Unstoppable Colossus: Why isn't he Incinerate and Coldsnap/Frostbite immune?

Isn't he supposed to be? He has Cyttorak's powers, but isn't he still supposed to be Piotr Rasputin/Colossus??.... with metal skin and heat/cold resistances?

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Vendemiaire

Yea, but I think his coating is just Aluminum foil.

peixemacaco

Isn't he supposed to be? He has Cyttorak's powers, but isn't he still supposed to be Piotr Rasputin/Colossus??.... with metal skin and heat/cold resistances?

2 threads with Rasputin family 😍

shield311

because he's outdated, same reason why phoenix wasn't incinerate immune.

kvirr

he’s pretty old, hasn’t been updated. Probably half the reason.

Toproller89

He should literally have all the abilities of both colossus and juggernaut, that would be awesome

LordSmasher

Nah, he should just be deleted from the game.

ItsClobberinTime

Isn't he supposed to be? He has Cyttorak's powers, but isn't he still supposed to be Piotr Rasputin/Colossus??.... with metal skin and heat/cold resistances?

2 threads with Rasputin family 😍

Yes, one gets disagree spammed, the other gets LOL spammed.

Terminatrix

Yea, but I think his coating is just Aluminum foil.

And he can't even cook anybody in the game 😂😭

Terminatrix

he’s pretty old, hasn’t been updated. Probably half the reason.

I can believe that considering how long it takes for SOME things to get updated around here *looking at the BG rewards and you Kabam* 😂

Bendy

Because when colos got it he was buffed but uc isnt buffed

Greed_Exodus

They should buff all the rare champs so they feel rewarding after obtaining them, I have a 6* skill punisher and immortal iron fist but they’re useless, kabam has no incentive to though unfortunately

Terminatrix

He should literally have all the abilities of both colossus and juggernaut, that would be awesome

The abilities and immunities of Juggs and the abilities and immunities of Colossus would be wild, and maybe worth the investment.

I guess when Kabam buffs or makes changes to the loyalty store, they should consider this for champion accuracy...because c'mon....this outdated champ comes with an overpriced tag of 365,000 and 800,000 and 1,600,000 Loyalty.......🤔

Terminatrix

They should buff all the rare champs so they feel rewarding after obtaining them, I have a 6* skill punisher and immortal iron fist but they’re useless, kabam has no incentive to though unfortunately

I can't see nay reasons for chasing them and spending so much on them. There is literally nothing to aspire for.

Ackbar67

For one, this is a game, and champion abilities are balanced on what makes a better game, not what is 100% accurate to the comics. For two, neither incinerate nor coldsnap existed when Unstoppable Colossus released, so there's no way he could have been immune

Pseudouber

Kabam dont care

EdisonLaw

He’s old and rusty

DNA3000

They should buff all the rare champs so they feel rewarding after obtaining them, I have a 6* skill punisher and immortal iron fist but they’re useless, kabam has no incentive to though unfortunately

The reason why they didn't just make them awesome in the first place is actually for a very specific reason. This game is built upon a few spenders spending tons of money to subsidize lots of players who play for free, instead of, say, everyone paying the same amount to play (like a subscription game would). This means you have to incentivize the spenders to spend way more than they ordinarily would be asked to spend Imagine if a movie theater, instead of charging everyone $15 decided to let everyone just come on in and watch movies for free and just charged for luxury seats. Since those few are basically being asked to pay for everyone, obviously they will have to pay a huge amount of money for those seats to make the economics of this work out.

So what do you sell them? The obvious thing is to sell them more power. Give them the stronger champs, the higher ranks, the larger rosters. But if we just do that, then the spenders will have enormous advantages over the non-spenders, and that's not good for the game. We want to sell them things they actually want, but actually have as little impact on the game as possible.

Very early on, there was a concerted effort to make sure that the highest prestige champs were not consistently also the strongest or most widely useful champs. There were exceptions of course, but high prestige did not correlate with high combat value in the game. Deliberately so. This meant big spenders who chased prestige did not get a universal advantage over all the other players in all parts of the game. The prestige race drove spenders to want to spend on things almost everyone else could ignore. This meant Kabam could make more money while in effect selling less "stuff" - or at least stuff most players cared about.

