Ordeal very short write-up by an *average? Valiant who read very little nodes and no planning

willrun4adonut

First off, I did not plan, I simply remembered that I hated fighting Mojo, Korg and Sassy. I remembered hating Apoc and Weapon X, but that was because I didn’t know how to fight Weapon X, and Apoc because of his charges at 4 charges and since I didn’t have nimrod this time to deal with them]. I didn’t read any nodes prior, nor did I read any nodes except BPCW, Void, and Thanos. I didn’t know what was going on in some fights as I had tons of revives to spare [and still ended up with a bunch].
Team [all max boosted with 15% attack, 20% health and 30% green – I ran suicides for the 4 fights before I realized I had them on. I thought that there was some random node taking away my health]
R3 Sinister, Hulk [brought specifically for Mojo and DragonMan to NUKE down], Serpent [unduped], Onslaught
R4 Red Skull
Doom – Sinister. I died twice to gain charges when sinister was about to die so my Sinister would have 2 mystic persistent charges due to bug. Simply hold heavy for fight.
Terrax – Sinister. Died twice to get cosmic charges.

Vision – Serpent [I believe]

MODOK – Serpent. Once you throw a special, you’re good to go with his undermine. Just be careful and practice dexing MODOK’s sp1.

Spam – Serpent. He urns off the annoying evade, and he was beefy enough I could heal form taunt and took a sp3 and several sp2 block damage.
Wolverine X – Sinister. Just keep the degens on. Died twice to get Mutant charges.

Thing – Tried Onslaught twice, but then went to Sinister. Was much easier to keep the damage going imo.

Korg – Sinister. Died three times, healed to full health. Just hate that mix master.

Dragon man – Just threw Hulk at him and revived. Threw on science boosts as well. Three revives

BPCW – Like 24 revives. I wasn’t prepared for him as I thought it was his old kit [or maybe it was his old kit and I just forgot]. This fight used more revives than all of my other fights combined. Used Onslaught mostly.
Nightcrawler -Serpent turns off his annoying evade.

Gwen – Serpent turns off evade, but I did accidently stun her two times.

Domino – Red Skull. Easy Peasy. Just built to sp2, which was harder than I thought since I kept instinctively power draining her.

Mojo – Just Hulked it. 3 revives.Built to sp2, then stun locked.

iBom -Hulk solo. Was going to try Sinister, but then didn’t.
Apoc – Red Skull. He’s very tanky. Got a solo. Didn’t evade any specials, and even took a few hits to the face, and still finished with 7-% health [I did heal up for this fight form the slight damage form Domino].

Sasquatch – I thought Sinister would be easy, but it was long since you can’t apply degen damage. I had to get to sp3 while he was stunned and not in wrath, fire sp3, hold stun to drain power, attack, build back up to sp3, repeat, wait out Wrath, etc. It was about 17 minutes for the solo.

Killmonger - I used Onslaught since he doesn’t take bleed damage. Just heavy counter sp1. It was a long fight.

Void – Sinister max healed. Got him down to ~22% in about a minute seconds, but died. The degen does some great damage for power shield.

Nick - Onslaught
Thanos: Serpent made it really easy. I have never gotten a solo, and I believe my other runs on Gauntlet 1.0 were about 30 each against him. Serpent made it so easy that I got him to 8% before dying.

This was WAY easier than Epoch, necro, and crucible imo.

So, who should I grab from my nexus? I'll be opening it in the morning. I'll also post my revive count in the morning as well.

ShashankGupta

I never knew serpent has undermine in his kit 🤣

Supersha7

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Great write up. Gives everyone hope for it

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

ShashankGupta said:

I never knew serpent has undermine in his kit 🤣

Drats, it was late. True Focus. But see, I didn't even read the kits of my own champ's before jumping in.

smdam38

Short?

Polygon

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Gamer

It is the new kit one BPCW.

TikkaMasala

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Great write up. Gives me some hope. Guess I’ll give this a go maybe this weekend. The long path looks intimidating and like you I’m tired of having to read all the nodes.

I chose Okoye though I know nothing about her. I’d always rather the attacker than a defender.

ShashankGupta

willrun4adonut said:

ShashankGupta said:

I never knew serpent has undermine in his kit 🤣

Drats, it was late. True Focus. But see, I didn't even read the kits of my own champ's before jumping in.

True focus counters evade and miss then how you compared it to undermine which counters auto block 😅

dv99999

totally, how many revives did you use ?

