Inhumans is the worst marvel TV show

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  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,378 ★★★★★

    How about we turn this around a little and agree that Daredevil and Punisher are the best Marvel Shows, while Loki and Moon Knight are the best MCU shows.

    I liked MK but I honestly thought the second half fell a little flat. Might be the pacing tbh, thought it was too fast
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,145 ★★★★★
    @Magrailothos

    I do like she hulk, the non traditional chill superhero story. But my complain is, Why she hulk?

    She is a iconic character and I have always wanted to see a powerful independent female superhero, They did captain marvel dirty in MCU, They just gave her god like superpowers without a deep plot. And now they made she hulk a parody film. She hulk felt like some immature k drama in times, with huge emphasis on the character's love life instead of her superpowers.

    As I said earlier, I want a she hulk series where she fight, break opponent's legs, throw them out of window and flaunt her superpowers, Not the average "Gen Z" love story.

    I went with the expectation of having a full episode fight scene between she hulk and titania, Not the villain go down in a hit never to be seen again.
  • Kingering_KingKingering_King Member Posts: 863 ★★★

    How about we turn this around a little and agree that Daredevil and Punisher are the best Marvel Shows, while Loki and Moon Knight are the best MCU shows.

    Oh yeah
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,145 ★★★★★

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    It's very boring and saturated with cringe, underwhelming, and nonsense moments. They deviated entirely too much from the original source material in order to "fit modern times". They made her hate and reject being superpowered. The She-Hulk I knew embraced her powers. The best parts of the ENTIRE series was when she fought in the facility, and when she finally got "angry" and clapped Daredevil lol.

    And Titania???? Wtf was that even? Just horrible.
    And daredevil didn't even fight back, just like titania. Like there's only two fight scenes, and she hulk just Knocked them out in a hit. Too artificial and boring.

    How about we turn this around a little and agree that Daredevil and Punisher are the best Marvel Shows, while Loki and Moon Knight are the best MCU shows.

    Daredevil is little slow to me, especially the second season.

    First and third seasons were fire.

    Punisher was just great
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,235 ★★★★★
    The best part of Inhumans was when it ended.
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    I hate the term woke to describe things (not you here but by people to downplay rep) but she-hulk is just a bad direction for how they wanted to portray a strong woman. Downplaying Banner and stripping what made her so cool in other media was the shows biggest sin. It’s not horrible other than that, but it’s also pretty barebones and disappointing. Marvel isn’t alone in that though, you’re right that Netflix and a lot of other media thinks that a strong character has to be an unrelenting pos
    Well, it is the problem though. “Woke” whatever you determine that term to mean, has ruined most modern entertainment platforms. You guys call me whatever you want (I am none of them), but the general public is sick and tired of these agendas literally being shoved in our face at every turn. Why does it matter? Everyone knows these “non dominant” groups exist are fine with it. Except we have no choice but to have thrown at us. I want to watch a movie without rolling my eyes. I want to watch a new TV show without rolling my eyes. Again, call me what you want, but I just want to be entertained without social agendas.

    Disney is at the forefront of this. Every single thing they do now has this stuff apart of it. The ratings, Disney plus subs (which are down 20% compared to 1 year ago), and box office numbers don’t lie. The general public is over it. Can we not just go back to caring about entertaining and a good story?
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,753 ★★★★★

    @Magrailothos

    I do like she hulk, the non traditional chill superhero story. But my complain is, Why she hulk?

    She is a iconic character and I have always wanted to see a powerful independent female superhero, They did captain marvel dirty in MCU, They just gave her god like superpowers without a deep plot. And now they made she hulk a parody film. She hulk felt like some immature k drama in times, with huge emphasis on the character's love life instead of her superpowers.

    As I said earlier, I want a she hulk series where she fight, break opponent's legs, throw them out of window and flaunt her superpowers, Not the average "Gen Z" love story.

    I went with the expectation of having a full episode fight scene between she hulk and titania, Not the villain go down in a hit never to be seen again.

