3. If you r3 her she will be instabanned 90% of the time.
Ehhhhh....that's a surprising percentage to me, as a r3 multiple duped Chavez owner; mine is NOT banned 90% of the time. I feel this is subjective to deck.
Rn I have titania,KM, juggs, Bullseye, Onslaught, and Serpent (unduped) at r3 and Red Skull is soon to join them. There will probably be times where Chavez wouldnt even get banned if i was to r3 her.
Not throwing shade here but based on his posts he does look like he spends on the game (which isn't a bad thing at all) but of course if he has ten r3s it's unlikely people will ban his Chavez cause they will most likely go after his r3 defenders or r3 nukes first which are far more dangerous, that's what I do when I face someone with a massive roster.
Yeah i was mainly curious which defenders of his would be getting banned over Chavez, as i have some of his r3s lile bullseye , onslaught , serpent(but unduped) and Titania.
But regardless I feel like people would prioritize banning r3 nuke attackers like Sunspot, Silk, Spider Ham, Mantis etc or champs that are even better dual threats than Chavez like Photon, Red Skull. Maybe even Domino
r3 awakened Chavez can keep up with some of those like Ham and Mantis actually and since she's one of the best Maestro/Serpent counters I would personally prioritize her over any of those two.
I guess at the end of the day depends what you want more, offense or defense, Chavez is a better attacker I'm not denying that but Sasquatch is a far better defender and he can take the same matchups Chavez can take on top of that even if it's slightly slower. Just wish people would stop sleeping on him on attack cause he's really not as slow as a lot of people think lol.
Faster than spam and mantis assuming theyre buff heavy? Or even without buffs?
Who would you say from the 7* 's available , outpaces her on attack?
Even without buffs, that awakened ability increases her damage a ton it helps her rinse even defenders without buffs. I have awakened r2 and she can do ROL WS in a minute, each sp1 sp1 sp2 rotation basically takes 50% off so you're looking at about 35 sec BGs fights for same rank, 45 against r3s however like I said mine is r2 not r3. If she was r3 she'd probably be pretty close to Mantis speed who does all defenders even r3 in about 30-35. Maybe not exactly as fast as Mantis and Ham but it's very very close.
In speed basically all the ones you mentioned except Mantis and Ham, they will be slightly faster but it's not like a 10-15 sec difference like with Sunspot or Silk.
And i do agree Sassy is slept on for attack i think his biggest problem is if Wrath triggers late or if all 3 of your sp2s dont crit
Actually not getting crits isn't an issue at r3, it is when he's r2 but not when he's r3. If you check out Trappy's video you'll notice a lot of times he doesn't crit but it doesn't matter cause the special will still do about 170k in total while on Wrath so all you gotta do is throw another one and they will die regardless of crits. No healthpool in the game is big enough in BGs to survive two sp2s while on Wrath. Wrath RNG can definitely hinder him a bit though, especially when you get really bad luck and trigger it at 11 or 12 but based on my own experience that's a very rare occurrence and won't happen most of the time, usually it will trigger at 7-9.
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
I can guarantee you there are plenty of Celestial players with a r3 Sasquatch instead of Chavez, it's not a no brainer unless you play in Gold 3 lol. The difference in attack value is not as abysmal as some of you are making it seems so it depends entirely on what op needs, dual threat or pure attacker.
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
Excepts I already have Juggs at r3 who not only is the better attacker than Chavez, but does more matchups than her. Kushala might not be as fast but she takes on way more defenders than her. Those matchups that Chavez does outside of Serpent and Maestro, almost 90% of the time someone else will just do them faster than her . On top of that Chavez's value on defense isnt what it use to be, shes not a true dual threat anymore, whereas Sassy's value on defense has actually increased because his matchups are always going to take long, especially if Wrath triggers later on. He can also be used for attack and honestly a better attacker than Chavez is a defender
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
I can guarantee you there are plenty of Celestial players with a r3 Sasquatch instead of Chavez, it's not a no brainer unless you play in Gold 3 lol. The difference in attack value is not as abysmal as some of you are making it seems so it depends entirely on what op needs, dual threat or pure attacker.
