We seem to be Going In the Wrong Direction…

There are numerous bugs, visual glitches, and other items that it has reached a point where I think emergency maintenance is more than warranted. The game is laggy, and visually hard to look at. And on top of this, the team has decided to hamstring the amount of revives summoner’s can take into raids. It’s decisions like this that truly has me scratching my head. I would love to hear a game team member give the thought process behind making something that was widely enjoyed (generally) in raids, and making it harder by limiting the amount of grace we get fighting these bosses who also have a damage cap. Typically, I am under the impression that games should be challenging, but give its players multiple and creative ways to strategize through how to solve the difficult problem. This is limiting players creativity and makes raids extremely punishing.

It seems that decisions are being made and updates are getting pushed out without the player base in mind. Why are some of these things not getting tested? Are they just slipping through the cracks or do we have people just letting these updates go through knowing they are broken? There has to be some kind of accountability at this stage due to the sheer amount of issues and anti-player decisions being made.

What do y’all think? Fire away

Comments

captain_rogers

I'm not at all concerned about raid changes, but the fact that out of all these bugs, they gave priority to this small stupid negative qol change is beyond surprise for me.

P4L

Scum, they hid it in the mail too.

TheUglyone123

I'm not at all concerned about raid changes, but the fact that out of all these bugs, they gave priority to this small stupid negative qol change is beyond surprise for me.

That’s the gist of what I was saying. It just seems like out of all the announcements they could have made, telling the community they were cutting our raid revives from 7 to 1 was the worst one. There are so many game breaking problems and instead they make a decision that will only inflame the community more.

kvirr

it seems to be that the game hasn’t had a good 2025 start, we can only hope for better. As you said things aren’t looking good, which makes me sort of concerned for the future of the game, yet we still have till the end of this week where we might end up seeing a comeback with the hotfix, if not, then some serious game maintenance will be needing to take place, otherwise we will end up with marvel contest of bugs, where you can’t play without a glitch.

I hope this game doesn’t go anywhere.

KabamPinwheel

Scum, they hid it in the mail too.

It was posted to the website and should have been here simultaneously but the post was delayed. Nothing underhanded there, just me getting mixed up on timing.

TotemCorruption

I'm not at all concerned about raid changes, but the fact that out of all these bugs, they gave priority to this small stupid negative qol change is beyond surprise for me.
There are so many game breaking problems and instead they make a decision that will only inflame the community more.

Annoyed? Sure. Inflamed? That seems extreme. Are you Torch? Are you at "max temperature"? Have some patience.

BringPopcorn

Call me crazy but since December or close to it... I really don't look forward to anything in the game, nothing excites me, or see any major inteseting change...
Oh well...

TheUglyone123

I'm not at all concerned about raid changes, but the fact that out of all these bugs, they gave priority to this small stupid negative qol change is beyond surprise for me.
There are so many game breaking problems and instead they make a decision that will only inflame the community more.
Annoyed? Sure. Inflamed? That seems extreme. Are you Torch? Are you at "max temperature"? Have some patience.

Very funny. I would definitely say I am at medium temperature at this stage. And I would say that was me trying to communicate a point while being slightly irritated at the volume of bugs in this game at the moment. I think inflame is spot on in describing how Kabam is making decisions. They are making game decisions that are making people more upset, not less.

SlayerOfGods

What a joke

Raganator

When Raids rolled out: "Raids are something new and different. An alternative to AQ."

Now: "We want raids to function like AQ."

BringPopcorn

A new year resolution I had was keeping a healthier diet, went to a nutritionist and set up a diet, he increased the ammount of flber in my diet. More fiber equals to more 🚽 time, and weird enough I am playing less MCoC... Bad Kabam bad!!

Usagicassidy

I stay this with no amount of hyperbolie, but the game is in the worst state it has ever been in.

Numerous bugs and visual glitches, lag for particular fights and champions, the newest update combined with 60fps makes intercepting heavily unreliable, the decision to nearly stagnate champion rebalancing, Valiants stuck with Thronebreaker-level rewards which are outdated even for Thronebreakers, Relics, it goes on.

We desperately need better communication and timelines, and just results.

DrFunnyguy

Scum, they hid it in the mail too.
It was posted to the website and should have been here simultaneously but the post was delayed. Nothing underhanded there, just me getting mixed up on timing.

I just love how he only answered for the part of the problem that's the least disturbing to the player base. Don't talk about the glitches, the lag, the screen getting completely blown out, or why they decided to make raids harder without improvements in rewards...

The disconnect between player base and game development team is massive!

