing
    That is correct, hence 15-minute queues if you want it to look for and match you with an account your size.

    It is the right thing cause if you get paired up with accounts your size you will get to GC before a lot of Valiants. Why should you get into GC before most Valiants and big accounts when we're all competing for the same rewards? How is that even remotely fair?
    There is a GC for that. And even with same size accounts you need the skill to reach there. I'm okay to play against 4-5m rating players. But 8m+ is too much.
    One could say the same about fair matchmaking, bronze silver, and gold are there for you if you want fair matchmaking.
    Play with a weaker account in gold and see if it's fair or not. It's the same thing. I was facing against paragons when I was a cavalier.
    Lmao I started in gold a season ago when I took a break, that definitely wasn't the case. At this point you're just lying to convince yourself what you're saying is true.
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