The same thing was true for so-called trophy champs. For trophy champs to be worth buying and chasing, they had to be rare. But to make sure that the spending on chasing them had as little impact on the game for everyone else as possible, those champs were not designed to be the most relevant or most useful or most powerful champs in the game. Again, this follows a general design philosophy that Kabam Crashed ~~stole from me~~ mentioned in a live stream, which is to sell as little as possible for as much as possible.

To say the rare champs should all be buffed to make them worth chasing sort of misses the point of those champs. We have lots of great champs that are worth chasing for everyone (albeit not everyone can afford to chase them). The rare trophy champ are designed to give "chasers" (via spending or grinding) something to chase that everyone else doesn't care about as much, so they can happily chase them and everyone else can happily ignore them.

startropics

They should buff all the rare champs so they feel rewarding after obtaining them, I have a 6* skill punisher and immortal iron fist but they’re useless, kabam has no incentive to though unfortunately
Again, this follows a general design philosophy that Kabam Crashed ~~stole from me~~ mentioned in a live stream, which is to sell as little as possible for as much as possible.

with so many more big spending events, is stuff being diluted more than ever and does this allow dolphins to pass on stuff that they normally wouldn't before?

i'm reminded of your old thread that put the average end game spending at $3-7.5k a year. i'm guessing clearing every big event now "just to keep up" costs around $6k.

way back before spring cleaning and the other events were a thing, it might have been $1500-2k a year and in my experience and best guess, spending $2k or $6k a year doesn't make much of a difference in game experience at all. are dolphins less incentivized to buy things now than before?

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/333350/this-game-is-a-cash-grab-thank-god/p1

DNA3000

They should buff all the rare champs so they feel rewarding after obtaining them, I have a 6* skill punisher and immortal iron fist but they’re useless, kabam has no incentive to though unfortunately
Again, this follows a general design philosophy that Kabam Crashed ~~stole from me~~ mentioned in a live stream, which is to sell as little as possible for as much as possible.
with so many more big spending events, is stuff being diluted more than ever and does this allow dolphins to pass on stuff that they normally wouldn't before?

i'm reminded of your old thread that put the average end game spending at $3-7.5k a year. i'm guessing clearing every big event now "just to keep up" costs around $6k.

way back before spring cleaning and the other events were a thing, it might have been $1500-2k a year and in my experience and best guess, spending $2k or $6k a year doesn't make much of a difference in game experience at all. are dolphins less incentivized to buy things now than before?

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/333350/this-game-is-a-cash-grab-thank-god/p1

In my opinion, not really, although it depends on your definition of "dolphin."

I think most of the complaints about spending escalation are concentrated at a very specific spending point, not the casual spenders and not the whales, but at the "stretch whales." The people who were coincidentally right at their spending limits when buying all or almost all of the big sale big ticket items. Even among the spenders, most were not maxing out those sales. And most of the whales cannot tell the difference between spending 2k and 3k. But if it was a stretch for you, that's when you would be feeling any escalation in spending opportunities, because for you and you alone the difference was between buying "everything" and "not everything."

Also, something to keep in mind about averages. Just because that's the average, doesn't mean very many people actually spend that much. Spending is concentrated, a $3k average is likely to be a ton of $100s and a few $100ks. The median spender is probably closer to $1k than $4k.

I'd say the impact of spending depends on what you're spending on more than how much you're spending. Smart focused spending can still matter a great deal. Focused spending in CW 2023 could have gotten you a jump on Valiant. That was worth a lot, possibly more in relative terms than buying everything in CW 2024. Buying tons of champion crystals is a game for the rich: you have to get very lucky for that to matter a whole lot unless you are trying to scrape up those very last missing champs or the latest greatest, and willing to spend a lot. Someone more focused on rank up sales are very likely to get a lot more bang for buck.

Even accounting for big sale events, there's usuall some really good value options, some moderate value options, and some eh options. The first dollar you spend is usually worth a lot more than the last one: there are diminishing returns on spending. I think that's still very true now: the hundreds of dollars spenders can't catch the mega whales, but they never could. But they can still make good use of that spending that still keeps them near the top, if not at the very top.

JESUSCHRIST

Unstoppable Colossus deserves a rework and 7* status