    Oooohhh I just had this convo with somebody else last week! They damn sure did Captain Marvel DUUUUUUURRRRRTY. Especially in Avengers Endgame 😕
  • Yodabolt21Yodabolt21 Member Posts: 2,592 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    I hate the term woke to describe things (not you here but by people to downplay rep) but she-hulk is just a bad direction for how they wanted to portray a strong woman. Downplaying Banner and stripping what made her so cool in other media was the shows biggest sin. It’s not horrible other than that, but it’s also pretty barebones and disappointing. Marvel isn’t alone in that though, you’re right that Netflix and a lot of other media thinks that a strong character has to be an unrelenting pos
    Well, it is the problem though. “Woke” whatever you determine that term to mean, has ruined most modern entertainment platforms. You guys call me whatever you want (I am none of them), but the general public is sick and tired of these agendas literally being shoved in our face at every turn. Why does it matter? Everyone knows these “non dominant” groups exist are fine with it. Except we have no choice but to have thrown at us. I want to watch a movie without rolling my eyes. I want to watch a new TV show without rolling my eyes. Again, call me what you want, but I just want to be entertained without social agendas.

    Disney is at the forefront of this. Every single thing they do now has this stuff apart of it. The ratings, Disney plus subs (which are down 20% compared to 1 year ago), and box office numbers don’t lie. The general public is over it. Can we not just go back to caring about entertaining and a good story?
    Crazy how the term "woke" gets thrown around for any little thing...
    Crazy that these agendas have made it that way. And I am sorry if the term woke offends anyone, that is not my intention. However, the literal definition of “wokeism” is being sensitive to perceived social or political injustice. It is exactly everything the media twists and turns into today. So yeah, woke is overplayed, but by everyone.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,753 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    I hate the term woke to describe things (not you here but by people to downplay rep) but she-hulk is just a bad direction for how they wanted to portray a strong woman. Downplaying Banner and stripping what made her so cool in other media was the shows biggest sin. It’s not horrible other than that, but it’s also pretty barebones and disappointing. Marvel isn’t alone in that though, you’re right that Netflix and a lot of other media thinks that a strong character has to be an unrelenting pos
    Well, it is the problem though. “Woke” whatever you determine that term to mean, has ruined most modern entertainment platforms. You guys call me whatever you want (I am none of them), but the general public is sick and tired of these agendas literally being shoved in our face at every turn. Why does it matter? Everyone knows these “non dominant” groups exist are fine with it. Except we have no choice but to have thrown at us. I want to watch a movie without rolling my eyes. I want to watch a new TV show without rolling my eyes. Again, call me what you want, but I just want to be entertained without social agendas.

    Disney is at the forefront of this. Every single thing they do now has this stuff apart of it. The ratings, Disney plus subs (which are down 20% compared to 1 year ago), and box office numbers don’t lie. The general public is over it. Can we not just go back to caring about entertaining and a good story?
    Crazy how the term "woke" gets thrown around for any little thing...
    Crazy that these agendas have made it that way. And I am sorry if the term woke offends anyone, that is not my intention. However, the literal definition of “wokeism” is being sensitive to perceived social or political injustice. It is exactly everything the media twists and turns into today. So yeah, woke is overplayed, but by everyone.
    Agenda?? Crazy how discrimination and social injustice created a need for the "agenda".
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 3,316 ★★★★
    Funniest part about inhumans is that they were bare hyping it in the trailer saying it was gonna be revolutionary, the best show💀💀💀
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 3,316 ★★★★
    Haven't watched them, but from what I've seen on YouTube, cloak and dagger and runaways were good
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,068 ★★★★★
    Captain Obvious is the most obvious Captain. Prove that wrong
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,277 ★★★★★



    Emilia90 said:

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    I hate the term woke to describe things (not you here but by people to downplay rep) but she-hulk is just a bad direction for how they wanted to portray a strong woman. Downplaying Banner and stripping what made her so cool in other media was the shows biggest sin. It’s not horrible other than that, but it’s also pretty barebones and disappointing. Marvel isn’t alone in that though, you’re right that Netflix and a lot of other media thinks that a strong character has to be an unrelenting pos
    Well, it is the problem though. “Woke” whatever you determine that term to mean, has ruined most modern entertainment platforms. You guys call me whatever you want (I am none of them), but the general public is sick and tired of these agendas literally being shoved in our face at every turn. Why does it matter? Everyone knows these “non dominant” groups exist are fine with it. Except we have no choice but to have thrown at us. I want to watch a movie without rolling my eyes. I want to watch a new TV show without rolling my eyes. Again, call me what you want, but I just want to be entertained without social agendas.

