I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
Does it matter if someone else think this champ is better/worst than you think?
They might be spot right, or overhyped or sleeping on the champ, whatever it is. If the champ is good for you and you enjoy and think they OP then good on you.
Always good to see a constructive discussion of a champ with clear point on wby, but if the argument is simple he/she/they are better/worst/mid because I think so ...is kind of moot point.
Like who you like, use who you enjoy and rank up who is important to you, live and let live.
Personally I would love to have Apo and Nick, but highly doubt that I would be able to get them.
Hes really not though hes easy to kill we have so many mutants that nuke
Only Dani, duped Deadpool XF, and maybe one other mutant counters his second life? Everyone else has to deal with that second life if he's duped. Plus if he's at sig 200 he won't degen as fast
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
Hes really not though hes easy to kill we have so many mutants that nuke
Only Dani, duped Deadpool XF, and maybe one other mutant counters his second life? Everyone else has to deal with that second life if he's duped. Plus if he's at sig 200 he won't degen as fast
Toad works, and is honestly not that hard to nuke him down. I use jugs all the time against him but you just gotta be aggressive and push him to sp2
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
They only are introducing Apoc because I just ascended him this month.
I feel the same way about Galan.
I'm glad my procrastination has paid off. I have been debating taking him to R5 and ascending him because I have a 4-5 gem, but never pulled the trigger. Now I can show my wife that procrastination pays off! 😎
I heard karatemike say that after the spring cleaning event, people wont know what to do with the units so they can use those units to get these champs. Am I wrong?
I heard karatemike say that after the spring cleaning event, people wont know what to do with the units so they can use those units to get these champs. Am I wrong?
Honestly i have just started hoarding my units for content once spring cleaning comes i will have roughly around 50k units im sitting on 23.6k as we speak with 3 paths of epoch left then i will probly move over to the ordeal and then do the necro anniversary carina challenges minus the deathless one since i only have guilly i may finally buy those other pieces once i hit 100k if i decide to go that high lol
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
Pretty much no one has 100% uptime on being an evade counter (I guess Serpent if you don’t get hit or Venom), so there is always a chance of, lets say Prof X, having to deal with 10 evades across a quest as he goes under the needed charges. Apoc just frontloads it.
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
Pretty much no one has 100% uptime on being an evade counter (I guess Serpent if you don’t get hit or Venom), so there is always a chance of, lets say Prof X, having to deal with 10 evades across a quest as he goes under the needed charges. Apoc just frontloads it.
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
It's not about 100 percent up time, it's about ease of access. If you need an evade counter for a fight, as in the evade is a big issue that you need to deal with, having to trigger that evade 8 or so times before you can comfortably attack in rough.
Obviously not every effect needs to be 100% guaranteed, but if you need to rely on it is certainly an issue. Crossbones has a 90% purify chance at sig 200, I'm still not using him for matches where even keeping 1 or 2 dot effects is going to kill me
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
Pretty much no one has 100% uptime on being an evade counter (I guess Serpent if you don’t get hit or Venom), so there is always a chance of, lets say Prof X, having to deal with 10 evades across a quest as he goes under the needed charges. Apoc just frontloads it.
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
It's not about 100 percent up time, it's about ease of access. If you need an evade counter for a fight, as in the evade is a big issue that you need to deal with, having to trigger that evade 8 or so times before you can comfortably attack in rough.
Obviously not every effect needs to be 100% guaranteed, but if you need to rely on it is certainly an issue. Crossbones has a 90% purify chance at sig 200, I'm still not using him for matches where even keeping 1 or 2 dot effects is going to kill me
many evade counters require you hit the opponent before you can counter evade. There are every very few that can counter evade without throwing a special or doing something else. No to mention Apoc doesn't need a debuff
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
Pretty much no one has 100% uptime on being an evade counter (I guess Serpent if you don’t get hit or Venom), so there is always a chance of, lets say Prof X, having to deal with 10 evades across a quest as he goes under the needed charges. Apoc just frontloads it.
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
It's not about 100 percent up time, it's about ease of access. If you need an evade counter for a fight, as in the evade is a big issue that you need to deal with, having to trigger that evade 8 or so times before you can comfortably attack in rough.
