Does Kabam value valiants?

_puy000_

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

_puy000_

I know this is long, so long story shot: Why do valiants but in the most time and effort into the game and yet still get the rewards throne breakers are getting? Would it really kill Kabam to make a reward locked behind the valiant progression? For example, a crystal only valiants can get for banquet.

Rachel_Oskar

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

DNA3000

_puy000_ said:

I know this is long, so long story shot: Why do valiants but in the most time and effort into the game and yet still get the rewards throne breakers are getting? Would it really kill Kabam to make a reward locked behind the valiant progression?

Of course not. That would be silly. The last time Crashed made a Valiant only reward it only put him into a deep depression, and it barely lasted a month.

_puy000_

Rachel_Oskar said:

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

Name one valiant exclusive event, and if the rewards were really what valiants needed. Non valiants getting good rewards isn’t the point. It’s valiants getting bad rewards that are good rewards for non valiants. It doesn’t feel right that they treat tb and paragons as kings while treating valiants as trash.

_puy000_

DNA3000 said:

_puy000_ said:

I know this is long, so long story shot: Why do valiants but in the most time and effort into the game and yet still get the rewards throne breakers are getting? Would it really kill Kabam to make a reward locked behind the valiant progression?

Of course not. That would be silly. The last time Crashed made a Valiant only reward it only put him into a deep depression, and it barely lasted a month.

So that gives him an excuse to make valiants work the most to get there and then demote them? Plus he’s going to get deep depression no matter what he does because of the community. Someone’s going to have something to complain about.

ContestOfNoobs

I’m already at 20 r3’s at this point it’s just getting rest of roster to r3’s as more materials become available.

Then the cycle repeats lol, r4 mats july 4th and a lot more r3’s in 2025.

Big difference from someone who just turn valiant and those who been valiant for awhile.

Pikolu

_puy000_ said:

Rachel_Oskar said:

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

Name one valiant exclusive event, and if the rewards were really what valiants needed. Non valiants getting good rewards isn’t the point. It’s valiants getting bad rewards that are good rewards for non valiants. It doesn’t feel right that they treat tb and paragons as kings while treating valiants as trash.

Cyber weekend and J4 was way better for valiants than anyone else. On cyber weekend, with moderate spending, I got like 8 r3s and I got a plethora of other things like titan nexus and titan crystals. Valiants also have almost pure access to refined XP and they can get more points on all seasons of pain quests. The extra points give nice rewards that Paragons cannot get and even gave more flexibility to those who just wanted 18 points for the deathless piece. Valiants also get an exclusive raid chest rewards. Just because banquet cares a lot less about progression (literally always have been that way) doesn't mean that kabam doesn't care about their top progression players.

The real thing you have to look out for is a new progression probably drops with 9.2 and would be guaranteed to require r4s of people, so Valiants are probably on their way to being the new Paragon anyways

EdisonLaw

Everyone needs to be perfectly treated, as all things should be

Terminatrix

If you haven't already, check out my post about this

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/384560/whats-the-point-of-progression-if-valiants-are-goin-to-be-lumped-in-with-lower-progression-levels#latest

_puy000_

EdisonLaw said:

Everyone needs to be perfectly treated, as all things should be

Agreed. I feel like most progression levels are perfectly treated, but valiants get the table scraps. I remember when I was tb and paragon half of a t4 alpha meant a lot, but now that I’m valiant I have a lot more rank 3s and half a t4 a doesn’t hold the same value. It’s not worth the sheer amount of units you have to spend to get one in the banquet event.

_puy000_

Pikolu said:

_puy000_ said:

Rachel_Oskar said:

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

Name one valiant exclusive event, and if the rewards were really what valiants needed. Non valiants getting good rewards isn’t the point. It’s valiants getting bad rewards that are good rewards for non valiants. It doesn’t feel right that they treat tb and paragons as kings while treating valiants as trash.

Cyber weekend and J4 was way better for valiants than anyone else. On cyber weekend, with moderate spending, I got like 8 r3s and I got a plethora of other things like titan nexus and titan crystals. Valiants also have almost pure access to refined XP and they can get more points on all seasons of pain quests. The extra points give nice rewards that Paragons cannot get and even gave more flexibility to those who just wanted 18 points for the deathless piece. Valiants also get an exclusive raid chest rewards. Just because banquet cares a lot less about progression (literally always have been that way) doesn't mean that kabam doesn't care about their top progression players.

The real thing you have to look out for is a new progression probably drops with 9.2 and would be guaranteed to require r4s of people, so Valiants are probably on their way to being the new Paragon anyways

I see your point. I think I’m just really fed up with how now they’re making tb late game. It wasn’t like this before and I don’t see why they’re doing it now.

I really hope you’re right about act 9.2. I’ve been anticipating it for a while now.

_puy000_

Terminatrix said:

If you haven't already, check out my post about this

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/384560/whats-the-point-of-progression-if-valiants-are-goin-to-be-lumped-in-with-lower-progression-levels#latest

Oh yeah, I do remember reading that. My bad. Yours got a lot more agrees than mine lol

captain_rogers

It's always TBs running with multiple r3s but not valiants running with multiple r4s lmao

THE_COLLECT0R

My alliance Leader is only TB 6.2.3 and is top 100 in the world for power rating. He has over 30 r3’s and spends so much on the game.

Demonzfyre

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Kabam hates everyone. They slap everyone in the face. Haven't you read all over the forums?