Was not talking to you. We all get it, you’re in love with Sassy and will rebuttal anyone that says Chavez. I was talking to the author of the post. ✌🏼
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
Excepts I already have Juggs at r3 who not only is the better attacker than Chavez, but does more matchups than her. Kushala might not be as fast but she takes on way more defenders than her. Those matchups that Chavez does outside of Serpent and Maestro, almost 90% of the time someone else will just do them faster than her . On top of that Chavez's value on defense isnt what it use to be, shes not a true dual threat anymore, whereas Sassy's value on defense has actually increased because his matchups are always going to take long, especially if Wrath triggers later on. He can also be used for attack and honestly a better attacker than Chavez is a defender
I agree with this thinking. I’ve been debating the same decision. Admittedly my R2 Chavez isn’t awakened yet, and my Sassy is. But I do have Juggs - at R2 he already destroys pretty much everything so not even sure I would need to R3 him. So, given that I’ve already got arguable the best attacker I am going to move forward and R3 my Sasquatch at the next level up. That way I’ve got the best defender and certainly not a slouch attacker to pair up with my best attacker. Certainly going to use my Chavez as well obviously but think she is good at R2 for now.
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
I can guarantee you there are plenty of Celestial players with a r3 Sasquatch instead of Chavez, it's not a no brainer unless you play in Gold 3 lol. The difference in attack value is not as abysmal as some of you are making it seems so it depends entirely on what op needs, dual threat or pure attacker.
Was not talking to you. We all get it, you’re in love with Sassy and will rebuttal anyone that says Chavez. I was talking to the author of the post. ✌🏼
The author of the post is also leaning more towards Sassy than Chavez✌ Furthermore I've provided multiple logical arguments as to why that is, you're just straight up raging like a child.
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Doesn't matter, op is leaning more towards Sasquatch after everything I've said which was the whole point of me even arguing in the first place. You were unable to make a strong case for Chavez and now he will pick Sasquatch lmao.
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Doesn't matter, op is leaning more towards Sasquatch after everything I've said which was the whole point of me even arguing in the first place. You were unable to make a strong case for Chavez and now he will pick Sasquatch lmao.
What sig on Sassy? Sorry if this info was elsewhere in the thread and I missed it.
Hes unawakened for now which is why i was unsure to begin with. Though I have been wondering if theres even much benefit to giving him sig stones since the regen stacks are limited to 3 anyway and since the combat power reduction is only from heavies , which he wont even use much and specials which already power drain when the opponent is at 3 bars.
Chavez's sig scaling actually seems to be more linear and beneficial than his
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
Excepts I already have Juggs at r3 who not only is the better attacker than Chavez, but does more matchups than her. Kushala might not be as fast but she takes on way more defenders than her. Those matchups that Chavez does outside of Serpent and Maestro, almost 90% of the time someone else will just do them faster than her . On top of that Chavez's value on defense isnt what it use to be, shes not a true dual threat anymore, whereas Sassy's value on defense has actually increased because his matchups are always going to take long, especially if Wrath triggers later on. He can also be used for attack and honestly a better attacker than Chavez is a defender
I agree with this thinking. I’ve been debating the same decision. Admittedly my R2 Chavez isn’t awakened yet, and my Sassy is. But I do have Juggs - at R2 he already destroys pretty much everything so not even sure I would need to R3 him. So, given that I’ve already got arguable the best attacker I am going to move forward and R3 my Sasquatch at the next level up. That way I’ve got the best defender and certainly not a slouch attacker to pair up with my best attacker. Certainly going to use my Chavez as well obviously but think she is good at R2 for now.
Let us know what you decide!