EdisonLaw

What a joke

Truly one of the changes of all time

Darkness275

For most people, after the novelty of RAIDS wore off, it became something we enjoyed because it was a break from AQ. It was an okay challenge, not horrible rewards, but it was something we could blitz as an Alliance and then not think about for the rest of the week.

Now, that is being taken away from us.

Inventory reduction of about 28%. Almost guaranteed to keep your champion locked into RAIDS for the week and rewards aren't even being increased.

More difficulty by value of fewer resources, more inconvenience and absolutely no upside.

Honestly, Kabam won a lot of good will with their final response to the Banquet. But this? This isn't a good look.

leviddleton

What a joke

“You summoners all having a good time with raids??? Fantastic, we did our best to design something fun for everyone!
Ok, well that’s enough of that, now bend over and take this like a champ!”

Toproller89

Kabam basically saying get gud, skill issue with the revive change lol

Bosley

Scum, they hid it in the mail too.
It was posted to the website and should have been here simultaneously but the post was delayed. Nothing underhanded there, just me getting mixed up on timing.

Lowering the inventory is most definitely underhanded. The game hasn't been fair for the players in years.....

Giantwalrus56

I stay this with no amount of hyperbolie, but the game is in the worst state it has ever been in.

Numerous bugs and visual glitches, lag for particular fights and champions, the newest update combined with 60fps makes intercepting heavily unreliable, the decision to nearly stagnate champion rebalancing, Valiants stuck with Thronebreaker-level rewards which are outdated even for Thronebreakers, Relics, it goes on.

We desperately need better communication and timelines, and just results.

Unfortunately, you're right. I've been playing since 2017 & in that time I've seen countless posts talking about lag, bugs, & many other issues. I'm either extremely lucky or something, but I never really had many issues. That was until recently. The past month(s) have been really awful. There's no way to sugarcoat it. I understand bugs & the like happen, but it just sucks.Not to mention, all you listed. It seems/feels as we've become an afterthought. Somethings got to give...

ThēMandalorian

I said this in a previous thread, but it was a small thread not many saw. So I'm going to reiterate it here for agreement with O.P.

Sometimes I feel like Kabam really likes, enjoys and relishes being despised by the community.

Ever since Banquet, the Ls this company continues to take and have is almost like they are speedrunning how to become the most hated within their community.

Nothing that has been done since Banquet has been positive for the player base (in my opinion, though that also seems to be backed by the majority of said community).

Bugs that have delayed War Season - except that one that was pro-player with reverse controls in Cap. Britain fight; that was fixed pretty quick as it should have been IMHO.

Sigil gone for 2 weeks but taking away everything that people have paid multiple years for every 30 days so this game feels worse instead of maybe trying to entice new subscribers with the QoL improvements like Quick Arenas and increased inventory for all before new Sigil arrives in 2 weeks.

Changing Raid Revives for no other reason than what can be perceived as greed and/or not liking that Alliances can do their entire RAIDS in a few days maximum. Which if that's the case, goes completely against Kabam stating not long ago they are trying to be more respectful of the players time within the game and completing Alliance events.

The 6-star Awakening Gem for +1 7-star Sig Stone being so far below the game economy Kabam set up, that we are being told (by those who like this change) "at least it's something" or "you don't HAVE to do it". That's not the point, the feedback is meant to show how it's in no way close to a 1:1 ratio. Want proof? Look at the Monthly Solo Milestones and see that the final has been (for many months) a 6-star Generic Awakening Gem. If that showed +1 7-star Signature Stone, the community would revolt, and rightfully so. Especially since you can get +1 Signature Stone Crystal DAILY from the Super Daily Event as a Valiant player.

Imjust disappointed in Kabam, especially after it has been about making sure they are communicating but having all this happen over past weeks which feels like out of the blue and a slap on the face to many of your loyal playerbase.

I'm not speaking about this in a personal point of view but overall in the community for many and what I would even state the MAJORITY of MCOC players.

Do better Kabam, please. You make it so hard to cheer you on and celebrate all the great things you did in 2024 when you've ruined them all with being the Kabam we try to forget as being negative towards the playerbase over the past 30 days.

- Mando

Dernick

Ok. So I am punished because I was able to safe some revs to next raid. I am giving up. This is realy stupid decison. And lets bring it up to the new raid 1.3 and do it even harder to adapt for this new raid. 🤯

JMORG1111

I can't wait until next week's Raids. They have yet to release one that hasn't been bugged on the initial release, so I'm sure this has been properly vetted and in no way will require additional work.

laserjohn26

The problem is for alliances who like to spend a weeks worth of time the first day to clear it all. The time spent doesnt change. Its just all at once. You had to bank the revivies at some point. Then you have 14 on day 1. Can finish. And start the next raid with 14 on day 1. If you need more than the normal amount then you wont have any to carry over. Between this and getting shafted on arena express for two weeks is the worst mcoc day since the moleman nerf.

