Ok.. y'all picking on my boy Rulk, but what about this guy?

hungryhungrybbq

Another severely underrated War Attacker.. Goatablo
Go ahead.. let's get started - "let the hate flow through you"
https://youtu.be/rcpfagPA4Jc?si=eClrbt2wENvLPjZe

13579rebel_

Love him and I wish I had the 7 star

THUNDERBIL

He is waaay better than Rulk. I have a 7 star Rulk only to do what throw pebbles.
Goatablo here is able to melt away his opponents while Rulk can't even land a decent crit.

hungryhungrybbq

THUNDERBIL said:

He is waaay better than Rulk. I have a 7 star Rulk only to do what throw pebbles.
Goatablo here is able to melt away his opponents while Rulk can't even land a decent crit.

I am both deeply offended and delighted 😂 - glad you like Diablo at least:)

hungryhungrybbq

Crit stat focus does help Rulk, but this is an XL champs thing unfortunately.. though he was landing 30k medium crits and a 165k sp3 last war for me

THUNDERBIL

hungryhungrybbq said:

THUNDERBIL said:

He is waaay better than Rulk. I have a 7 star Rulk only to do what throw pebbles.
Goatablo here is able to melt away his opponents while Rulk can't even land a decent crit.

I am both deeply offended and delighted 😂 - glad you like Diablo at least:)

My question is why is there so much hype for Rulk. Dude needs a total makeover like OG Hulk.
OG Abom is better than Rulk on both offense (with synergies) and defense (if attacker is not poison immune).

PT_99

Safest hero in game possibly.
Massive heals, massive poison, constant nullify, respectable burst damage and that's it but that's enough.

Captainaiden

i had red hulk, planning to rank up him if i dup him, he is so good against mystic champs

and i wish i had this drunkard head. he so underrated and those poison and his nullify is so good

hungryhungrybbq

THUNDERBIL said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

THUNDERBIL said:

He is waaay better than Rulk. I have a 7 star Rulk only to do what throw pebbles.
Goatablo here is able to melt away his opponents while Rulk can't even land a decent crit.

I am both deeply offended and delighted 😂 - glad you like Diablo at least:)

My question is why is there so much hype for Rulk. Dude needs a total makeover like OG Hulk.
OG Abom is better than Rulk on both offense (with synergies) and defense (if attacker is not poison immune).

Haha, look.. I never said he was insane or anything.. I'm just saying he makes my list of War attackers that I use (yes, still in 2025) effectively.. he wins war fights, simple as that.. but yes, as with Diablo.. anyone who uses him without Recoil is not really using him correctly
He does need an update, but not nearly as much as green did

hungryhungrybbq

Captainaiden said:

i had red hulk, planning to rank up him if i dup him, he is so good against mystic champs

and i wish i had this drunkard head. he so underrated and those poison and his nullify is so good

Yes! But also energy champs too just as much
And yeah Diablo is crazy crazy underrated.. the amount of different matches he can do is insane and I don't think most people know how many matches he can do.. like not just do, but do them with a yellow bar

hungryhungrybbq

hungryhungrybbq said:

Captainaiden said:

i had red hulk, planning to rank up him if i dup him, he is so good against mystic champs

and i wish i had this drunkard head. he so underrated and those poison and his nullify is so good

Yes! But also energy champs too just as much
And yeah Diablo is crazy crazy underrated.. the amount of different matches he can do is insane and I don't think most people know how many matches he can do.. like not just do, but do them with a yellow bar

Korg, Onslaught, Thing, Sassy, Sersi, Gorr, Domino, Serpent.. umm, idk the list goes on
Add in the KP/RS synergy to completely expand his reach for both defenders and nodes

THUNDERBIL

I stand by my call. He needs a total makeover. Whatever he is usefull for, there are other champions who are far better than him. Just because a 7 star hits good doesn't means he is good. I have 6 stars who perform better than my 7 star Rulk. He is in desperate need of a new package, more so than OG Abom. There are synergies but how many can you use at a time. Some things are better in kit than in synergies *cough...cough..StarLord*

Savage123456789

Bro tried to compare Rulk to Diablo 😭😭

EdisonLaw

THUNDERBIL said:

He is waaay better than Rulk. I have a 7 star Rulk only to do what throw pebbles.
Goatablo here is able to melt away his opponents while Rulk can't even land a decent crit.

In B4 @Demonzfyre comes to defend him

Captainaiden

Basically there is 4 type of mcoc people who rank up
1. Rank up the god tier and the popular one
2. Rank up the god tier and the popular one but don't know how to use the champs
3. Rank up the underrated champs
4. Rank up the unthinkable, example R4 War Machine (anyone rank 4 WM?)

