Anyone else not excited for Phoenix Buff after looking at their list of OP Incinerate champs already
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Jean Grey is one of my favorite characters ever and I was stoked to see that she was coming to the contest. Surprisingly, we also all got treated to our next saga chase champ, a Buffed Phoenix!
Initially I was stoked. But then I got to thinking about the champions in game, and my roster. And I went through and I tallied my top 60 Champions and of those 60, champs already with Incinerate power (ie Phoenix redundancy) or incinerate immunity (ie Phoenix invalidating) - and in many cases both - was 21 champs.
That's over a THIRD of my go-to roster already having these abilities or immune to them. What is Phoenix bringing to the contest? It seems like because of that, one of her greatest unique assets will be the ability to heal. We’ll have to see how effective this ability is capable of being once fights can happen, but just looking at the kit - while I’m excited my girl Phoenix is getting a boost, I don't feel like she fills any sort of unique abilities or covers a void in my roster.
I also just wish she had *some* kind of cosmic-class type benefit against the evil mutant-hunting tech robots. She has in her kit via Phoenix Force immunities to Power Drain, Power Burn, Power Lock, Special Lock, and Heal Block - but it would be awesome if she used her cosmic nature to shut down and obliterate Sentinel-type characters, giving her a leg up from the rest of the class-disadvantage Mutants when going up against the mutant-hunting machines.
Conversely, if you say look at Poison, in going through those same 60 champions, only ONE of them deals poison, and that's Scorpion. Going outside of that top 60, looking at my top 80 adds King Groot, Archangel, and Black Widow Claire Voyant - incidentally, ALL of them including Scorp are locked as 6* champions.
This is not me saying that Phoenix should be poison instead, that wouldn't make sense. Only to point out this discrepancy that it feels like so many of the best champions in the game are already ones that deal Incinerate or are immune to it already, and it feels like other abilities and debuffs massively need a boost.
Initially I was stoked. But then I got to thinking about the champions in game, and my roster. And I went through and I tallied my top 60 Champions and of those 60, champs already with Incinerate power (ie Phoenix redundancy) or incinerate immunity (ie Phoenix invalidating) - and in many cases both - was 21 champs.
That's over a THIRD of my go-to roster already having these abilities or immune to them. What is Phoenix bringing to the contest? It seems like because of that, one of her greatest unique assets will be the ability to heal. We’ll have to see how effective this ability is capable of being once fights can happen, but just looking at the kit - while I’m excited my girl Phoenix is getting a boost, I don't feel like she fills any sort of unique abilities or covers a void in my roster.
I also just wish she had *some* kind of cosmic-class type benefit against the evil mutant-hunting tech robots. She has in her kit via Phoenix Force immunities to Power Drain, Power Burn, Power Lock, Special Lock, and Heal Block - but it would be awesome if she used her cosmic nature to shut down and obliterate Sentinel-type characters, giving her a leg up from the rest of the class-disadvantage Mutants when going up against the mutant-hunting machines.
Conversely, if you say look at Poison, in going through those same 60 champions, only ONE of them deals poison, and that's Scorpion. Going outside of that top 60, looking at my top 80 adds King Groot, Archangel, and Black Widow Claire Voyant - incidentally, ALL of them including Scorp are locked as 6* champions.
This is not me saying that Phoenix should be poison instead, that wouldn't make sense. Only to point out this discrepancy that it feels like so many of the best champions in the game are already ones that deal Incinerate or are immune to it already, and it feels like other abilities and debuffs massively need a boost.
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Sentinel - no
Arcade - no (against cosmics)
Red skull - no
FAM - yes (puny 6* though)
Zola - no
Peni - yes
Omega sentinel - no
Imiw - no
Irondoom - yes
Mysterio - no
Nimrod - no
Shocker - no
Punisher99 - no
Shuri - no
Warlock - no
3 out of 15 top used defenders, are only incrnerate immune. She'll live, don't worry.
Every champ’s got their niche, and if you have more fun with a specific champ that shares a niche, then use them. No one’s forcing you to use every champ in the game.
For me, perfect example is Chee’ilth vs Zemo. Lots of shared utility and damage type when you think about it - I prefer Zemo because I just don’t jive with Chee’ilth. So I barely use Chee’ilth, and use Zemo any chance I can get.