BANQUET SO FAR -

Hey Summoners,

We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.

We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.

That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.

Comments

EdisonLaw

One word: Disappointing

Bendy

Better drop rates on t6cc being full ones we shouldnt need frags in this event

BigBlueMadness11

I'm more disappointed to see we only get an accolade calendar and not a holiday calendar. That has been there every year that I've played and I've played a lot of years.

I guess we shouldn't expect to see a holiday gift on Christmas either this year...

Twodayhang0ver

I’ve no problem with placing the best rewards in the events, but if no one wants to buy and open the crystals because the value of the contents isn’t worth the currency spent for them, milestones aren’t getting hit.

Furrymoosen

You overloaded crystals with items that Valiants have been stockpiling for months and much of it is just going to go into the overflow. Getting the R2/3 materials isn't the end of the world, and they do have value, but they also cost more units for less materials than we can get in other places of the game.

There is a continued overvaluing of 7* champions. In old gifting events (and I do mean in the 6*R3 and earlier days) we could open 50 crystals and get several 6* champs worth of crystals, but in 50 crystals this round we might not even get one full 7* crystal. We won't even touch Titan crystals. I got 2k shards in 66 crystals (20k units worth of crystals). That's insane.

Because you can't give too much to TBs, it seems like Valiants got the short end because we are stuck sharing a prize pool with them. But that isn't just this event, it is fairly consistent across the game that Valiants will share what is ultimately reduced rewards in most content we get to play (but that's a conversation for another day).

The basement is too low, the ceiling is exciting, but our options are basement, 1st floor, or ceiling another 10 stories up and nothing in between. The scaling isn't reasonable because the drop rates lean too far in the direction of the basement.

I've never had good luck with banquet or gifting crystals, but I have never been this disappointed by a crystal opening. Had this event not been hyped as much as it was by Kabam, it may have been easier to digest. Overall, celebrating 10 years has been a great time, but it's ending on a sour note.

DarkNightRise

Hey Summoners,

We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.

We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.

That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.

Not some, i think most

spiderbites0196

Better drop rates is basically the answer. I opened 65 crystals and didn’t even get enough shards for a full 7 star. Not to mention the lack of anything particularly useful. I could get more useful stuff from the Battlegrounds and Glory store than the 15k units I spent on these crystals

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QuikSilver7

I’ve no problem with placing the best rewards in the events, but if no one wants to buy and open the crystals because the value of the contents isn’t worth the currency spent for them, milestones aren’t getting hit.

I totally agree. Verbatim what was said on the stream was that the community milestones were a "cherry on top" and not subtracting from the overall rewards. However, if you prorate the milestone rewards excluding the realm event, they are frankly terrible. One rank 3, 3 rank 2s, a fifth of an awakening gem, 3 7 stars (plus two gifted guardians), and a fourth of a titan for 15,000 units. It's just not enough for the unit investment, especially considering that cyber weekend yielded a greater number of every single resource for that price.

CFCSports17

I genuinely believe if I had spent the units I spent on these crystals on black Friday, I would've had much much better rewards. For example, I opened 25k units worth and got less then 10k titan shards yet if I had bought the deals back then, I couldve had multiple nexus'. Now I certainly appreciate the banquet crystals offer much more then just that but just one example. I think the main thing overall is being built up and unfortunately let down. The rewards in the crystals are mostly great but the quantities is where the problem lies. In addition to that, the ranked rewards are amazing at the top but drop off far far too drastically (especially the alliance ones) there needed to be more rewards/ranks after the top whatever category. I can't speak for everyone but for me and for lots of people this is the time of year we look forward to most, both in game and out of it, it'll always be difficult to live up to our hype and expectations but this certainly fell flat. Hopefully this comes across constructively as that's how it's intended and just understand it's not easy and you're all human

QuikSilver7

Not to mention that the "Grand" Banquet was heralded as a big event from september till december with us grinding for banquet tickets and grandeur talks of an improved event that was better than last years. I remember after last year that a key takeaway was the team overvalued of the guardians champions last year. However it's the same issue again, the gifted guardians are the last milestones again and are frankly worse champions than the ones in last years pool (although this is subjective, but adam warlock is easily better than every buffed champ).