Rank up anyone you want, as long as you happy about it. It is your choice buddy

Average_Desi

Diablord

THUNDERBIL

@Captainaiden I am asking why is there such a hype for Rulk. It's true that you should rank up champions that you like, but my question is why are people so crazy about Rulk?
What am I missing? I have a 7 star Rulk as well and I have tested him.

hungryhungrybbq

hungryhungrybbq said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

Captainaiden said:

i had red hulk, planning to rank up him if i dup him, he is so good against mystic champs

and i wish i had this drunkard head. he so underrated and those poison and his nullify is so good

Yes! But also energy champs too just as much
And yeah Diablo is crazy crazy underrated.. the amount of different matches he can do is insane and I don't think most people know how many matches he can do.. like not just do, but do them with a yellow bar

Korg, Onslaught, Thing, Sassy, Sersi, Gorr, Domino, Serpent.. umm, idk the list goes on
Add in the KP/RS synergy to completely expand his reach for both defenders and nodes

Ok! We have a non-believer in the Diablord.. fess up, whose disagree is this? 😂
Gonna make me have to dig up footage of him destroying everything listed above lol

hungryhungrybbq

THUNDERBIL said:

@Captainaiden I am asking why is there such a hype for Rulk. It's true that you should rank up champions that you like, but my question is why are people so crazy about Rulk?
What am I missing? I have a 7 star Rulk as well and I have tested him.

Hey, tbh it's not "people" it's me and maybe handful of players lol

So, to be completely honest it's also a nostalgia/tradition thing.. I started using him in War Attack actual years ago.. just searched my channel (I'm not a YouTuber - I just record for fun/reference and to share footage of characters I like, etc.) and found my 2nd most viewed video was a war from season 31 (3 years ago) featuring our red friend.. this was when 6r3 was the highest power level - anyway, it's always been a tradition I take Red Hulk to the highest available power level when it comes out (it was kind of a meme in my old alliance - they even made Red Hulk emojis..

But! I don't still use him in war attack for nostalgic reasons.. he still wins fights for me - consistently, whenever the map calls for it.. is he a go-to attacker I use all the time? No, but he's on the rotation for sure

He needs Recoil to be good - if you don't play with Recoil, you won't like him

My AW workhorses are actually Warlock and Diablo.. they handle a really really wide range of matches for me - Rulk is not as broad of a range, but when it's a "Rulk fight" he crushes it

hungryhungrybbq

hungryhungrybbq said:

Crit stat focus does help Rulk, but this is an XL champs thing unfortunately.. though he was landing 30k medium crits and a 165k sp3 last war for me

For the Disagree lol

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Rulk needs a facelift like how Sentinel did, just give the bro some extra utility like Halt/Fear debuffs and some damage to boot.

hungryhungrybbq

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Rulk needs a facelift like how Sentinel did, just give the bro some extra utility like Halt/Fear debuffs and some damage to boot.

Totally agree base kit is good.. just outdated needs some utility and either a way to ramp his crit rate and/or Passive DOT on basics would be nice - I'd like him to keep his identity as not reliant/able to control his debuffs
A lot of the fights I use him for either don't allow or punish debuffs

Kerneas

I've pulled him as a 7* recently, but I was quite unimpressed. I know people like him, maybe I just played him wrong. Any tips?

Magrailothos

hungryhungrybbq said:

ThatGuyYouSaw235 said:

Rulk needs a facelift like how Sentinel did, just give the bro some extra utility like Halt/Fear debuffs and some damage to boot.

Totally agree base kit is good.. just outdated needs some utility and either a way to ramp his crit rate and/or Passive DOT on basics would be nice - I'd like him to keep his identity as not reliant/able to control his debuffs
A lot of the fights I use him for either don't allow or punish debuffs

A tweak would be good.

It would be great to have a ramp mechanism for Heat charges on basics/blocking, or some other kind of gameplay mechanic.

A bit of Heat charge utility could be something like reducing the opponent's ability accuracy, block proficiency or passive power gain. The opponent could be immune to those effects with Incinerate immunity, for balance.

Also, personally, I'd switch round the Incinerate/Regeneration between SP2/SP3, and boost each according to Heat charges.

GrabmeMCOC

Red Hulk is garbage.

Diablo is very good.

THUNDERBIL

hungryhungrybbq said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

Crit stat focus does help Rulk, but this is an XL champs thing unfortunately.. though he was landing 30k medium crits and a 165k sp3 last war for me

For the Disagree lol

Next time start with this.

hungryhungrybbq

GrabmeMCOC said:

Red Hulk is garbage.

