CMM style chase and the development of the “boring” chase

I feel like it hasn’t been discussed very much, but do you think we will ever see a CMM style chase again?

I personally found style of chase to be the most fun I’ve had with them. I started playing again in August during the middle of the chase and became thronebreaker during the last month. The ability to open paragon crystals and contribute towards getting the chase felt much more rewarding than simply collecting 1/75 or 1/100 of a character.

I really loved chases as a concept during this time but it seems that this streamline towards a singular, useless resource has taken the fun out of trying to get the chase. Not only did the crystals provide you with the chance of bolstering your roster, but you could also duplicate the chase champ if you were lucky.

Furthermore, it felt rewarding as a player if you wanted to spend money on the game. The daily deals contributing a point towards CMM and providing a crystals felt like a good mesh to encourage players to get some extra value out of it. I understand that the way daily deals work right now is the same way, one crystal and one chase resource, but it felt much better to have an immediate effect for your purchase, instead of saving up a bunch of one resource to do a quest.

While my points may be all over the place, I want to say that I think the chase within sagas has been increasingly more dry compared to their predecessors. CMM utilized crystals and a ton of milestones to reward the player for participating. The sinister chase shifted this, instead removing crystals and requiring players to build earn tickets towards a package, making it so you got less resources than the chase before (as with CMM you got 6* and 7* stuff, with this you could only get 7* OR 6*). And now with the latest chase, I worry that placing the reward of Phoenix behind a quest could mean even less rewards than even the sinister chase.

Comments

Ayemeboi

Just to add, I feel like I did go off track from my initial question, but it all sort of spiraled as I thought about it. I want this to be a criticism in the changes we have seen with chase champs in recent months. I perceive the changes as a diminishing of rewards without making the chase easier.

Furthermore, I find that it acts as a restriction of unlocking these champions full potential. The ability to duplicate chase champs has gone to zero with these last two sagas, while we were once offered a small, but nice, chance to awaken CMM with the crystals. Not having any chance or way awaken sinister was annoying, and the most recent change with Phoenix requiring an additional 64 dark plumes is still annoying. The cheapest a dark plume can be purchased for is $5 in the daily deal. That means you have to spend $320 to awaken Phoenix if you get every dark plume. While I appreciate a way to awaken the champion, provided f2p or smaller spenders the chance to awaken these chase champions with crystals was a great feature in the CMM chase. I am not saying to remove the ability to awaken with money, but I feel like these chases could be a lot better if we reverted back to that style.

captain_rogers

They just don't want to give us 100 paragon crystals for free anymore.

Savage123456789

The best part about this was allowing non spenders a chance to dupe her. All the other saga chases, you needed to spend cash in some way to dupe them as soon as you got them. At some point, i was scared they wouldn't let us dupe thanos without spending, lol

Ayemeboi

They just don't want to give us 100 paragon crystals for free anymore.

I agree, but I think it takes a little more nuance on why I don’t like the way chase champs are going. I don’t think we are entitled to 100 paragon crystals, but the rewards between the CMM chase and the current chases have become less and the fact there is no chance to dupe unless spending has me disappointed in the sagas.

Kabam decides their own system. If they wanted to give us 25 paragon crystals as the max milestone, they easily could. They concisely lessened the rewards and removed crystals for sagas while not making it any easier to get the saga “tokens”.

Usagicassidy

The CMM chase was by and large leagues better (read: felt more fun) than the Nightcrawler, Phoenix, Sinister ones (guess they really said "for Mutants you get the most boring chase ever).

I think a guarantee at a 7* champ PLUS the rare opportunity to open them in crystals made the whole journey fun and not just the collection of items to trade in to buy it at the end. It also felt more 'fair' that even if you didn't make it all the way to the end goal, you still had a (rather slim) chance of drawing them from the crystals you open.

Here's hoping we have *anything* like it again, because this Phoenix chase is boring but feels like the norm.

