Asking for Tier 1 Primordial Dust as a Valiant

Day 1 of asking for Tier 1 Primordial dust as a valiant player.

Either in rewards or somewhere in one of the in game stores.

Comments

Awesomep12

Agreed. Let us get lower resources!

SirGamesBond

They stopped it because players were ascending 4* and they don't want players to do that. That's the only logical reason I can deduce.

Usagicassidy

Right? It feels like nowadays I'm literally never even opening 3, 4, or 5* hero crystals. They're certainly not going to break the game for me as a valiant player, but I do like the extra ISO. C''mon, give us more resources.

dv99999

Can they listen ? BG store cut off lower resouces

Toproller89

They stopped it because players were ascending 4* and they don't want players to do that. That's the only logical reason I can deduce.

Well, an easy fix is to only let below a certain progression ascend their 4 stars and maybe thronebreaker and above only ascend 5 if that's the case.

I don't see how it's a major problem, I just really need the dust for my 5 star stark spiderman before I do the tale of 2 kangs quests, and I don't really feel like paying $40 USD for the ability to do that.

Low tier catalysts seem unnecessarily scarce as well, and I just don't see why that has to be so, it's like Kabam is dictating exactly how we should play the game by not giving summoners freedom to choose these lower rewards.

Like I said, if I have to sacrifice higher rewards then I'm fine with it, the rewards from side quests these days are normally pretty lacklustre anyway.

Rachel_Oskar

They stopped it because players were ascending 4* and they don't want players to do that. That's the only logical reason I can deduce.

What's the problem with ascending 4*s, if I may ask?

laserjohn26

They stopped it because players were ascending 4* and they don't want players to do that. That's the only logical reason I can deduce.
What's the problem with ascending 4*s, if I may ask?

Only thing i can think of is they dont want you doing the 4 star arena any quicker. Right now it takes me a little over 2 hours to get every milestone done unboosted. Ive put every t1 dust into the highest pi 4*. If i only used my ascended r4 and just came back every 2 hours on refreshes it would be closer to an hour of actual arena play i figure.

Dirty_Dozz

Right? It feels like nowadays I'm literally never even opening 3, 4, or 5* hero crystals. They're certainly not going to break the game for me as a valiant player, but I do like the extra ISO. C''mon, give us more resources.

100000% this. Not only from an ISO standpoint, but I personally would love to max out my lower roster, just for fun (Champs, Sigs, etc), but never getting Sig stones or opportunities to open lower level crystals has put a damper on that.

Friendly001

What’s wrong with ascending 4 stars? What other star level would you ascend?

Folkvangr

What’s wrong with ascending 4 stars? What other star level would you ascend?

As someone above said, it cuts the time needed to complete arena
There’s nothing “wrong” with that, but it isn’t convenient for kabam

Toproller89

What’s wrong with ascending 4 stars? What other star level would you ascend?
As someone above said, it cuts the time needed to complete arena
There’s nothing “wrong” with that, but it isn’t convenient for kabam

God forbid arena grinders get their milestones done faster and have more time to touch grass, lol

Java_Junkie

first my 5* sigs out of battlegrounds, now the t1 Dust. making it HARD for completionists to compulsively rank our lower rosters. o(

CandyCane2

They could put it in Event quest.

Hiddenfuture69

As a Valiant player, the last time I got tier 1 dust was during the crystal cleanse realm event. I don't rank up 6* anymore and have no use for tier 2 dust. I would gladly trade in the monthly 100 T2 dust for T1 dust. Please Kabam, at least give us a selector. Soon, the only way to get T1 will be from the updated sigil store.

ESF

You know, I really agree with this.

Mainly because I simply do not understand why it is an issue if, in a world where the game is completely in the 7-star cycle, if anyone chooses to invest in characters who are eligible for Tier 1 dust.

I am serious — I really would like to understand why anyone would care if someone wants to do that.

Again, maybe someone could explain this to me for a Game Economy standpoint, because I honestly don’t understand.