Diablo is very good.

Congratulations on being 50% correct!

hungryhungrybbq

Kerneas said:

I've pulled him as a 7* recently, but I was quite unimpressed. I know people like him, maybe I just played him wrong. Any tips?

For sure, first thing to understand is he needs Recoil imo (red damage numbers are directly linked to and scale with the base hit damage and the initial hit damage is calculated first, then the red damage is applied - this is a huge difference if you think about it).. if anyone tests him without it you won't like him.. it's like using Diablo, Corvus, Sinister, Ghost, Omega Red, etc. without Recoil - they just simply aren't the same.. while you *can* use them without - the difference is night and day

I also believe some champs you need to actually rank them up to see what's what, I think DGuilly is a classic example: Her bread and butter is short-medium fights (like war attack) and yes, I believe she absolutely needs Recoil.. think about how her Souls work.. she creates a snowball effect of damage - comes out swinging.. does massive damage, which increases her Souls.. and leads to more damage.. with Recoils on, she's top 5 DPS in the game in short/medium matches ( I have footage of an 8 second war fight.. as we know I am happy to post footage/shots of anything I say:) but that what she is designed for imo.. short intense fights where she quickly wipes out the defender - benefits highly from Recoil and a high rank

The second, is that he is not a "workhorse" champion (a champ who is known for taking a really wide variety of matches across the spectrum) while there are lots of mystic and energy champs in the game (he does well against both) ..he's a little more of a specialist - but the matches he does well in, he does really well

His bread and butter is: Mystics, Energy champs.. for the best of both worlds, use him against a physical Mystic.. as he gets both the offensive advantage and defensive there (Mystic will ramp his charges - giving both damage and also Physical Resistance) and any fight that attempts to debuff him with Poison or Incinerate..

Where to use him: ideally, meeting the above criteria but also where you want a science champ who can control their debuffs and choose not to apply them.. and/or where red numbers will help push through damage mitigation kits and nodes.. random example: Manthing, he is tanky, Rulk cuts through it while ramping from both the Poison and the fact that he is a Mystic.. Rintrah, cuts through him, Wiccan... it's embarrassing for Wiccan, truly.. he folds in actual seconds

But! before you start listing dozens of other Science counters.. first place these defenders on a node set that either doesn't allow or punishes debuffs - now view the fight again (aw node 10, Debuff Immune Knockdown, etc. etc.)

- use him with Recoil
- use him for what he does best

Using him in the correct matchup means you do not need to throw any sp1 unless you need to give the defender power or of it will end the match.. save for sp3, it does an additional 180% damage (red number) on top of the sp3 damage at full ramp and places a nice incinerate as well

Savage123456789

hungryhungrybbq said:

Kerneas said:

I've pulled him as a 7* recently, but I was quite unimpressed. I know people like him, maybe I just played him wrong. Any tips?

For sure, first thing to understand is he needs Recoil imo (red damage numbers are directly linked to and scale with the base hit damage and the initial hit damage is calculated first, then the red damage is applied - this is a huge difference if you think about it).. if anyone tests him without it you won't like him.. it's like using Diablo, Corvus, Sinister, Ghost, Omega Red, etc. without Recoil - they just simply aren't the same.. while you *can* use them without - the difference is night and day

I also believe some champs you need to actually rank them up to see what's what, I think DGuilly is a classic example: Her bread and butter is short-medium fights (like war attack) and yes, I believe she absolutely needs Recoil.. think about how her Souls work.. she creates a snowball effect of damage - comes out swinging.. does massive damage, which increases her Souls.. and leads to more damage.. with Recoils on, she's top 5 DPS in the game in short/medium matches ( I have footage of an 8 second war fight.. as we know I am happy to post footage/shots of anything I say:) but that what she is designed for imo.. short intense fights where she quickly wipes out the defender - benefits highly from Recoil and a high rank

The second, is that he is not a "workhorse" champion (a champ who is known for taking a really wide variety of matches across the spectrum) while there are lots of mystic and energy champs in the game (he does well against both) ..he's a little more of a specialist - but the matches he does well in, he does really well

His bread and butter is: Mystics, Energy champs.. for the best of both worlds, use him against a physical Mystic.. as he gets both the offensive advantage and defensive there (Mystic will ramp his charges - giving both damage and also Physical Resistance) and any fight that attempts to debuff him with Poison or Incinerate..