    Disney is at the forefront of this. Every single thing they do now has this stuff apart of it. The ratings, Disney plus subs (which are down 20% compared to 1 year ago), and box office numbers don’t lie. The general public is over it. Can we not just go back to caring about entertaining and a good story?
    Crazy how the term "woke" gets thrown around for any little thing...
    Crazy that these agendas have made it that way. And I am sorry if the term woke offends anyone, that is not my intention. However, the literal definition of “wokeism” is being sensitive to perceived social or political injustice. It is exactly everything the media twists and turns into today. So yeah, woke is overplayed, but by everyone.
    Agenda?? Crazy how discrimination and social injustice created a need for the "agenda".
    Perceived being the key word you left out. Having a character NOT be a minority is not injustice…. It’s story telling. Just like how having one being a minority is. It’s just that it’s forced 95% of the time, or, it goes away from the source material, which is the issue in most cases.

    If we took Blade, for example, and casted Tom Cruise it would be dumb. Just like if we took Wolverine and casted him as Dylan Mulvaney.
    Betting $5 Dylan Mulvaney will be replacing Hugh Jackman after Deadpool 3
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 6,328 ★★★★★
    Agreed. Even She Hulk had its good moments
  • DanielRandDanielRand Member Posts: 460 ★★★★
    Just here to say Iron Fist deserved a 3rd season exploring the 7 cities of heaven.
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,372 ★★★★
    Agree, only TV show I didnt watched entirelly
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,896 ★★★★★
    She-Hulk had some good ideas and I really liked the fourth wall breaking, but it was ultimately let down by some very poor writing. If it had been just a fun court comedy show with superheroes and villains, that could have been pretty cool to watch. However, they never got most of those things right. I do think a lot of the comedy worked (Wongers, baby!) but no one seemed to have any idea how to write compelling court/legal stuff.

    I mean, can you imagine how the show would have been if its court cases had been as strong as the Punisher trial in Daredevil season 2? Not as dark, obviously, but as well-written as that whole story arc? She-Hulk could have been amazing.

    But...it wasn't.

    That being said, I don't think it's the worst Marvel show. I never watched Inhumans so I can't really comment on it, but I'd like to throw the first half of Season 1 of Agents of Shield into the mix. That show really picked up steam in the latter half of Season 1 and then stayed really good throughout its run, but it did not leave a good first impression.

    Also, season 1 of Iron Fist as well as the Defenders show. I genuinely hated both. Iron Fist got better in Season 2, but the first season was such a horrible trainwreck, and the Defenders show was basically the worst elements of all of the other shows combined into one mess. Considering how much I liked all of the separate shows (except for Iron Fist), I was really disappointed with how much the Defenders show sucked.
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,753 ★★★★★
    edited June 10
    Ercarret said:

    She-Hulk had some good ideas and I really liked the fourth wall breaking, but it was ultimately let down by some very poor writing. If it had been just a fun court comedy show with superheroes and villains, that could have been pretty cool to watch. However, they never got most of those things right. I do think a lot of the comedy worked (Wongers, baby!) but no one seemed to have any idea how to write compelling court/legal stuff.

    I mean, can you imagine how the show would have been if its court cases had been as strong as the Punisher trial in Daredevil season 2? Not as dark, obviously, but as well-written as that whole story arc? She-Hulk could have been amazing.

    But...it wasn't.