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Before and after with revives. Overall, I'm pleased with it. The only nodes I actually read were Vision, BPCW, Void, Killmonger, Gwen and Domino. The rest I just went with what I remembered or didn't remember from my last gauntlet run, whenever that was. No planning, spreadsheet, just hoped that my champs could do it.

Champion24

Zola [know nothing about him except he's a defender]

24 revives for BPCW. That's what I am afraid of. How does Mr Sinister counter Korg ?

BigBlueOx

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Polygon said:

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Can confirm Okoye is a BEAST in incursions. Really where she works though she’s a beast everywhere. Because of her enhanced Dex she can Dex Photon in pure light too and is very very safe for her as well as Bullseye…

When she doesn’t work though it can be a disaster so you do need to be mindful of Korg, Thing, Attuma, Havok, Domino and Onslaughts

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Champion24 said:

24 revives for BPCW. That's what I am afraid of. How does Mr Sinister counter Korg ?

He can turn off his Shurg, plus can heal from his 0 damage bleed to counter the high penetration. If you can dodge his sp1, which I can't, it would be a solo.

Ercarret

I was about to type up my own post detailing how I went about things, but I figured I'll just leave this here instead. No point having two posts up when one will do.

I used a team consisting of Deathless She-Hulk, Onslaught, Wiccan, Serpent and Shuri. All at r3.

* Doom – solo with Onslaught.
* Terrax – solo with Wiccan.
* Vision – solo with Deathless She-Hulk.
* MODOK – a bit of a revive sink. I hate him. (For some reason I didn't think of using Serpent, which, after reading your write-up, sounds like a much better option than Shuri.)
* Piggy – solo with Serpent.
* Weapon X – should have been a solo with Shuri but I messed up at the end.
* Thing – I wasted too many revives trying to get him down with Serpent (because I always forgot how many hits his specials had, and triggered Thing's unstoppable) when I should just have used Wiccan.
* Korg – a couple of revives with Onslaught.
* Dragon Man – solo-able with Deathless She-Hulk, but I messed up towards the end.
* Black Panther CW – he's always an annoying defender, but Wiccan handles him very well. Not a solo by any means, but he got him down.
* Nightcrawler – solo with Serpent.
* Spider-Gwen – had to use one revive with Serpent because I messed up.
* Domino – solo with Shuri.
* Mojo – a couple of revives with Deathless She-Hulk.
* Ibom – solo with Deathless She-Hulk.
* Apocalypse – I tried out a couple of champions so I used a team revive, then a couple of single revives on Shuri.
* Sassy – solo with Shuri.
* Killmonger – biggest revive sink in the quest since I didn't have any good counters. Mostly used Onslaught and Serpent, but Onslaught was super slow due to no power and Serpent eventually died (a lot) due to reverb.
* Void – a few revives, alternating between Onslaught and Serpent.
* Nick Fury – kind of the same as Void.
* Nameless Thanos – definitely solo-able with Deathless She-Hulk since she power controls the living hell out of him with her SP2. The problem is that, if you mess up midway through, it can be a little tricky to get to that SP2 power control again. I used a couple of revives but this was definitely my second-best run at Thanos, right after my solo with Baron Zemo.

I was surprised by how well things went. It did cost quite a few revives (mainly due to MODOK, Thing, Korg, BPCW and Killmonger), but I also managed to solo quite a few of the fights. It was a lot of fun to tackle these fights with new champions. I don't think I've ever used any of the champions I had on my team this time, in any of my previous run through the GM's Gauntlet.

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Took Okoye from the Nexus.

altavista

BigBlueOx said:

Polygon said:

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Can confirm Okoye is a BEAST in incursions. Really where she works though she’s a beast everywhere. Because of her enhanced Dex she can Dex Photon in pure light too and is very very safe for her as well as Bullseye…

When she doesn’t work though it can be a disaster so you do need to be mindful of Korg, Thing, Attuma, Havok, Domino and Onslaughts

So even though Okoye's dex isn't called out as a dodge where she can't be hit (like Dazzler), it still behaves like one?

Graves_3

Ercarret said:

I was about to type up my own post detailing how I went about things, but I figured I'll just leave this here instead. No point having two posts up when one will do.

I used a team consisting of Deathless She-Hulk, Onslaught, Wiccan, Serpent and Shuri. All at r3.