EdisonLaw

Not to mention that the "Grand" Banquet was heralded as a big event from september till december with us grinding for banquet tickets and grandeur talks of an improved event that was better than last years. I remember after last year that a key takeaway was the team overvalued of the guardians champions last year. However it's the same issue again, the gifted guardians are the last milestones again and are frankly worse champions than the ones in last years pool (although this is subjective, but adam warlock is easily better than every buffed champ).

Deadpool X Force competes

Tibzan

We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.

Apologies, but on what basis do you consider that the team have succeeded in that goal? A great deal of the playerbase isn’t angry, they are just completely let down that the event promising to be better than last year is yet again a let down.

Most of the materials rewarded (overwhelmingly, thanks to terrible reward weighting in the crystal) have been available and overstocked by many valiant players, fragments of full catalysts available for just 2000 Trophy Tokens in the BG store is worth 300 units in the teams estimation?

With all due respect, this is another let down, and it feels disrespectful to many users who have spent 10 years engaged with your game and community to measure success of events with zero regard to how the community, aka the living breathing heart of the game, feel.

It’s not good enough.

Cereal_chris

I think this years event is the most disappointing it was hyped as the grand banquet but the drop rates is terrible. I opened 50 and only got t6cc and sig stones.

Ironman3000

Stop lumping Valiants in with TB and lower players. Rewards that apply to them do not apply to us and what applies to us isn't for them.

End-game players are literally the people keeping the game alive. Stop screwing us over.

Bugmat78

I’ve no problem with placing the best rewards in the events, but if no one wants to buy and open the crystals because the value of the contents isn’t worth the currency spent for them, milestones aren’t getting hit.

Totally agree - I get the idea of not putting the best stuff in the crystals to keep the gap between megawhales and f2p as narrow as possible (it will still happen but slower) but then putting them in the realm event at the higher end of milestones means it's not very likely we as a community reach them, similar to the last realm event.

Dice_nick20

Hey Summoners,

We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.

We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.

That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.

It has been absolutely amazing so far I'm a cavalier player and I got 5 new 7* and 4 6* on rank 4 and pulled Hercules and duped him .

Zodlessbg

With one word - Disrespectful
With monthly calendar and daily super event we get more 7* shards than with 15k units for banquet crystals.
With mine 50 crystals I saw fragments, fragments.. then again fragments and in the end fragments again.

Now I'm gonna dream fragments

Repto23

Remember when we asked to not make the event worst just because you add a realm event. You said that you didn’t/wouldn’t but are now saying how you moved rewards from the crystals to all of the milestones. Which makes it harder for the average player to get anything of meaning. I am disappointed in this event.

BigBlueOx

I know many are point at the drop rates but I don’t think that’s the only problem. I find that the amounts are too small for the high value items with the current current drop rates. One or the other needed to be increased. Because 1% of T7b with a drop rate of 5% made that pointless. It ends up being a high value filler item.

Sig stone drops+amounts made far too low as well. Again felt like filler with the amounts available

I think the event is largely mid… it’s not that bad but it definitely didn’t live up to a 10 year celebration.

Also… I feel lied to about the realm even not robbing from the alliance and solo events. It clearly feels like this was done yet again… which then makes me wonder what else was nerfed for the realm event. Another one of these leaving a bad taste

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krystolix

We get pretty much the same rewards from daily valiant crystals. Before anyone says "you don't get iso, gold, or any of the .5% rewards from them" I got the same things I would from them. 76 bought crystals and It was stuff that a thronebreaker would be happy about. As a Valiant this was all filler and went to the overflow that I'll probably just sell, or wait for weeks to use for rank ups.
Of those 76 SBC's I got about 1800 t7. If I was to only get t7 from this event and no other event it would take over 60 years to form ONE t7 (I'll be long gone before that ONE is formed).... I didn't get enough to make a regular 7* crystal. And nothing of the special rewards even popped up.
I understand RNG is the reason, but 76 crystals should've had something cool in one of them...
Idk, maybe make crystals that are different for EACH progression level. Thronebreaker titled players shouldn't be with Valiant titled players.

Roth

Hey Summoners,

We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.

We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.

