So there really isn’t any “punishment” for not pushing in a BG meta
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Last VT meta just sucked for me and my roster. First time I didn’t push to vibranium since the Deathless Guillotine piece was added to the rewards (just became habit really 🤷♂️)
I was worried that it would cost me ages longer in grind this season, for context i finished the season still somewhere in Diamond
Turns out that’s not true. The matchmaking system doesn’t care about anything other than what VT rank you’re in, so I just got walkovers and forfeits for every game I’ve played today. I’m not gonna lie, it isn’t really *fun*. Sure it’s easy rewards, but it feels like I’m just wasting my time, and that of my opponents.
I get that it’s a solo competitive mode, but myself and other summoners have been saying for a while that seeing as the VT is basically “unranked”, instead just a bull source of rewards, there doesn’t seem a super strong argument against implementing some “fairer” matchmaking system. Maybe taking into account a combination of prestige and base hero rating to match summoners more evenly, until they get to the GC, which should absolutely be biggest/best player wins with pure rank based matchmaking.
I was worried that it would cost me ages longer in grind this season, for context i finished the season still somewhere in Diamond
Turns out that’s not true. The matchmaking system doesn’t care about anything other than what VT rank you’re in, so I just got walkovers and forfeits for every game I’ve played today. I’m not gonna lie, it isn’t really *fun*. Sure it’s easy rewards, but it feels like I’m just wasting my time, and that of my opponents.
I get that it’s a solo competitive mode, but myself and other summoners have been saying for a while that seeing as the VT is basically “unranked”, instead just a bull source of rewards, there doesn’t seem a super strong argument against implementing some “fairer” matchmaking system. Maybe taking into account a combination of prestige and base hero rating to match summoners more evenly, until they get to the GC, which should absolutely be biggest/best player wins with pure rank based matchmaking.
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Keep asking though, I’m sure one day you’ll convince someone. All it will take is for all the developers involved in the decision making process to retire or move to Pluto, and someone with zero prior experience with the game to take over control of production. So definitely not no chance at all.
More to the subject, I've tried to die on this hill many times and I'd say this is correct. There isn't a more fair system. There's also no way to police people not playing.
Small accounts stay down, seems fair to me.
The only way to eliminate the issue of players slumming in lower VT is to never send them there. Once someone "proves" they belong in GC, they don't go back to VT. Once someone proves they belong in Platinum they don't go back to Silver. But this creates issues for how rewards are earned in the game mode, and there is a problem specific to VT involving ratcheting.
Imagine someone is a relatively weak player, but they are willing to expend a lot of effort to grind all the way up to say Vibranium 4. If we never send them any lower than that, they could theoretically park there foreever and collect all the VT rewards from bronze to V4 by just doing a few matches every season. This is due to the fact that promotion in VT happens *both* due to competitive strength (the ability to win against the competition) and grinding (even if you are weaker than the people around you, you can still promote due to the 2-1 trophy rule and just by virtue of luck). A player who is "naturally" about as strong as the typical Gold 3 player is at the end of the typical season can grind their way to Vibranium and forever more earn those rewards even though they could not normally qualify for them in a reasonable amount of time.
Without demotion you encourage players to grind and then park. With demotion players necessarily drop lower than their intrinsic strength. It is non-trivial to solve both problems simultaneously, and that's due to the very nature of VT which was intended to reward participation, and not just pure competition. This is not something the devs are likely to tamper with trivially, as it could destroy participation in the game mode.