    That being said, I don't think it's the worst Marvel show. I never watched Inhumans so I can't really comment on it, but I'd like to throw the first half of Season 1 of Agents of Shield into the mix. That show really picked up steam in the latter half of Season 1 and then stayed really good throughout its run, but it did not leave a good first impression.

    Also, season 1 of Iron Fist as well as the Defenders show. I genuinely hated both. Iron Fist got better in Season 2, but the first season was such a horrible trainwreck, and the Defenders show was basically the worst elements of all of the other shows combined into one mess. Considering how much I liked all of the separate shows (except for Iron Fist), I was really disappointed with how much the Defenders show sucked.

    Glaring good point about She-Hulk. The writing was the foundation and it was garbage.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★

    Emilia90 said:

    Shehulk exists**


    Honestly tho,I don't get the she hulk hate. Is it boring? Kinda. But it is atleast different from the othe commercial marvel tv shows. I really do enjoyed the fourth wall breaks and especially the last episode.

    Or do y'all hate it for being "borderline woke"? But isn't every netflix series woke nowadays?
    I hate the term woke to describe things (not you here but by people to downplay rep) but she-hulk is just a bad direction for how they wanted to portray a strong woman. Downplaying Banner and stripping what made her so cool in other media was the shows biggest sin. It’s not horrible other than that, but it’s also pretty barebones and disappointing. Marvel isn’t alone in that though, you’re right that Netflix and a lot of other media thinks that a strong character has to be an unrelenting pos
    Well, it is the problem though. “Woke” whatever you determine that term to mean, has ruined most modern entertainment platforms. You guys call me whatever you want (I am none of them), but the general public is sick and tired of these agendas literally being shoved in our face at every turn. Why does it matter? Everyone knows these “non dominant” groups exist are fine with it. Except we have no choice but to have thrown at us. I want to watch a movie without rolling my eyes. I want to watch a new TV show without rolling my eyes. Again, call me what you want, but I just want to be entertained without social agendas.

    Disney is at the forefront of this. Every single thing they do now has this stuff apart of it. The ratings, Disney plus subs (which are down 20% compared to 1 year ago), and box office numbers don’t lie. The general public is over it. Can we not just go back to caring about entertaining and a good story?
    Comics have had a very solid and consistent social awareness component since the 70s. Media based on the comics stories from the 70s to today wouldn't take a step backwards socially.

    The world of media consumption is too different to point to "social agendas" as the reason box office numbers don't match up to those from the heyday of big budget blockbusters and the honeymoon period of novel streaming services. I could just as easily point to superhero fatigue, good writing as a finite resource, too much content, and decay of the theater experience compared to home viewing.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    I'm inclined to believe that writers keep throwing "woke" things into stories because, well for lack of a better term, they don't have any other ideas. They've become uncreative. They've lost what makes writing writing. The human race in general has lost its creativity compared to times like the Renaissance. I could blame technology and AI, but that's just part of the problem. Nearly every TV show in general suffers from poor writing now.

    There's WAAAAAY too much content. Excellent writing and killer source material isn't a guarantee of success anymore. There's only so much good writing, much less excellent, and the source material doesn't always translate well, so you need strong writing to close the gaps and/or flesh things out.

    I would also say that many writers are overcompensating for ignorant viewers and those that need a point hammered to death for it to penetrate. How many times have we seen people complaining about comics that have been socially driven for decades becoming "woke" or about things that stayed true to the source material and they claimed it was a departure that ripped off something that came out 15 years later?

    Some of the ham-fisted socially driven stuff gets on my nerves, but a lot of it I chalk up to people so desperate for representation and acknowledgement, they push. Star-Lord being mushed into pride stuff for a weakly insinuated off-panel "Devil's Threesome", for instance.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    Buttehrs said:

    I'm inclined to believe that writers keep throwing "woke" things into stories because, well for lack of a better term, they don't have any other ideas. They've become uncreative. They've lost what makes writing writing. The human race in general has lost its creativity compared to times like the Renaissance. I could blame technology and AI, but that's just part of the problem. Nearly every TV show in general suffers from poor writing now.