Demonzfyre

_puy000_ said:

I know this is long, so long story shot: Why do valiants but in the most time and effort into the game and yet still get the rewards throne breakers are getting? Would it really kill Kabam to make a reward locked behind the valiant progression? For example, a crystal only valiants can get for banquet.

I don't understand why you all think this way. Isn't just that TB is getting Valiant rewards? T6 mats are Valiant rewards. 7* sigs and AGs are Valiant rewards.

But more than anything, what is this obsession with what others are getting/doing in the game? Shouldn't you just worry about your account? Why does what others get for their accounts matter or affect you?

KLZ

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Man, you just became Valiant, calm down..

GinjabredMonsta

This same post is made every time with whatever the top progression is.

Demonzfyre

KLZ said:

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Man, you just became Valiant, calm down..

Wait... did they become valiant with the banquet rewards and materials? Lol, that's even better. So the "TB" rewards made them valiant lol goodness these forums are something else.

PT_99

The fact that not only TBs got same rewards as Valiants is bad
But what's disgusting is Kebem thinking this is something to celebrate,

Keep them away

KLZ

Demonzfyre said:

KLZ said:

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Man, you just became Valiant, calm down..

Wait... did they become valiant with the banquet rewards and materials? Lol, that's even better. So the "TB" rewards made them valiant lol goodness these forums are something else.

Probably in November, so before the Banquet, but still...
There are so many Valiants since last December, but they never complain so much...

PT_99

Rachel_Oskar said:

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

If other people gets stuff
I get less stuff

-- The Valiant

The_Doctor_24_1

As someone who has been Valiant for a while and been playing since 2017 I can confirm that newer players get stuff way too easy now. I started another account out of boredom and got 3 5* out of the gate without even finishing act 1.
That being said this sort of thing happens with games that have been out for a long time and doesn't bother me, I'm not really interested on how other players progress, but OP it's right, it would be nice to see an exclusive crystal or something for the highest level players. Mostly because I love free stuff

DNA3000

_puy000_ said:

Rachel_Oskar said:

As someone who just became Valiant, this is one of the only events in the game whose rewards are not progression based. Paragon rewards are so much less in comparison and TB rewards are even more of a pittance. Let Banquet be the exception. It always has been the great equalizer, during the holidays, where spending gets you the rewards you want. As I remind my kids, other people getting stuff does not hurt you. At the end of the event, non-Valiants will have a few stronger champs, but they'll still have **** rewards the rest of the year.

Name one valiant exclusive event, and if the rewards were really what valiants needed. Non valiants getting good rewards isn’t the point. It’s valiants getting bad rewards that are good rewards for non valiants. It doesn’t feel right that they treat tb and paragons as kings while treating valiants as trash.

If you want me to, I will on your behalf petition Kabam to reset your account to TB permanently. I'm serious. Just say the word.

SirGamesBond

I thought people will ignore the thread as it was made in bad faith. It looks more like a call for attention. I am The Valiant.
There was already a more elaborate thread on this by that cmm simping guy, there was absolutely no need to make this one.

_puy000_

THE_COLLECT0R said:

My alliance Leader is only TB 6.2.3 and is top 100 in the world for power rating. He has over 30 r3’s and spends so much on the game.

Exactly, he didn’t put in the work to push valiant and yet he still has more rank3s than most people.

_puy000_

Demonzfyre said:

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Kabam hates everyone. They slap everyone in the face. Haven't you read all over the forums?

Yeah I guess it’s nothing new

_puy000_

Demonzfyre said:

_puy000_ said:

I know this is long, so long story shot: Why do valiants but in the most time and effort into the game and yet still get the rewards throne breakers are getting? Would it really kill Kabam to make a reward locked behind the valiant progression? For example, a crystal only valiants can get for banquet.

I don't understand why you all think this way. Isn't just that TB is getting Valiant rewards? T6 mats are Valiant rewards. 7* sigs and AGs are Valiant rewards.

But more than anything, what is this obsession with what others are getting/doing in the game? Shouldn't you just worry about your account? Why does what others get for their accounts matter or affect you?

Because I put in the work for it and I get the same stuff as someone who didn’t. How is that in any way fair?

_puy000_

KLZ said:

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Man, you just became Valiant, calm down..

That’s not true. What made you think that?

_puy000_

Demonzfyre said:

KLZ said:

_puy000_ said:

It’s always lower progression that gets everything like “there’s going to be a lot of thronebreaker running around with rank 3s”. What about valiants? There will always be a new act for anyone below valiant to explore, so why do they get the good stuff in the events like banquet. They can always just push the next act to get the same rewards, but valiants can’t. Would it really be that hard to make something exclusive for valiants during event? For example, you could have a banquet crystal exclusive to valiants. This would make it to where valiants would get good rewards without making tb or paragons progress to quickly. Valiants have put in the most time and effort into the game, and it feels like Kabam doesn’t value that. I was thrilled to reach valiant a while back until I realized I get the same stuff at paragon, and there wasn’t any point to push. Please fix this Kabam. Would it really kill you to give valiants good rewards instead of tb rewards?

Man, you just became Valiant, calm down..

Wait... did they become valiant with the banquet rewards and materials? Lol, that's even better. So the "TB" rewards made them valiant lol goodness these forums are something else.

Don’t believe everything everyone says. I’ve been valiant for about a year.