@Oakenshield The way I see it is Chavez is the better r2 but Sassy is the better r3. For his purposes of both defense the higher healthpoints is more needed for stalling, whereas Chavez will just get nuked regardless of rank. And for attack, he also needs it more to make sure the fights are finished when he enters Wrath. (Yes she is still the better attacker)
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Doesn't matter, op is leaning more towards Sasquatch after everything I've said which was the whole point of me even arguing in the first place. You were unable to make a strong case for Chavez and now he will pick Sasquatch lmao.
I never disagreed with that, Chavez is a better attacker indeed. She is however a pretty useless defender nowadays because of how stacked the science class is. Sasquatch is both an attacker and a defender, Chavez is just an attacker, that's the difference.
What sig on Sassy? Sorry if this info was elsewhere in the thread and I missed it.
Hes unawakened for now which is why i was unsure to begin with. Though I have been wondering if theres even much benefit to giving him sig stones since the regen stacks are limited to 3 anyway and since the combat power reduction is only from heavies , which he wont even use much and specials which already power drain when the opponent is at 3 bars.
Chavez's sig scaling actually seems to be more linear and beneficial than his
I think you’re thinking way too hard about this one, when it’s basically a no brainer(as you can see by the poll). If you said Chavez or Juggs, or Chavez or Kushala, then that would be a tough one. There’s other polls currently with Chavez vs Onslaught and Chavez vs Ham, Serpent, etc…and Chavez takes those polls too. 👍🏻
Excepts I already have Juggs at r3 who not only is the better attacker than Chavez, but does more matchups than her. Kushala might not be as fast but she takes on way more defenders than her. Those matchups that Chavez does outside of Serpent and Maestro, almost 90% of the time someone else will just do them faster than her . On top of that Chavez's value on defense isnt what it use to be, shes not a true dual threat anymore, whereas Sassy's value on defense has actually increased because his matchups are always going to take long, especially if Wrath triggers later on. He can also be used for attack and honestly a better attacker than Chavez is a defender
I agree with this thinking. I’ve been debating the same decision. Admittedly my R2 Chavez isn’t awakened yet, and my Sassy is. But I do have Juggs - at R2 he already destroys pretty much everything so not even sure I would need to R3 him. So, given that I’ve already got arguable the best attacker I am going to move forward and R3 my Sasquatch at the next level up. That way I’ve got the best defender and certainly not a slouch attacker to pair up with my best attacker. Certainly going to use my Chavez as well obviously but think she is good at R2 for now.
Let us know what you decide!
@Oakenshield The way I see it is Chavez is the better r2 but Sassy is the better r3. For his purposes of both defense the higher healthpoints is more needed for stalling, whereas Chavez will just get nuked regardless of rank. And for attack, he also needs it more to make sure the fights are finished when he enters Wrath. (Yes she is still the better attacker)
Thanks - yes I agree and will be R3ng my Sassy next level up.
What sig on Sassy? Sorry if this info was elsewhere in the thread and I missed it.
Hes unawakened for now which is why i was unsure to begin with.
If Sassy isn't duped, then Chavez all the way. Sass is practically useless on defense besides having high health if he doesn't have the signature ability. Chavez, however, is a dual threat.
Well I pulled the trigger. @Polygon what did you decide?
Im glad to see it mate, i decided to go with him in the end as well just waiting for when I get the dupe before I pull the trigger.
The only thing that could possibly have me stray differently is if I pulled and duped Kushala who's versatility would probably allow her to be meta relevant for longer than Chavez
Well I pulled the trigger. @Polygon what did you decide?
Im glad to see it mate, i decided to go with him in the end as well just waiting for when I get the dupe before I pull the trigger.
The only thing that could possibly have me stray differently is if I pulled and duped Kushala who's versatility would probably allow her to be meta relevant for longer than Chavez
Yes, definitely see your point on Kushala. I recently pulled her also but since I’ve got a max sig ascended R5 I’m not going to invest in her until I get her duped. If I had her duped already I might have R3’d her ahead of Sassy. But then again maybe not.
