Fighting Valiants as a TBer..

Wikze

What’s the best way to get ahead in BG’s when I’m a TBer and all I fight are paragons n valiants your help will be appreciated.. I’m new to this game .. thanks mate

PT_99

Keep improving your roaster from story content and BG, glory shop

Furrymoosen

It's the nature of the beast with BGs. All players are lumped in together to compete for the same rewards. As you progress, you will face a higher concentration of tough accounts. There is no getting "ahead" for smaller accounts because you can only go as far as your roster and skill combined will take you and will eventually hit a cap.
Larger accounts tend to move up as the season progresses, so you may find it easing up in a few days as things shift.

Nightheart

Wait for a week and play many VT players will be in GC by then

Drago_von_Drago

Wikze said:

What’s the best way to get ahead in BG’s when I’m a TBer and all I fight are paragons n valiants your help will be appreciated.. I’m new to this game .. thanks mate

My thoughts:

1.Use it as a learning experience. You’re gonna hit a point where your roster is your limiting factor. Learn who they have ranked up for defense and for attack and who they use to counter your better defenders. Youll hit a point where no amount of skill will overcome the roster strength disparity. Time matters and a 7*R3 will take a lot longer to take down or win a lot faster than a 6*r3.

2. Wait it out for more people to move up.

3.Get lucky and get some forfeits in a row or easy wins.

JT_Supreme

I’m giving out free wins rn since I have too many elder marks.

MrBanks

I disagree with the majority of the player base on this one. I don’t see any reason why Uncollected-TB players can’t just face other Uncollected-TB players. Paragons and valiants make up the majority of battlegrounds, why can’t they just face each other more often than not when matchmaking? Sure, the rewards are all the same, but the lower level players need rewards like 6 star shards more than the higher level players yet they are prevented from getting a lot of the rewards to a certain extent because of the matchmaking.

Maybe there is an argument to be made for implementing a different ranking system that isn’t based purely off of wins? I think losses could be more of a factor in a player’s rank. Perhaps something similar to Counter-Strike’s competitive ranking system.

Furrymoosen

MrBanks said:

I disagree with the majority of the player base on this one. I don’t see any reason why Uncollected-TB players can’t just face other Uncollected-TB players. Paragons and valiants make up the majority of battlegrounds, why can’t they just face each other more often than not when matchmaking? Sure, the rewards are all the same, but the lower level players need rewards like 6 star shards more than the higher level players yet they are prevented from getting a lot of the rewards to a certain extent because of the matchmaking.

Maybe there is an argument to be made for implementing a different ranking system that isn’t based purely off of wins? I think losses could be more of a factor in a player’s rank. Perhaps something similar to Counter-Strike’s competitive ranking system.

So lower level accounts should have the privilege of accessing rewards more easily than higher level accounts because the rewards are more impactful for them? That really doesn't make sense.

The only scenario where UC-TB accounts shouldn't have to face Paragon+ is if they have their own separate game mode with rewards tailored to fit. I'm sure they wouldn't complain about the reduced rewards at all. This will never be resolvable so long as everyone exists on the same field.

MrBanks

Furrymoosen said:

MrBanks said:

I disagree with the majority of the player base on this one. I don’t see any reason why Uncollected-TB players can’t just face other Uncollected-TB players. Paragons and valiants make up the majority of battlegrounds, why can’t they just face each other more often than not when matchmaking? Sure, the rewards are all the same, but the lower level players need rewards like 6 star shards more than the higher level players yet they are prevented from getting a lot of the rewards to a certain extent because of the matchmaking.

Maybe there is an argument to be made for implementing a different ranking system that isn’t based purely off of wins? I think losses could be more of a factor in a player’s rank. Perhaps something similar to Counter-Strike’s competitive ranking system.

So lower level accounts should have the privilege of accessing rewards more easily than higher level accounts because the rewards are more impactful for them? That really doesn't make sense.

The only scenario where UC-TB accounts shouldn't have to face Paragon+ is if they have their own separate game mode with rewards tailored to fit. I'm sure they wouldn't complain about the reduced rewards at all. This will never be resolvable so long as everyone exists on the same field.

You certainly bring up a valid point but I don’t think it’s as black and white as “this will never be resolvable so as long as everyone exists on the same field.” I think that is the problem in of itself.

I think your second paragraph is the answer. There needs to be a different reward system but I don’t think it needs to be as complicated as one might think. There wouldn’t be any “reduced” rewards if they make sense for the reduced difficulty, it would just mean Uncollected-TB players wouldn’t be able to access things such as titan shards or T6 fragments unless they have significant progression.

There has to be a better system out there than the current one for the sake of the lower level players, especially with how important battlegrounds is nowadays.

Furrymoosen

MrBanks said:

Furrymoosen said:

MrBanks said:

I disagree with the majority of the player base on this one. I don’t see any reason why Uncollected-TB players can’t just face other Uncollected-TB players. Paragons and valiants make up the majority of battlegrounds, why can’t they just face each other more often than not when matchmaking? Sure, the rewards are all the same, but the lower level players need rewards like 6 star shards more than the higher level players yet they are prevented from getting a lot of the rewards to a certain extent because of the matchmaking.

Maybe there is an argument to be made for implementing a different ranking system that isn’t based purely off of wins? I think losses could be more of a factor in a player’s rank. Perhaps something similar to Counter-Strike’s competitive ranking system.

So lower level accounts should have the privilege of accessing rewards more easily than higher level accounts because the rewards are more impactful for them? That really doesn't make sense.

The only scenario where UC-TB accounts shouldn't have to face Paragon+ is if they have their own separate game mode with rewards tailored to fit. I'm sure they wouldn't complain about the reduced rewards at all. This will never be resolvable so long as everyone exists on the same field.

You certainly bring up a valid point but I don’t think it’s as black and white as “this will never be resolvable so as long as everyone exists on the same field.” I think that is the problem in of itself.

I think your second paragraph is the answer. There needs to be a different reward system but I don’t think it needs to be as complicated as one might think. There wouldn’t be any “reduced” rewards if they make sense for the reduced difficulty, it would just mean Uncollected-TB players wouldn’t be able to access things such as titan shards or T6 fragments unless they have significant progression.

There has to be a better system out there than the current one for the sake of the lower level players, especially with how important battlegrounds is nowadays.

Maybe a progression based solo objective with separate rank rewards and a lock on GC for Paragon+ only? Put a few extra trophy tokens in their rank rewards to make up for no GC, but not a 1:1 replacement.

Separate game modes is probably still the best solution to the problem. But we're only going to replace this issue with another issue, which will be those players complaining about the new rewards.

Wikze

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.. I appreciate them all … 😎👍🏽