To me:

1. This game is about choices. If someone wants to sink gold and dust into a 4-star or 5-star, is there some kind of harm to the game economy? If so, then what, exactly, is the harm to the game economy? Is there some of content that someone isn’t supposed to be able to do with a 5r5A Magik that they couldn’t do with a 6r3 Doctor Doom?

2. Isn’t a large part of the game that it’s the choice of how you spend your resources that defines our rosters, not the complete lack of availability of a resource that you might want to use on your roster? I understand that if someone wants to buy Tier 1 dust, they can. But why is that a resource that can’t be earned in-game, just because of your progression? Is there any other resource that is locked like this?

I truly don’t understand it. I am not trying to be dense. If a higher-tier player wants to ascend a 5-star, what is the harm? Why would anyone care that people want to do this?

Toproller89

You know, I really agree with this.

Mainly because I simply do not understand why it is an issue if, in a world where the game is completely in the 7-star cycle, if anyone chooses to invest in characters who are eligible for Tier 1 dust.

I am serious — I really would like to understand why anyone would care if someone wants to do that.

Again, maybe someone could explain this to me for a Game Economy standpoint, because I honestly don’t understand.

To me:

1. This game is about choices. If someone wants to sink gold and dust into a 4-star or 5-star, is there some kind of harm to the game economy? If so, then what, exactly, is the harm to the game economy? Is there some of content that someone isn’t supposed to be able to do with a 5r5A Magik that they couldn’t do with a 6r3 Doctor Doom?

2. Isn’t a large part of the game that it’s the choice of how you spend your resources that defines our rosters, not the complete lack of availability of a resource that you might want to use on your roster? I understand that if someone wants to buy Tier 1 dust, they can. But why is that a resource that can’t be earned in-game, just because of your progression? Is there any other resource that is locked like this?

I truly don’t understand it. I am not trying to be dense. If a higher-tier player wants to ascend a 5-star, what is the harm? Why would anyone care that people want to do this?

That is 100% my view on this whole issue.

I know for a lot of summoners, it doesn't really matter too much, but It kind of bugs me that Kabam is steering things in a way that is encouraging everyone to not only all reach valiant quite quickly, but they seem to be pushing everyone to rank the same characters up, and to approach the game in a particular way.

I feel like I have less autonomy to play the game the way i would like to, and for me, that's going to make things boring rather quickly.

My request to get Tier 1 dust back to the game also applies to lower tier resources such as 5 star shards and sig stones and also lower cats that Kabam have decided to remove from the Battlegrounds store.

I think ill stick with one thing for now, i don't expect Kabam to listen to just me, but if enough people want it, they might do something.

ESF

You know, I really agree with this.

Mainly because I simply do not understand why it is an issue if, in a world where the game is completely in the 7-star cycle, if anyone chooses to invest in characters who are eligible for Tier 1 dust.

I am serious — I really would like to understand why anyone would care if someone wants to do that.

Again, maybe someone could explain this to me for a Game Economy standpoint, because I honestly don’t understand.

To me:

1. This game is about choices. If someone wants to sink gold and dust into a 4-star or 5-star, is there some kind of harm to the game economy? If so, then what, exactly, is the harm to the game economy? Is there some of content that someone isn’t supposed to be able to do with a 5r5A Magik that they couldn’t do with a 6r3 Doctor Doom?

2. Isn’t a large part of the game that it’s the choice of how you spend your resources that defines our rosters, not the complete lack of availability of a resource that you might want to use on your roster? I understand that if someone wants to buy Tier 1 dust, they can. But why is that a resource that can’t be earned in-game, just because of your progression? Is there any other resource that is locked like this?

I truly don’t understand it. I am not trying to be dense. If a higher-tier player wants to ascend a 5-star, what is the harm? Why would anyone care that people want to do this?

That is 100% my view on this whole issue.

I know for a lot of summoners, it doesn't really matter too much, but It kind of bugs me that Kabam is steering things in a way that is encouraging everyone to not only all reach valiant quite quickly, but they seem to be pushing everyone to rank the same characters up, and to approach the game in a particular way.

I feel like I have less autonomy to play the game the way i would like to, and for me, that's going to make things boring rather quickly.