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Doesn't matter, op is leaning more towards Sasquatch after everything I've said which was the whole point of me even arguing in the first place. You were unable to make a strong case for Chavez and now he will pick Sasquatch lmao.
Stop that immature act dude. OP makes any decision he wants and no one should feel like they lose here. Why do you make it like a fight in every post. Is this game your career, hence you need to fight tooth and nail with other ppl for having different experience in the game than you?
Oh oh I got another one triggered.
Lol, you really wish that so someone could come to communicate with you because you are so lonely. I see through you and recognize your pattern in many posts. You like to fight and to win so much. Well, hope my comments make you happy so you'll be less negative.
You absolutely made my day yes, not because of the things you're saying but because you're this triggered over a bunch of words on a forum.
Lol, if you need to trigger ppl here you really need to sharpen your mind first. Your words sound literally like what my kids say to tease other kids. The dude has a great sense of triumph bc the OP leans towards Sasquatch. That's enough for me to know that you don't achieve much in real life. My words can make some adults do some introspection, but I guess you're not used to think about your life.
Yep, basically a forum troll. Got nothing better to do than antagonize everyone on here. People that don’t even talk to him, he replies to. Lol. The kid has some issues. Most likely doesn’t get out of his room much, except when his Mom tells him it’s time for dinner. Ignore the troll. Ignorance is bliss. 🤙🏼
I was going to go to Hawaii next month 🥺
Add me in game or lmk your game name. We can talk on there.
No way you took the bait again HAHAHAHAHA
Btw would you agree that the sig stone investment for Sassy isnt that beneficial since it just increases the chance of the regen but the regen stacks are limited to 3 anyway and since the combat power reduction is only from heavies or specials , which he wont even use much heavies, and his specials already power drain when the opponent is at 3 bars in wrath.
Chavez ez , with science R3 even R2 max sassy can hold in bgs is 60sec. R3 chavez nukes
Bro says "60 secs" like that's quick light work lol 60 secs is really slow and will cost you the match if your opponent isn't a potato.
Sassy doesn't have any slow down mechanic u just need to put champ that slow down like korg ,attuma , onslaught Pig ,silk ,titania ,hulk can nuke Sassy easily
Silk doesn't nuke Sasquatch, I have a r2 and it takes over 45 seconds cause of the rage stacks messing up with her damage. Pig is RNG dependant as well if you don't get him into Wrath early on it won't be a quick fight. Titania also 45 cause she has to go for sp3. 45 secs and above is not nuking, nuking is what CGR and Sunspot do in under 30. You could really only make an argument for a r3 Hulk cause the damage is absolutely ridiculous.
Chavez do in 30 sec 🤷🤷 many fights .
And who told you Sasquatch doesn't: Weird, I went in and casually did 550k health in 32 seconds.
Yeah try that vs Serpant 😂
Actually he can do Serpent, and not only that, he can do Photon Maestro and Onslaught as well, here's a video of him killing those four on a meta with unstoppable and evade: https://youtu.be/JcGiFxGD7Lc?si=kvqUjU_kpNfNsKGu You got any other excuses? 💀
Btw Chavez can't do Serpent in 30 either, it takes about 40-50 because of the death immunity buff. If you're going to argue at least get your facts straight
As per your video 😂sassy takes more than 60-70 sec that's slow according to you only .
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time. R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
It took that long cause he was gaining unstoppable and evade after every special, Chavez would take that long too if she had to wait out unstoppable and evade after every special.
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Lol I will just let the poll decide who ever wins is the winner 🤣
Doesn't matter, op is leaning more towards Sasquatch after everything I've said which was the whole point of me even arguing in the first place. You were unable to make a strong case for Chavez and now he will pick Sasquatch lmao.