    There's WAAAAAY too much content. Excellent writing and killer source material isn't a guarantee of success anymore. There's only so much good writing, much less excellent, and the source material doesn't always translate well, so you need strong writing to close the gaps and/or flesh things out.

    I would also say that many writers are overcompensating for ignorant viewers and those that need a point hammered to death for it to penetrate. How many times have we seen people complaining about comics that have been socially driven for decades becoming "woke" or about things that stayed true to the source material and they claimed it was a departure that ripped off something that came out 15 years later?

    Some of the ham-fisted socially driven stuff gets on my nerves, but a lot of it I chalk up to people so desperate for representation and acknowledgement, they push. Star-Lord being mushed into pride stuff for a weakly insinuated off-panel "Devil's Threesome", for instance.
    People also should go back to reading more. People complain, well I don't have time to read a boom, but then sit there for 10 hours binge watching a show. Guess what? Could've spent that time reading a book and gotten way more out of it.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,090 ★★★★★
    edited June 11

    Also, I'll stand up for She-Hulk.

    Inhumans was trying to be a superhero show: She-Hulk was trying to be something different.

    It's not intended to be watched as a traditional superhero series: it's a different genre entirely, that's not to everyone's taste.

    If you think of it as a legal procedural comedy-drama, it's a watchable show, if not an amazing one. Some really fun ideas, especially with Abomination and Wong, and Immortal Man.

    I'd rewatch She-Hulk before rewatching Iron Fist...

    So showrunners could just make original work series instead of high riding attention of audiance by using Marvel character's name?

    If it was just an original character series doing legal court comedy then no one would bat an eye nor anyone would have watched it for the first time.

    So that means showrunners are using established fan base of superhero theme just to piss on that said fanbase?
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,267 ★★★★★
    Not a fan of the She-Hulk show. It's just a surface-level, cookie-cutter take on a character that frankly could have been much better with tighter writing and more passion. I'd be somewhat fine with the show if it didn't stop trying to make a bunch of 4th wall metacommentary to make it seem like the show was smarter than it actually is, which comes off as rather pretentious.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★
    Buttehrs said:

    Buttehrs said:

    I'm inclined to believe that writers keep throwing "woke" things into stories because, well for lack of a better term, they don't have any other ideas. They've become uncreative. They've lost what makes writing writing. The human race in general has lost its creativity compared to times like the Renaissance. I could blame technology and AI, but that's just part of the problem. Nearly every TV show in general suffers from poor writing now.

    There's WAAAAAY too much content. Excellent writing and killer source material isn't a guarantee of success anymore. There's only so much good writing, much less excellent, and the source material doesn't always translate well, so you need strong writing to close the gaps and/or flesh things out.

    I would also say that many writers are overcompensating for ignorant viewers and those that need a point hammered to death for it to penetrate. How many times have we seen people complaining about comics that have been socially driven for decades becoming "woke" or about things that stayed true to the source material and they claimed it was a departure that ripped off something that came out 15 years later?

    Some of the ham-fisted socially driven stuff gets on my nerves, but a lot of it I chalk up to people so desperate for representation and acknowledgement, they push. Star-Lord being mushed into pride stuff for a weakly insinuated off-panel "Devil's Threesome", for instance.
    People also should go back to reading more. People complain, well I don't have time to read a boom, but then sit there for 10 hours binge watching a show. Guess what? Could've spent that time reading a book and gotten way more out of it.
    You'd think. The book markets are over-saturated with low-effort dross, copycats, and corporate cashgrab stuff too.
  • BigPoppaCBONEBigPoppaCBONE Member Posts: 2,386 ★★★★★

    Not a fan of the She-Hulk show. It's just a surface-level, cookie-cutter take on a character that frankly could have been much better with tighter writing and more passion. I'd be somewhat fine with the show if it didn't stop trying to make a bunch of 4th wall metacommentary to make it seem like the show was smarter than it actually is, which comes off as rather pretentious.

    It was novel when the She-Hulk comics did it in the late 80s, to the amusement of smart-marks. Now people have seen it done to death and it's considered lame or a ripoff of Deadpool.
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