Ares the new interesting boss

StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
in General Discussion
Yes interesting, you read right !

Ok he is a pain in the .... when you have to fight him for the first 30-40 times but i must admit the fights were really nice to do, i even get accustomed to guess which SP he will use to destroy me !

Well, after lots of errors, wrong SP guess, bad timings, i did manage to do the right actions and survive those nasty SP Ares used.

Now i wonder if it could be possible, for those having 100% finished the Epoch of pain to get the possibility to practice Ares (without doing path again and without rewards, just for fun) or if we could encounter him again in RAIDs or any other content ?

Comments

  • Phantøm_EchøPhantøm_Echø Member Posts: 158 ★★★
    Kabam said he would be a recurring endgame boss. I doubt they give us a practice map however, as that would make it easier for everyone to practice when he comes back around.
  • HendrossHendross Member Posts: 966 ★★★
    Just wait til they randomize the attacks in each special
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,297 Guardian
    Phantøm_Echø said:

    Kabam said he would be a recurring endgame boss. I doubt they give us a practice map however, as that would make it easier for everyone to practice when he comes back around.

    They also said that he would come back differently too, so I wouldn't expect the same Ares ever again personally.
  • Phantøm_EchøPhantøm_Echø Member Posts: 158 ★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:

    Kabam said he would be a recurring endgame boss. I doubt they give us a practice map however, as that would make it easier for everyone to practice when he comes back around.

    They also said that he would come back differently too, so I wouldn't expect the same Ares ever again personally.
    Sure, but his core mechanics will likely stay the same, I doubt they scratch the mechanics behind his special which are core to his design. Likely they just juice him up with nodes that add another variable to account for, disqualifies certain characters that can be used, or potentially change the special prompting.
  • FeydRauthaFeydRautha Member Posts: 215 ★★★
    Hendross said:

    Just wait til they randomize the attacks in each special

    With Reversed Controls! Fun for the whole family.
  • gannicus0830gannicus0830 Member Posts: 704 ★★★★
    I've completed it once, and I honestly never want to see that BS GD boss again, let alone 5 more times.
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
    Hendross said:

    Just wait til they randomize the attacks in each special

    That's already the case with Isophyne where she can throw either SP while she have 2 bars of power
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
    FeydRautha said:

    Hendross said:

    Just wait til they randomize the attacks in each special

    With Reversed Controls! Fun for the whole family.
    No that would be really too much. The fight is not an easy one but you can get accustomed to it given time even if the majority of us will not oneshot Ares. With reversed controls, it will only bring frustration in a fight where we can still find some fun
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,684 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Imagine how funny it would be if there was a whole quest that just had a path of 6 Ares on it each with a different kit and different patterns for their specials. That would be brutal but interesting.

    The Crucible of Ares?
  • BuggyDClownBuggyDClown Member Posts: 2,533 ★★★★★
    Everyone is gangster until Ares walks in with Safeguard node
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,586 ★★★★★
    FeydRautha said:

    Hendross said:

    Just wait til they randomize the attacks in each special

    With Reversed Controls! Fun for the whole family.
    Nah nah,
    Ares obviously needs reverse reversed controls like 1% HP Necro GM had 🤣
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 6,263 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Imagine how funny it would be if there was a whole quest that just had a path of 6 Ares on it each with a different kit and different patterns for their specials. That would be brutal but interesting.

    I like where you are heading.
    We can throw Abyss Collector somewhere in there. (BOOM Ambush, Suprise m...)
  • GrabmeMCOCGrabmeMCOC Member Posts: 129 ★★
    edited February 25
    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health, so the potions that are used are borderline pointless. This is done so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,128 ★★★★
    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health options so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    It was terrible for me too but the more I did fight Ares the more I was able to manage the fight !

    I think that would be nice to have him as another boss elsewhere or even a slightly different playable version like Maestro

  • GrabmeMCOCGrabmeMCOC Member Posts: 129 ★★
    Stellar said:

    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health options so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    It was terrible for me too but the more I did fight Ares the more I was able to manage the fight !

    I think that would be nice to have him as another boss elsewhere or even a slightly different playable version like Maestro

    He needs to be somewhere for people to practice against. They should open a direct path to him upon 100%.

    If they insist on using him as a reoccurring boss people need to be able to practice.
  • ButtehrsButtehrs Member Posts: 7,120 ★★★★★
    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health, so the potions that are used are borderline pointless. This is done so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    To be completely fair here, where else exactly are exactly gonna use those revives? Monthly eq/sq? Story? Or, wait, stuff like epoch.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 6,263 ★★★★★
    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health, so the potions that are used are borderline pointless. This is done so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    Do you think, the remaining 95% of us enjoyed fighting abyss collector? Im only asking people like us who explored abyss.
    (Let's not include the modders, kabam was way too lenient with modders, every single modder started their account with abyss smh, shame on kabam for those times, modders gonna mod anyway)
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 8,746 ★★★★★
    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health, so the potions that are used are borderline pointless. This is done so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    I found it fun even on the first round to the 6th as dying to random special is frustrating but it doesnt have the pain point of other bosses where u dont want to fight again (abyss collector) this fight u want to continue as its enjoyable of a fight its cool to learn the mechanic is cool design
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 759 ★★★★
    Ive only fought him once and all i can say is BEST BOSS BY FAR. I'VE NEVER ENJOYED A BOSS FIGHT as much as I did ares. He's literally the main reason I'm doing epoch now, the rewards are second priority honestly. I would love a free ares mode like ROL where I can destroy him till I get bored.

    I messed up during the first phase as the attacks were very slow so I was getting hit alot during specials but once I got down the rhythm, I never got hit by a special again as I was able to guess correctly each time, never got hit by the acts of aggression etc. It was such a nice experience. I only used one team revive. The final phase was not as scary as I thought it'd be.
    I really loved this fight and the designer did a VERY GREAT JOB.

    I do however think the mini bosses are the hardest part of the entire quest alongside the linked node combinations but yes, this quest was INDEED a revive farm.

    I didn't jump into it immediately and made sure i was ready and had the sp patterns imprinted into my brain, watched lots of videos, even practiced. I think that's what made it easy for me. I took my time before jumping in.

    I found the grandmaster to be the hardest boss in the game and ares (so far) the most enjoyable.
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,393 ★★★★
    GrabmeMCOC said:

    I just think people are lying. It’s not fun at all and Kabam need to hear that instead of post completion revisionism to sound edgy.

    I’ve fully explored it. It’s was terrible. Terrible design that is pure and simply about getting us to spend units and real money. It’s designed so when you are 15 revives in and hundreds of units down the drain you have no option but to continue, or give up your resources.

    The Ai is not co-operative, they removed the option to intercept at 30%. They degen your health, so the potions that are used are borderline pointless. This is done so you cannot survive a mistake. The fight itself is boring. There is no variation to the fight. Bait heavy, punish. Trigger special and hope for the best.

    Yes there are people who have mastered it. Well done to them. 95% of the rest of us have to brute force it.

    And what do we get at the end? A skill rank up gem. Quite simply the worst of them all. Couldn’t even get a selector or generic, id have preferred 1 x T7B.

    Regardless, my sig 200 Xbones is happy, even if I’m not.

    Of all the problems in the fight, AI was not one
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