Stop that immature act dude. OP makes any decision he wants and no one should feel like they lose here. Why do you make it like a fight in every post. Is this game your career, hence you need to fight tooth and nail with other ppl for having different experience in the game than you?
Oh oh I got another one triggered.
Lol, you really wish that so someone could come to communicate with you because you are so lonely. I see through you and recognize your pattern in many posts. You like to fight and to win so much. Well, hope my comments make you happy so you'll be less negative.
You absolutely made my day yes, not because of the things you're saying but because you're this triggered over a bunch of words on a forum.
Lol, if you need to trigger ppl here you really need to sharpen your mind first. Your words sound literally like what my kids say to tease other kids. The dude has a great sense of triumph bc the OP leans towards Sasquatch. That's enough for me to know that you don't achieve much in real life. My words can make some adults do some introspection, but I guess you're not used to think about your life.
Yep, basically a forum troll. Got nothing better to do than antagonize everyone on here. People that don’t even talk to him, he replies to. Lol. The kid has some issues. Most likely doesn’t get out of his room much, except when his Mom tells him it’s time for dinner. Ignore the troll. Ignorance is bliss. 🤙🏼
I was going to go to Hawaii next month 🥺
Add me in game or lmk your game name. We can talk on there.
No way you took the bait again HAHAHAHAHA
Btw would you agree that the sig stone investment for Sassy isnt that beneficial since it just increases the chance of the regen but the regen stacks are limited to 3 anyway and since the combat power reduction is only from heavies or specials , which he wont even use much heavies, and his specials already power drain when the opponent is at 3 bars in wrath.
100% yes, the 6* absolutely needs 200 to be tanky but the 7* at r3, sig 20 is more than enough. He doesn't even need awakening imo cause he's so tanky at r3 but yeah don't waste any sigs.
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I have awakened r2 and she can do ROL WS in a minute, each sp1 sp1 sp2 rotation basically takes 50% off so you're looking at about 35 sec BGs fights for same rank, 45 against r3s however like I said mine is r2 not r3. If she was r3 she'd probably be pretty close to Mantis speed who does all defenders even r3 in about 30-35. Maybe not exactly as fast as Mantis and Ham but it's very very close.
In speed basically all the ones you mentioned except Mantis and Ham, they will be slightly faster but it's not like a 10-15 sec difference like with Sunspot or Silk.
Wrath RNG can definitely hinder him a bit though, especially when you get really bad luck and trigger it at 11 or 12 but based on my own experience that's a very rare occurrence and won't happen most of the time, usually it will trigger at 7-9.
The difference in attack value is not as abysmal as some of you are making it seems so it depends entirely on what op needs, dual threat or pure attacker.
You have how many R3?
And you’re asking for advice?
Pretty sure you made it this far. Without.
You might be ok.
Let us know what you decide!
Furthermore I've provided multiple logical arguments as to why that is, you're just straight up raging like a child.
I have done 35sec fights with 6-8sec loading time.
R3 vs R3 most are unduped so what I can't complaint if R3 are low sig or unduped
Unduped Serpent is a trash defender, a lot of mystics can do it in 35 including Sasquatch. I'll do a friendly with my friend's r2 today and post it here, you're not as special as you think lol.
Faster attacker than sassy
Better attacker than sassy
Can regen with his Sp2
Here is video
Chavez's sig scaling actually seems to be more linear and beneficial than his @Oakenshield The way I see it is Chavez is the better r2 but Sassy is the better r3. For his purposes of both defense the higher healthpoints is more needed for stalling, whereas Chavez will just get nuked regardless of rank. And for attack, he also needs it more to make sure the fights are finished when he enters Wrath. (Yes she is still the better attacker)
Sasquatch is both an attacker and a defender, Chavez is just an attacker, that's the difference.
The only thing that could possibly have me stray differently is if I pulled and duped Kushala who's versatility would probably allow her to be meta relevant for longer than Chavez