Obviously not every effect needs to be 100% guaranteed, but if you need to rely on it is certainly an issue. Crossbones has a 90% purify chance at sig 200, I'm still not using him for matches where even keeping 1 or 2 dot effects is going to kill me
many evade counters require you hit the opponent before you can counter evade. There are every very few that can counter evade without throwing a special or doing something else. No to mention Apoc doesn't need a debuff
But those are champions that you can stun and hit in order to build up to your evade counter. Apocalypse is basically a good an evade counter as cable
I can't wait for people to finally get 7 star apocalypse and realise that he's not as good as people hype him up to be
He might be a good stall in BGs
Is that literally all people want? A 6 star can already do that
a 7* has block penetration and greater stats + health
But enough to make a difference. The resources required to get him above the level of a 6r5a for a slightly better defender can't be ignored here.
There are plenty of tech and non tech attackers that can handle him, his value is primarily in his pre fight which is not going to be improved by being a7 star and is locked behind 2 fights or 40 units and a synergy. I really struggle to see how a7 star apocalypse is going to impact the game as it is in 2025
A 7* apoc really helps in AW if you bring a mutant team and plan to make someone a horseman. He can also take HS nodes, and also has unique immunity to disorient. He also has easy access to bleed and poison that helps against Stun reflect nodes in AW. A lot of Utilities I'll say
Also can bypass evade but he needs a ramp up for that.
In any big content having to risk 10 evades is hardly something to shout about
There is no relevant content in game at the moment where you can't risk 10 evades.
In bgs 1 evade can mean a lost match,
Nobody using him as an attacker in BG anyways. Especially not for evade matchups.
Bgs is a relevant game mode though. I'm not saying his evade counter is completely useless, but the fact that you have to deal with 10 evades across a quest before you can guarantee it makes it hard to trust
Pretty much no one has 100% uptime on being an evade counter (I guess Serpent if you don’t get hit or Venom), so there is always a chance of, lets say Prof X, having to deal with 10 evades across a quest as he goes under the needed charges. Apoc just frontloads it.
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
It's not about 100 percent up time, it's about ease of access. If you need an evade counter for a fight, as in the evade is a big issue that you need to deal with, having to trigger that evade 8 or so times before you can comfortably attack in rough.
Obviously not every effect needs to be 100% guaranteed, but if you need to rely on it is certainly an issue. Crossbones has a 90% purify chance at sig 200, I'm still not using him for matches where even keeping 1 or 2 dot effects is going to kill me
many evade counters require you hit the opponent before you can counter evade. There are every very few that can counter evade without throwing a special or doing something else. No to mention Apoc doesn't need a debuff
But those are champions that you can stun and hit in order to build up to your evade counter. Apocalypse is basically a good an evade counter as cable
a better evade counter is iron man infinity war and if you add stark spidey they cant evade at all
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Cosmic class just has so many bangers.
I guess we’ll see.
Does it matter if someone else think this champ is better/worst than you think?
They might be spot right, or overhyped or sleeping on the champ, whatever it is. If the champ is good for you and you enjoy and think they OP then good on you.
Always good to see a constructive discussion of a champ with clear point on wby, but if the argument is simple he/she/they are better/worst/mid because I think so ...is kind of moot point.
Like who you like, use who you enjoy and rank up who is important to you, live and let live.
Personally I would love to have Apo and Nick, but highly doubt that I would be able to get them.
Not how the game works.
Now I can show my wife that procrastination pays off! 😎
And additionally, there are a ton of things in this game that are not 100% guarantees that players are still fine gambling on. Whether it be AAR abilities (eg. Magneto on has 70%, Scream not always having 100% reduction of armor) or champs like Angela/Spiral not always having 100% timer reductions, there’s a ton of champions that we accept gambling on.
Obviously not every effect needs to be 100% guaranteed, but if you need to rely on it is certainly an issue. Crossbones has a 90% purify chance at sig 200, I'm still not using him for matches where even keeping 1 or 2 dot effects is going to kill me
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