* Doom – solo with Onslaught.
* Terrax – solo with Wiccan.
* Vision – solo with Deathless She-Hulk.
* MODOK – a bit of a revive sink. I hate him. (For some reason I didn't think of using Serpent, which, after reading your write-up, sounds like a much better option than Shuri.)
* Piggy – solo with Serpent.
* Weapon X – should have been a solo with Shuri but I messed up at the end.
* Thing – I wasted too many revives trying to get him down with Serpent (because I always forgot how many hits his specials had, and triggered Thing's unstoppable) when I should just have used Wiccan.
* Korg – a couple of revives with Onslaught.
* Dragon Man – solo-able with Deathless She-Hulk, but I messed up towards the end.
* Black Panther CW – he's always an annoying defender, but Wiccan handles him very well. Not a solo by any means, but he got him down.
* Nightcrawler – solo with Serpent.
* Spider-Gwen – had to use one revive with Serpent because I messed up.
* Domino – solo with Shuri.
* Mojo – a couple of revives with Deathless She-Hulk.
* Ibom – solo with Deathless She-Hulk.
* Apocalypse – I tried out a couple of champions so I used a team revive, then a couple of single revives on Shuri.
* Sassy – solo with Shuri.
* Killmonger – biggest revive sink in the quest since I didn't have any good counters. Mostly used Onslaught and Serpent, but Onslaught was super slow due to no power and Serpent eventually died (a lot) due to reverb.
* Void – a few revives, alternating between Onslaught and Serpent.
* Nick Fury – kind of the same as Void.
* Nameless Thanos – definitely solo-able with Deathless She-Hulk since she power controls the living hell out of him with her SP2. The problem is that, if you mess up midway through, it can be a little tricky to get to that SP2 power control again. I used a couple of revives but this was definitely my second-best run at Thanos, right after my solo with Baron Zemo.

I was surprised by how well things went. It did cost quite a few revives (mainly due to MODOK, Thing, Korg, BPCW and Killmonger), but I also managed to solo quite a few of the fights. It was a lot of fun to tackle these fights with new champions. I don't think I've ever used any of the champions I had on my team this time, in any of my previous run through the GM's Gauntlet.

A bit late on advice but shuri could have done the killmonger fight if you managed the bleed damage from one or two parries.

Khellendros138

So I used serpent against Modok and he was still auto blocking me. I thought serpent only counters miss and evade.

DocWest

I don’t have a 7* Serpent. I tried last night and got to Black Panther Civil War and it was awful, so I quit out. Who’s a good counter for that fight?

I also feel like 7* Serpent is so important for this content and I can’t seem to pull one. Onslaught is the other must have that I do own, but he didn’t help me at all with Black Panther CW. I feel like most of the upcoming fights were Serpent fights. So I may have to wait until I can pull him until I try again. It was a frustrating experience. Funnily enough, I found EoP easier. Maybe it’s because I was familiar with all of those fights where I never did this content when it first released?

altavista

DocWest said:

I don’t have a 7* Serpent. I tried last night and got to Black Panther Civil War and it was awful, so I quit out. Who’s a good counter for that fight?

I also feel like 7* Serpent is so important for this content and I can’t seem to pull one. Onslaught is the other must have that I do own, but he didn’t help me at all with Black Panther CW. I feel like most of the upcoming fights were Serpent fights. So I may have to wait until I can pull him until I try again. It was a frustrating experience. Funnily enough, I found EoP easier. Maybe it’s because I was familiar with all of those fights where I never did this content when it first released?

What specifically makes BPCW difficult? I'm not super familiar with his buff. Does the node combinations make it extra hard?

Herbal_Taxman

He’s weirdly painful. The node gives him unblockable when he’s got armor and regen, which he gets every so often. Also gets unstoppable and evade buffs after he throws a special. And now (unbeknownst to me) he’s got cleanse and seeming some other damage mitigation stuff. (I didn’t get him from banquet so have never read the new kit.)

I took him out with Wiccan but it was more difficult than I anticipated or that I remembered from initial gauntlet runs.

Herbal_Taxman

For whatever it’s worth, I used

Serpent
Onslaught
dShulk
Wiccan
Omega Sentinel

Painful fights were Doom (Onslaught), bPCW (Wiccan), Mojo (Dshulk) and Void (Serpent, others).

I brought Wiccan primarily for Terrax. The champ I found myself wanting was Spam, especially for Mojo. That fight sucks.

