7 Star Apocalypse and NF coming

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  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,340 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    What’s the deal with getting them? 7* nick and 7* apoc in the store for $150?? Do we gotta collect something?

    You just need to collect $$ and spend it on units to buy crystals lol
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,721 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
    But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.

    There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,963 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    Damn, bro, gotta change that pfp now.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,242 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
    But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.

    There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
    A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
    Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,242 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    last year i believe had some 7* crystals for cash plus a unit based milestone track that included more 7* crystals, bunch of rng valiant crystals, and a bunch more goodies (100 sigs, AG, champ selector).

    i see it being the same except keys this time.

    Like the gacha box?
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,324 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    EdisonLaw said:

    last year i believe had some 7* crystals for cash plus a unit based milestone track that included more 7* crystals, bunch of rng valiant crystals, and a bunch more goodies (100 sigs, AG, champ selector).

    i see it being the same except keys this time.

    Like the gacha box?
    yes
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,721 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    Damn, bro, gotta change that pfp now.
    Destroyer is a better attacker and a better defender than apocalypse and I'll die on that hill
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,721 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
    But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.

    There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
    A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
    Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
    In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,242 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    You know a champ is amazing when people only use him to make their actual good champs better.
    I didn't even know Apoc was a playable character until today; I thought he was some kind of boost you buy from the loyalty store.

    I see what you did there
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 1,896 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    They were mid as six stars and will be mid as seven stars, only good for synergy
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,719 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    NONYABIZZ said:

    You know a champ is amazing when people only use him to make their actual good champs better.
    I didn't even know Apoc was a playable character until today; I thought he was some kind of boost you buy from the loyalty store.

    Lol y'all change the goal post every damn time???
    "You know a champ is amazing when you only use em to make your good champs better"
    You just made that up 😭😭😭

    Apocalypse is nothing more than a synergy piece in 2025 and that is perfectly fine. There's nothing he offers as a standalone mutant that nearly 10 other mutants cannot do better.

    Maybe he was one of the GOATS in 2020 when questing was prevalent but its 2025 and the game has long shifted from that. He may see some use when 9.2 drops (AS A SYNERGY PIECE) or some defensive uses as I do think he is quite tanky but that's as good as it gets for him.
    Everyone seems to move the goalposts, and inconsistently I might add.

    Some players argue that Rulk is not trash (even though other Science can do what he does) because of how simple but effective he is, but here the argument is that Apoc is trash because other Mutants can do what he does.

    Apoc is great, I want him as a 7-star much more than I’d want a 7-star Nick Fury (having a 7-star version just to be a bigger Skill terror in a niche mode is not for me. And I would not want to use a 30% health champion to counter evade and be unblockable when I can bring a tanky Mole Man or Shang Chi it)..

    Apoc has access to different damage types through basics and specials. Disorient immunity is still a relevant node counter. Stun by hitting block is still a useful way to be able to knockdown.

    And yes, he has amazing synergies. Not just the horseman stuff, but his normal ones. I mean, randomly Spiral gets to have an extra 2 seconds on her ruptures. Mister Sinister gets even more godly while Apoc can still tag in if there is a polka dot power and power shield fight.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 5,972 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    6* literally gets whooped in BG, it's just sad state of 6* everywhere,

    7r3 or forsaken 7r4 Apocalypse will be menace everywhere πŸ’€
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,242 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    6* literally gets whooped in BG, it's just sad state of 6* everywhere,

    7r3 or forsaken 7r4 Apocalypse will be menace everywhere πŸ’€
    yes especially with 7* R4s running around, 6* defenders are less and less common
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,000 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    I’ve watched some new account challenge videos.
    They always say no herc because it would be too easy.

    Herc is obviously amazing and these folk are way better than I, but I want to see one with herc to see how amazing.

    Because I don’t think it would be as easy as people think.
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,137 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    And yet no 6 stars Magic or Quake πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
  • HarryatomixHarryatomix Member Posts: 524 β˜…β˜…β˜…
    edited April 5

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    You spoke my heart, he will be used a lot more to make horsemen of apocalypse and that’s all. This can be huge for alliance and long form content.

    Honestly I think NF and Apoc are similar level champs. One is great on defence and the other enhances mutants by a mile.
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 1,491 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    EdisonLaw said:

    Bigfoot33 said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    Yeah, since they are monetizing this, Kitty Pryde should have been up there. Apocalypse is good but mainly for the horseman.

    ...and stalling on defense.
    I have a feeling Kitty would be a bit OP?
    Nah she along with all top 6* except a few direly need the star upgrade.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,721 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    PT_99 said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    6* literally gets whooped in BG, it's just sad state of 6* everywhere,

    7r3 or forsaken 7r4 Apocalypse will be menace everywhere πŸ’€
    I come against 6 star apocalypse in bgs pretty frequently and they still do decently on defense
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,721 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    EdisonLaw said:

    PT_99 said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be

    He might be a good stall in BGs
    Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
    6* literally gets whooped in BG, it's just sad state of 6* everywhere,

    7r3 or forsaken 7r4 Apocalypse will be menace everywhere πŸ’€
    yes especially with 7* R4s running around, 6* defenders are less and less common
    You just got cav brother how you would know
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,565 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…

    They were mid as six stars and will be mid as seven stars, only good for synergy

    I always look forward to your hot takes.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 2,000 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Nick 7* gonna be a problem.
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,792 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    smdam38 said:

    Nick 7* gonna be a problem.

    For what
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,252 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    smdam38 said:

    Nick 7* gonna be a problem.

    Hes really not though hes easy to kill we have so many mutants that nuke
  • GamerGamer Member Posts: 11,792 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Bendy said:

    smdam38 said:

    Nick 7* gonna be a problem.

    Hes really not though hes easy to kill we have so many mutants that nuke
    I think even when he’s dup he’s need 200 to stale of defenses. But with r4. Around. It be nice to have him
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,252 β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…β˜…
    Gamer said:

    Bendy said:

    smdam38 said:

    Nick 7* gonna be a problem.

    Hes really not though hes easy to kill we have so many mutants that nuke
    I think even when he’s dup he’s need 200 to stale of defenses. But with r4. Around. It be nice to have him
    For sure i personally would like him just because its nick i probs wont even use him but i still have abyss so maybe he will get used
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