FishSkin

I don’t get it.

They changed the amount you can carry over from 7 to 1 - what is there to be so upset about?

If you can currently finish a raid having 7 revives left, you are clearly good enough in raids. Or maybe you weren’t doing your fair share - and using the extra carry over to attempt to put in a decent score every other month?

If you weren’t already spending units, I don’t see how this inventory cap reduction will change that.

Seriously, who opened the floodgates to all these whinge-bags?

BringPopcorn

Out of curiosity, is there any Pro player move planned in the near future? Cause so far its been a downer after downer.....

FishSkin

I said this in a previous thread, but it was a small thread not many saw. So I'm going to reiterate it here for agreement with O.P.

Sometimes I feel like Kabam really likes, enjoys and relishes being despised by the community.

Ever since Banquet, the Ls this company continues to take and have is almost like they are speedrunning how to become the most hated within their community.

Nothing that has been done since Banquet has been positive for the player base (in my opinion, though that also seems to be backed by the majority of said community).

Bugs that have delayed War Season - except that one that was pro-player with reverse controls in Cap. Britain fight; that was fixed pretty quick as it should have been IMHO.

Sigil gone for 2 weeks but taking away everything that people have paid multiple years for every 30 days so this game feels worse instead of maybe trying to entice new subscribers with the QoL improvements like Quick Arenas and increased inventory for all before new Sigil arrives in 2 weeks.

Changing Raid Revives for no other reason than what can be perceived as greed and/or not liking that Alliances can do their entire RAIDS in a few days maximum. Which if that's the case, goes completely against Kabam stating not long ago they are trying to be more respectful of the players time within the game and completing Alliance events.

The 6-star Awakening Gem for +1 7-star Sig Stone being so far below the game economy Kabam set up, that we are being told (by those who like this change) "at least it's something" or "you don't HAVE to do it". That's not the point, the feedback is meant to show how it's in no way close to a 1:1 ratio. Want proof? Look at the Monthly Solo Milestones and see that the final has been (for many months) a 6-star Generic Awakening Gem. If that showed +1 7-star Signature Stone, the community would revolt, and rightfully so. Especially since you can get +1 Signature Stone Crystal DAILY from the Super Daily Event as a Valiant player.

Imjust disappointed in Kabam, especially after it has been about making sure they are communicating but having all this happen over past weeks which feels like out of the blue and a slap on the face to many of your loyal playerbase.

I'm not speaking about this in a personal point of view but overall in the community for many and what I would even state the MAJORITY of MCOC players.

Do better Kabam, please. You make it so hard to cheer you on and celebrate all the great things you did in 2024 when you've ruined them all with being the Kabam we try to forget as being negative towards the playerbase over the past 30 days.

- Mando

All of your points have been addressed one way or another, and so many times.

The problem is, the “kascammers” aren’t happy with the answers they get, so they respond by littering the forums with the exact same drivel.

You don’t speak for the community, nor the majority of MCOC players.

JESUSCHRIST

MAKE MCOC GREAT AGAIN!!

Syndicated

Seriously, i can't get why Kabam is not worried about summoners Fun, can't get why the Game gets bugged from months without a solution, can't get why the Game is getting this state after 10 years.

Cpt_Awesomeo55

Man; I really liked the aq break that we got by finishing raids early. Now it's gonna feel just like normal aq. Logging in more for raids is not what the player base wanted

JMORG1111

I don’t get it.

They changed the amount you can carry over from 7 to 1 - what is there to be so upset about?

If you can currently finish a raid having 7 revives left, you are clearly good enough in raids. Or maybe you weren’t doing your fair share - and using the extra carry over to attempt to put in a decent score every other month?

If you weren’t already spending units, I don’t see how this inventory cap reduction will change that.

Seriously, who opened the floodgates to all these whinge-bags?

It's not about the cap reduction. There isn't a reason for the change other than "people finished too fast". That is not a negative thing to the player base.

I don't use the extra seven and have led my alliance in points almost every month. I have had to use them two times. Once when an alliance mate went down the wrong path before they were gated and he needed a carry. Second time was when they switched opponents and had a ton of issues on launch. Both times having a few extra revives was a great benefit that saved hundreds of the games most valuable resource. Units that is, not time.