This aspect of Battlegrounds is straight up unfair!

FeydRauthaFeydRautha Member Posts: 73
edited June 14 in General Discussion
I don’t know what is the deciding factor in this scenario but having to draft first and also place defender first is just unfair bs. Everyone knows having to draft first gives edge to your opponent because if you picked a defender then they can choose a counter in their next pick and if you pick an attacker then they can pick a defender that’s bad for the attacker you picked first. Not only that, if you draft first that means the opponent gets to draft last which means they can pick a defender that you have no counter for at all.

Well then since your opponent gets a slight edge in the draft then you should get an edge in the defender placement right? Well for some reason the game decides to dog pile on you by making you place defender first which not might have that great of a significance in the first two rounds, but in the third round it’s a massive advantage to your opponent.

It’s not like you will always get the short end of the stick, sometimes your opponent has to face this predicament while you get the edge. But does it have to be this way? The fix is simple: if you draft first then you shouldn’t have to place defender first. Similarly if you draft last then you have to place the defender first. Depending on the scenario one might be more beneficial to you than the other but at least you don’t get kicked in the nuts both times.

Now there might be some bigger picture I am failing to see here, some kind of matchmaking balancing taking place that I’m not aware of. But speaking from my personal experience of multiple bgs season this aspect of the game mode has bugged me a lot and I hope anyone who have experienced these things will be able to relate.
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  • Dab_westDab_west Member Posts: 178 ★★
    placing first isnt that bad cause if u win the first round, u can easily set up third round in ur favour by just throwing the second round. or if ur opponent places a defender u know u can kill faster than whatever he can do to ur best defender remaining then u just take round 2
  • obsidimanobsidiman Member Posts: 974 ★★★
    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.
  • FeydRauthaFeydRautha Member Posts: 73
    obsidiman said:

    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.

    You sound quite tilted about having to see too many battle-grounds related complains yet you clicked on this post despite knowing from the title that it was going to be a complain about the battle-grounds?

    @obsidiman, if you are open to suggestions, then I suggest you to stay away from things that cause you mental frustration.
  • SiliyoSiliyo Member Posts: 1,470 ★★★★★

    obsidiman said:

    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.

    You sound quite tilted about having to see too many battle-grounds related complains yet you clicked on this post despite knowing from the title that it was going to be a complain about the battle-grounds?

    @obsidiman, if you are open to suggestions, then I suggest you to stay away from things that cause you mental frustration.
    And you sound tilted about drafting order when that’s random. Maybe you take your own suggestion and stay away from things (Battlegrounds) that cause you mental frustration
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    I try to place 2-way champs in first draft.
  • GlassbackGlassback Member Posts: 648 ★★★

    I try to place 2-way champs in first draft.

    Yep, hulking, Adam, Kingpin, Mr Sinister, fantman etc are always safe bets for me if I have first pick
  • obsidimanobsidiman Member Posts: 974 ★★★

    obsidiman said:

    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.

    You sound quite tilted about having to see too many battle-grounds related complains yet you clicked on this post despite knowing from the title that it was going to be a complain about the battle-grounds?

    @obsidiman, if you are open to suggestions, then I suggest you to stay away from things that cause you mental frustration.
    No mental distress here. Just pointing out the fact that this particular complaint went away for a few seasons.

    Interesting how I'm tilted and frustrated, but you, @FeydRautha, were the one to post a complaint. So, then, you're not frustrated by BGs and you're fine with how the current system works?

    I'm only here because your title was so perfectly click bait worded that I had to check it out. It's tough to know which posts to stay away from if I'm not allowed to read the posts contained within it. Any advice/suggestions navigating this (or any) forum would be appreciated.
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,860 ★★★★
    I guess this is better than post about BG match making is unfair or I'm losing because of the draft RNG. Kabam did state that drafting first had a slight winning percentage in BG but it was a very small advantage. If it's a slight advantage, I can't see them tweaking it. If it was a huge advantage it would be a different story. Skill, roster size, draft RNG and getting the right counters are more important than who drafts first in my opinion.
  • FeydRauthaFeydRautha Member Posts: 73
    Siliyo said:

    obsidiman said:

    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.

    You sound quite tilted about having to see too many battle-grounds related complains yet you clicked on this post despite knowing from the title that it was going to be a complain about the battle-grounds?

    @obsidiman, if you are open to suggestions, then I suggest you to stay away from things that cause you mental frustration.
    And you sound tilted about drafting order when that’s random. Maybe you take your own suggestion and stay away from things (Battlegrounds) that cause you mental frustration
    I was waiting to see when some random individual would take things personally when it wasn't even aimed at them. Also your suggestion saying me to stay away from Battlegrounds "which is causing me mental frustration(your assumption btw) adds nothing to the original topic of this discussion. I hope it was a valuable lesson for you to learn (which is to not take things personally incase I need to spell it out for you @Siliyo )
  • SiliyoSiliyo Member Posts: 1,470 ★★★★★

    Siliyo said:

    obsidiman said:

    Wow... been a couple of seasons since this was complained about. Didn't get to complete my BG rant bingo card by OP not saying that he always drafts first.

    OP, if you have first pick, draft an attacker.

    You sound quite tilted about having to see too many battle-grounds related complains yet you clicked on this post despite knowing from the title that it was going to be a complain about the battle-grounds?

    @obsidiman, if you are open to suggestions, then I suggest you to stay away from things that cause you mental frustration.
    And you sound tilted about drafting order when that’s random. Maybe you take your own suggestion and stay away from things (Battlegrounds) that cause you mental frustration
    I was waiting to see when some random individual would take things personally when it wasn't even aimed at them. Also your suggestion saying me to stay away from Battlegrounds "which is causing me mental frustration(your assumption btw) adds nothing to the original topic of this discussion. I hope it was a valuable lesson for you to learn (which is to not take things personally incase I need to spell it out for you @Siliyo )


    It’s okay little man, there’s an MCOC article just for you @FeydRautha :smile: have a read and maybe you can learn a thing or two about battlegrounds
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,586 ★★★★

    I don’t know what is the deciding factor in this scenario but having to draft first and also place defender first is just unfair bs.

    Now there might be some bigger picture I am failing to see here, some kind of matchmaking balancing taking place that I’m not aware of. But speaking from my personal experience of multiple bgs season this aspect of the game mode has bugged me a lot and I hope anyone who have experienced these things will be able to relate.

    If it makes you feel better about having a virtual coin flip (similar to the crystal carousel of champs) that gives the illusion you had anything but the rng chance the system assigns, I'm all for it. Push "tails" every time, and have at it.
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