I also found myself wondering about my Sable. I think she would be good for all of the science defenders. Having someone who can shrug debuffs would make Void so much less painful.

BigBlueOx

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

altavista said:

BigBlueOx said:

Polygon said:

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Can confirm Okoye is a BEAST in incursions. Really where she works though she’s a beast everywhere. Because of her enhanced Dex she can Dex Photon in pure light too and is very very safe for her as well as Bullseye…

When she doesn’t work though it can be a disaster so you do need to be mindful of Korg, Thing, Attuma, Havok, Domino and Onslaughts

So even though Okoye's dex isn't called out as a dodge where she can't be hit (like Dazzler), it still behaves like one?

It seems that it can’t be turned off with the enchancement

TotemCorruption

You're much braver than me.
Last time I tried to do a hard quest without reading nodes:

smy168

I really enjoyed Ordeal, the fights were tough but fair, no outstanding new nodes that counter every attacker, Serpent and Onslaught were the G.O.A.T.s but I have to say that Deathless SheHulk is a great champ, she really moved things for me.

Great review @willrun4adonut !

Oakenshield

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

@willrun4adonut wasn’t aware Mr Sinister could build up charges when he dies vs. just by defeating an opponent.

Question for you since when I used him in Necropolis/long form content I wasn’t paying close enough attention: Let’s say you built up 3 mystic and 3 cosmic on Doom and Terrax. When you do later fights and exceed the 10 cap, do the initial mystic and cosmic ones get bumped off by the more recent fights, or is it that you don’t acquire additional ones from the more recent fights (ie the mystic and cosmic ones - having been obtained first - stay locked in)?

BigBlueOx

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

BigBlueOx said:

altavista said:

BigBlueOx said:

Polygon said:

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Can confirm Okoye is a BEAST in incursions. Really where she works though she’s a beast everywhere. Because of her enhanced Dex she can Dex Photon in pure light too and is very very safe for her as well as Bullseye…

When she doesn’t work though it can be a disaster so you do need to be mindful of Korg, Thing, Attuma, Havok, Domino and Onslaughts

So even though Okoye's dex isn't called out as a dodge where she can't be hit (like Dazzler), it still behaves like one?

It seems that it can’t be turned off with the enchancement

Well I guess this was all a bug… nvm all that. Good ole team Kabam, lightning quick on pro-player bugs yet again.

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

BigBlueOx said:

BigBlueOx said:

altavista said:

BigBlueOx said:

Polygon said:

Okoye counters bullseye. Has easy access to countering evade and very easy to play but high bleed/shock damage (if theyre immune to one think she places more of the opposite). I know you like incursions, she can be a monster there i bet

Zola is a robot and robots are cool.

Can confirm Okoye is a BEAST in incursions. Really where she works though she’s a beast everywhere. Because of her enhanced Dex she can Dex Photon in pure light too and is very very safe for her as well as Bullseye…

When she doesn’t work though it can be a disaster so you do need to be mindful of Korg, Thing, Attuma, Havok, Domino and Onslaughts

So even though Okoye's dex isn't called out as a dodge where she can't be hit (like Dazzler), it still behaves like one?

It seems that it can’t be turned off with the enchancement

Well I guess this was all a bug… nvm all that. Good ole team Kabam, lightning quick on pro-player bugs yet again.

I doubt it's been fixed, as I've been using it since he first got buffed, and have shared it before on my write ups. It doesn't always trigger, but it appears to be more than 75% of the time for me.

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

Oakenshield said:

@willrun4adonut wasn’t aware Mr Sinister could build up charges when he dies vs. just by defeating an opponent.

Question for you since when I used him in Necropolis/long form content I wasn’t paying close enough attention: Let’s say you built up 3 mystic and 3 cosmic on Doom and Terrax. When you do later fights and exceed the 10 cap, do the initial mystic and cosmic ones get bumped off by the more recent fights, or is it that you don’t acquire additional ones from the more recent fights (ie the mystic and cosmic ones - having been obtained first - stay locked in)?

They stayed locked in, like his normal persistent charge gains. They don't go away, but you also can't go above the three cap for each class.

willrun4adonut

Okoye [know nothing about her except she's an attacker]

TotemCorruption said:

You're much braver than me.
Last time I tried to do a hard quest without reading nodes:

I honestly had so many revives that I figured I could just Sinister degen them to death if need be and revive through it.