That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.

anyone can see that it’s well over “some” of us, it’s pretty much the majority of the community and no amount of gaslighting will hide it.

i HOPE this is acknowledged and you guys make it right.

YellowyHitman_2

You guys really dropped the ball on this so called “Grand” banquet event, from what I see from everyone else including content, creators that this event is not worth it, I’ve regret hyping this event.

Kabam, do better!

Yodabolt21

While the milestone rewards are great, mostly, in order to get those, you have to open very underwhelming crystals to get them. A LOT of them.

My personal opinion is that the amount of catalysts in these crystals are way over the top. As a valiant since almost the beginning, I have no issues acquiring catalysts from day to day play. Where I am still struggling is champion acquisition. I’ve opened 40+ SBC crystals, and I’ve been able to get 1 of the key champs (waste IMO), 3 basic 7* (which were all pointless sigs) and 0 titans. All but 5k of those shards came from milestones.I spent over 10k units and got 1 new champ (who I already have r5a as a 6*). What I do have though is 3 t4a expiring and a ton of t3a and t6b expiring. While RNG obviously plays a factor, the chances of getting a nexus 7* or the special selector are far too low. In addition, a base pool selector in the milestones (even if you had to spend 6k+ to get) would have been amazing. I now have to rank up champs that I don’t want to because that’s better than letting the catalysts expire.

It just feels that so much of these rewards are lacking for the hype, the amount we have to spend and the months spent grinding for units. While the previous iterations of the Banquet have been a lot of hype as well, this one seemed to be extra hyped as “better than ever” by the game team. It is not better than ever. It feels more like a Deadpoolies type of event than the “grand banquet” which so many look forward to every year.

I hope this feedback helps and while I expect it’s too late to do anything this year about it, hopefully it will be adjusted moving forward.

Tony886

Crystal drop rates was too low compare to rank up resources. I'm a Cavlier and i opened near 36 GBC and i got only 30k shards for 6* and zero nexus and rest of them was rank up resources if we get at least 1 nexus that would be great.

Owlkit

I think Kabam has to be careful with some of their messaging, I’ve noticed there have been more and more of, “Sorry the majority of you are upset but we’re happy with the actions that we’ve taken because we met our goal.” type of responses. It is off putting and comes across as a bit patronizing. I appreciate honesty but it can be stated differently.
This is second year in a row that the “vibes” around the banquet have been bad. So saying that “we met our goal” seems to say we don’t really put a lot of emphasis on the players feelings about the game. I don’t think that’s true but the optics make you think that way. I am not quite sure that is what Kabam wants, sour feelings after a very successful and fun 10 year anniversary celebration.
Obviously, the amount of money that is spent will be the true indicator of success but please be aware of the “goodwill” factor as well.
I just hope we make all the Realm Rewards.

TheUglyone123

Wassup Kabam team. I appreciate you opening up this avenue of communication to discuss feedback. The biggest problem is not the reward total, the realm event was a nice touch. I said this on another forum post. But we were promised on the livestream that there would be less filler in the crystal. However, the main reward in this crystal (highest likelihood item to receive) is t6cc FRAGMENTS, And less than we can get in other stores in game. This includes the rank up store, and the BG store.

This is textbook filler. The vast majority of circles that I interact with have only received/opened terrible rewards. This event was hyped as the grand banquet, an event to end all events, celebrating 10 years of the game, and the main way we interact with the event is lackluster.

Whether it’s compensation, or a tune up to the drop rates, I firmly believe that this would show the community that you care about the amount of time and effort we put into the game.

Side note, I do appreciate all that you do for the game and the amount of feedback you have to wade through.

Roth

With one word - Disrespectful
With monthly calendar and daily super event we get more 7* shards than with 15k units for banquet crystals.
With mine 50 crystals I saw fragments, fragments.. then again fragments and in the end fragments again.

Now I'm gonna dream fragments

dude! i didn’t even think of this, 3 days of daily super gave me more shards than 50 of the superior crystals i opened. shameful.

Solvseus

Last year I got Jessica, Thanos duped, Wolvie X and dupe, and another Kang. Spending less. Plus a bunch of other stuff. This year, I got some rocks:

I'm not even angry, I'm just disappointed...