My request to get Tier 1 dust back to the game also applies to lower tier resources such as 5 star shards and sig stones and also lower cats that Kabam have decided to remove from the Battlegrounds store.

I think ill stick with one thing for now, i don't expect Kabam to listen to just me, but if enough people want it, they might do something.

The thing that I just can’t work through to understanding is if a Paragon/Valiant player wants to ascend a 5-star for fun or testing, what it would possibly be doing to the game to hurt it — they are already into Act 8/9. They’re not using 5r5A to cheese anything that they don’t already have the roster to do, right? Am I crazy for looking at it like that?

Same with the 5-star shards and Sig stones. I’m just speaking for myself, but I only rank 5-stars for fun. Just testing the kits. It’s not helping me to actually DO anything in the game to clear content. It was fun collecting a few of them and taking some to 5r5A Sig 200, but it wasn’t actually helping me to really do anything, with where I am in the game and who I am typically fighting in BGs, and I am not even at the highest levels of the game.

I agree that playing the game the way you want to is really important, because yes, players should probably be interested in progression. But again, that loops right back to where you started: If you’re Paragon or Valiant, why does anyone care if you ascend a 5-star?

It’s just a riddle that I can’t solve

Defender_dawn2

They also removed lower tier items from bg store
They said it would be moved somewhere else but still no update

Toproller89

They also removed lower tier items from bg store
They said it would be moved somewhere else but still no update

I hope that we may have some answers on next stream. Whenever that drops.

TotemCorruption

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?

dv99999

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?

It seems that the game designer guys have not even playing this game, just designing a beautiful items and making money, can not feel what happened

Ansh_A

You know, I really agree with this.

Mainly because I simply do not understand why it is an issue if, in a world where the game is completely in the 7-star cycle, if anyone chooses to invest in characters who are eligible for Tier 1 dust.

I am serious — I really would like to understand why anyone would care if someone wants to do that.

Again, maybe someone could explain this to me for a Game Economy standpoint, because I honestly don’t understand.

To me:

1. This game is about choices. If someone wants to sink gold and dust into a 4-star or 5-star, is there some kind of harm to the game economy? If so, then what, exactly, is the harm to the game economy? Is there some of content that someone isn’t supposed to be able to do with a 5r5A Magik that they couldn’t do with a 6r3 Doctor Doom?

2. Isn’t a large part of the game that it’s the choice of how you spend your resources that defines our rosters, not the complete lack of availability of a resource that you might want to use on your roster? I understand that if someone wants to buy Tier 1 dust, they can. But why is that a resource that can’t be earned in-game, just because of your progression? Is there any other resource that is locked like this?

I truly don’t understand it. I am not trying to be dense. If a higher-tier player wants to ascend a 5-star, what is the harm? Why would anyone care that people want to do this?

That is 100% my view on this whole issue.

I know for a lot of summoners, it doesn't really matter too much, but It kind of bugs me that Kabam is steering things in a way that is encouraging everyone to not only all reach valiant quite quickly, but they seem to be pushing everyone to rank the same characters up, and to approach the game in a particular way.

I feel like I have less autonomy to play the game the way i would like to, and for me, that's going to make things boring rather quickly.

My request to get Tier 1 dust back to the game also applies to lower tier resources such as 5 star shards and sig stones and also lower cats that Kabam have decided to remove from the Battlegrounds store.

I think ill stick with one thing for now, i don't expect Kabam to listen to just me, but if enough people want it, they might do something.
The thing that I just can’t work through to understanding is if a Paragon/Valiant player wants to ascend a 5-star for fun or testing, what it would possibly be doing to the game to hurt it — they are already into Act 8/9. They’re not using 5r5A to cheese anything that they don’t already have the roster to do, right? Am I crazy for looking at it like that?

Same with the 5-star shards and Sig stones. I’m just speaking for myself, but I only rank 5-stars for fun. Just testing the kits. It’s not helping me to actually DO anything in the game to clear content. It was fun collecting a few of them and taking some to 5r5A Sig 200, but it wasn’t actually helping me to really do anything, with where I am in the game and who I am typically fighting in BGs, and I am not even at the highest levels of the game.