Where to use him: ideally, meeting the above criteria but also where you want a science champ who can control their debuffs and choose not to apply them.. and/or where red numbers will help push through damage mitigation kits and nodes.. random example: Manthing, he is tanky, Rulk cuts through it while ramping from both the Poison and the fact that he is a Mystic.. Rintrah, cuts through him, Wiccan... it's embarrassing for Wiccan, truly.. he folds in actual seconds

But! before you start listing dozens of other Science counters.. first place these defenders on a node set that either doesn't allow or punishes debuffs - now view the fight again (aw node 10, Debuff Immune Knockdown, etc. etc.)

- use him with Recoil
- use him for what he does best

Using him in the correct matchup means you do not need to throw any sp1 unless you need to give the defender power or of it will end the match.. save for sp3, it does an additional 180% damage (red number) on top of the sp3 damage at full ramp and places a nice incinerate as well

It’s like describing OG hulk except without the incinerate immunity, slightly longer time on debuff immune nodes, but significantly better champ 🤣. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with your points btw. I am not a fan of overhyping champs that’s all, which has happened a lot in the history of this game. I like when I see reasonable expectations which I think this comment was a really good breakdown of who Rulk is, and not just a “he’s an OP champ” claim.

hungryhungrybbq

THUNDERBIL said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

Crit stat focus does help Rulk, but this is an XL champs thing unfortunately.. though he was landing 30k medium crits and a 165k sp3 last war for me

For the Disagree lol

Next time start with this.

Haha.. some things to note about this fight image

hungryhungrybbq

Savage123456789 said:

hungryhungrybbq said:

Kerneas said:

I've pulled him as a 7* recently, but I was quite unimpressed. I know people like him, maybe I just played him wrong. Any tips?

For sure, first thing to understand is he needs Recoil imo (red damage numbers are directly linked to and scale with the base hit damage and the initial hit damage is calculated first, then the red damage is applied - this is a huge difference if you think about it).. if anyone tests him without it you won't like him.. it's like using Diablo, Corvus, Sinister, Ghost, Omega Red, etc. without Recoil - they just simply aren't the same.. while you *can* use them without - the difference is night and day

I also believe some champs you need to actually rank them up to see what's what, I think DGuilly is a classic example: Her bread and butter is short-medium fights (like war attack) and yes, I believe she absolutely needs Recoil.. think about how her Souls work.. she creates a snowball effect of damage - comes out swinging.. does massive damage, which increases her Souls.. and leads to more damage.. with Recoils on, she's top 5 DPS in the game in short/medium matches ( I have footage of an 8 second war fight.. as we know I am happy to post footage/shots of anything I say:) but that what she is designed for imo.. short intense fights where she quickly wipes out the defender - benefits highly from Recoil and a high rank

The second, is that he is not a "workhorse" champion (a champ who is known for taking a really wide variety of matches across the spectrum) while there are lots of mystic and energy champs in the game (he does well against both) ..he's a little more of a specialist - but the matches he does well in, he does really well

His bread and butter is: Mystics, Energy champs.. for the best of both worlds, use him against a physical Mystic.. as he gets both the offensive advantage and defensive there (Mystic will ramp his charges - giving both damage and also Physical Resistance) and any fight that attempts to debuff him with Poison or Incinerate..

Where to use him: ideally, meeting the above criteria but also where you want a science champ who can control their debuffs and choose not to apply them.. and/or where red numbers will help push through damage mitigation kits and nodes.. random example: Manthing, he is tanky, Rulk cuts through it while ramping from both the Poison and the fact that he is a Mystic.. Rintrah, cuts through him, Wiccan... it's embarrassing for Wiccan, truly.. he folds in actual seconds

But! before you start listing dozens of other Science counters.. first place these defenders on a node set that either doesn't allow or punishes debuffs - now view the fight again (aw node 10, Debuff Immune Knockdown, etc. etc.)

- use him with Recoil
- use him for what he does best

Using him in the correct matchup means you do not need to throw any sp1 unless you need to give the defender power or of it will end the match.. save for sp3, it does an additional 180% damage (red number) on top of the sp3 damage at full ramp and places a nice incinerate as well

It’s like describing OG hulk except without the incinerate immunity, slightly longer time on debuff immune nodes, but significantly better champ 🤣. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with your points btw. I am not a fan of overhyping champs that’s all, which has happened a lot in the history of this game. I like when I see reasonable expectations which I think this comment was a really good breakdown of who Rulk is, and not just a “he’s an OP champ” claim.

For sure, and thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say
"He's not an OP science champ you use for every fight.. choose his fights correctly, and he will perform very well for you in the matches he is made for"

My main use for him is AW attack.. and he's not a workhorse, he's more of an assassin - bring him on the team if/when I see matches he thrives in.. and he crushes them.. like actually embarrassing for the defender type wins usually