Gamer

They just don't want to give us 100 paragon crystals for free anymore.
I agree, but I think it takes a little more nuance on why I don’t like the way chase champs are going. I don’t think we are entitled to 100 paragon crystals, but the rewards between the CMM chase and the current chases have become less and the fact there is no chance to dupe unless spending has me disappointed in the sagas.

Kabam decides their own system. If they wanted to give us 25 paragon crystals as the max milestone, they easily could. They concisely lessened the rewards and removed crystals for sagas while not making it any easier to get the saga “tokens”.

while that’s CMM was fun but another crystal is stil rng to get the dup but the fact probably was because she was already released ones with that crystal.

Toyota_2015

The best part about this was allowing non spenders a chance to dupe her. All the other saga chases, you needed to spend cash in some way to dupe them as soon as you got them. At some point, i was scared they wouldn't let us dupe thanos without spending, lol

Yeah I much prefer the old chase system. I didn’t even get CMM from the chase, I got her twice from the crystals and called it a day.

Herbal_Taxman

Doesn’t feel like I’m chasing anything at the moment, tbh. I agree the crystal component of CMM event made things feel a little fresher than just “oh I did this thing I always do” (again) and now I have one more plume than I did a few days ago.

Usagicassidy

They just don't want to give us 100 paragon crystals for free anymore.
I agree, but I think it takes a little more nuance on why I don’t like the way chase champs are going. I don’t think we are entitled to 100 paragon crystals, but the rewards between the CMM chase and the current chases have become less and the fact there is no chance to dupe unless spending has me disappointed in the sagas.

Kabam decides their own system. If they wanted to give us 25 paragon crystals as the max milestone, they easily could. They concisely lessened the rewards and removed crystals for sagas while not making it any easier to get the saga “tokens”.
while that’s CMM was fun but another crystal is stil rng to get the dup but the fact probably was because she was already released ones with that crystal.

I *think* this must hit the nail on the head with why they did CMM this way and not the others.

Because she was *ready to go*. If you drew her from a crystal early, you got her and that was okay. I would love if they introduce a saga champ that’s just ready to go, ya know, at the start of the saga and give us the crystal opening kind of objective again.

N8buckeye08

I miss it too… that said, it was the beginning of a permanent nest egg of iso and gold for me. I imagine that’s messed up some of Kabam’s reward planning. I wish I could get more rank up materials to clear up this backlog but I don’t see it happening anytime soon.

Finalfuryk

I feel like a tiered reward path with like we've had in the past few weeks for previous sagas or Omega Days and what is planned for Daredevil is a happy medium. I would be more motivated to collect plumes if there were some lesser rewards before obtaining Phoenix rather than having it be a quest a few months off. The promise of a big carrot a month or two in the future is fine, but I think people would be more motivated to spend for extra plumes if there were smaller rewards (tier 3 alpha, tier 6 basic, saga sig stones) along the way.

Ayemeboi

I feel like a tiered reward path with like we've had in the past few weeks for previous sagas or Omega Days and what is planned for Daredevil is a happy medium. I would be more motivated to collect plumes if there were some lesser rewards before obtaining Phoenix rather than having it be a quest a few months off. The promise of a big carrot a month or two in the future is fine, but I think people would be more motivated to spend for extra plumes if there were smaller rewards (tier 3 alpha, tier 6 basic, saga sig stones) along the way.

That’s how I feel. I personally don’t use 6* materials now unless they’re rank up gems, but I remember getting 6* CMM from the event milestone was a huge help to get me where I am today. With sinister, we had to wait a few months to buy a single package that excluded all 6* stuff, including rank up gems. With Phoenix, I’m unsure how the rewards for the quest you have to beat her in will be, but I have a sinking feeling it will be limited to the same rewards or less than sinister.

Herbal_Taxman

I’d love to know how many people bought the platinum track early this time around. I think k it’s crazy they’ve got Cyclops as the ultimate prize and we know literally nothing about him.