I agree that playing the game the way you want to is really important, because yes, players should probably be interested in progression. But again, that loops right back to where you started: If you’re Paragon or Valiant, why does anyone care if you ascend a 5-star?

It’s just a riddle that I can’t solve

I am with OP, i am a valiant player who still wants to ascend some 5*s. I like having a large roster and have tested and created an excel sheet of those champs as 5*s that i will not rank the 6* version because i use the champ too infrequently and will wait for the 7* to drop to take that champ up.

On that list i have Professor X, Longshot, Starky, Shang Chi and Galan. I want to ascend Longshot and Starky but not enough T1 dust is dropping. I dont understand why Kabam is controlling this for those of us using it for intended purposes. Give players the choice.

Rayven5220

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?

It's called reward selectors for EQ.
Especially given EQ nor the SQ rewards are Valiant level rewards anyways.

Also a huge difference than a Valiant spending 10+k units and parsgon doing the same then a TB doing the same and getting the exact same rewards.

Toproller89

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?

Possibly, what that thread has to do with this one, however I’m not sure.

Magrailothos

Putting in my vote (as a Valiant) for: I'd love more T1 dust.

Like others, it's primarily for testing out new champs as 5*s, although occasionally there's a champ I simply don't have at a higher rarity who is an absolute necessity for content like Summer of Pain/Autumn of Agony/Carina's challenges whatever.

If there's a really restrictive #tag option, and the best option is someone I literally only have as a 5*, it would be really helpful to have more Tier 1 Dust.

Case in point: Lagacy's challenge to defeat Kang specifically with a 5* Stark-enhanced Spidey. I mean it really doesn't get much more restrictive than that, right?

Not to mention 5* trophy champs like Labtron and Punisher - I really like Punisher as a champion, so when I finally got him a month or so back, I was really glad I'd hoarded some dust for him.

Vanta

Give back lower resources and increase rewards from daily quests, hasn't been updated since 2020.

ESF

Putting in my vote (as a Valiant) for: I'd love more T1 dust.

Like others, it's primarily for testing out new champs as 5*s, although occasionally there's a champ I simply don't have at a higher rarity who is an absolute necessity for content like Summer of Pain/Autumn of Agony/Carina's challenges whatever.

If there's a really restrictive #tag option, and the best option is someone I literally only have as a 5*, it would be really helpful to have more Tier 1 Dust.

Case in point: Lagacy's challenge to defeat Kang specifically with a 5* Stark-enhanced Spidey. I mean it really doesn't get much more restrictive than that, right?

Not to mention 5* trophy champs like Labtron and Punisher - I really like Punisher as a champion, so when I finally got him a month or so back, I was really glad I'd hoarded some dust for him.

Not to derail, but Mags: I am totally jealous of that one. 10-plus years now and I just cannot get that guy. It’s not the biggest reason I stopped grinding Arena, but opening all the Arena crystals I have over the years and NEVER getting this guy at 5/6-star — definitely was frustrating

Sebi1234

would also like to see some way to get T1 dust in the BG store or the Glory store. I mean it does not hurt anyone to give those out and helps with various things. Unfortunatly the only time we could get T1 dust was in a time we had to spend it or it ran out. never have I seen T1 dust again

TotemCorruption

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?
Possibly, what that thread has to do with this one, however I’m not sure.

Well if you put the two opposite demands together, you get this: "As Valiants, we want all of the rewards that are offered to lower progression players, but also valuable high-end rewards that are not available to lower progression players. Basically, we want everything."

Toproller89

Isn't there another giant thread where people are complaining about the exact opposite issue, i.e., that the game doesn't account for the specific high-end needs of valiants and instead offers them the same rewards as lower progression players?
Possibly, what that thread has to do with this one, however I’m not sure.
Well if you put the two opposite demands together, you get this: "As Valiants, we want all of the rewards that are offered to lower progression players, but also valuable high-end rewards that are not available to lower progression players. Basically, we want everything."

Cool, im not making the aforementioned demand though, I just want my T1 Dust.

The other valiants who are arguing about things they want that are high value don’t speak for me, my man.

Criticising my thread because of the demands of others isn’t fair.