The Unfortunate Side Effect of buffed Act 5 rewards…
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So I came across this reddit post by some user who was complaining about who they were matched against for Battlegrounds and shared a clip of it… The hilarious thing was that they were matched against a user who had only three rank 5 6* champions and none of their 7*s were past rank 1.
People in the comments basically told them to progress through the story acts, get better titles, and get better and higher ranked champions. They were ABSOLUTELY not having this construcive criticism and instead viewed it as a flaw of the game.
Here’s the thing: they were being a little B word complaining about everything, and refusing to progress in the game - but they weren’t exactly wrong in their initial statement, that “Until they buff act 6 rewards i feel like I’m at a point in my progression where unless I do somehing like Battlegrounds I’m just not getting anywhere.”
This person is inherently wrong with that thinking because they need to progress to the highest title availble before they could actually legitimately start complaining about rewards… but they’re not exactly wrong either, which is a problem Kabam has created for themselves.
But here’s where i circle it back to the main issue and the main question - if Kabam decides to buff Act 5 rewards in the way that they did, and the majority of the rest of the competition remains untouched or barely modified, how are they not going to expect sentiments and reactions like this? The hilarious thing is they kept mentioning how butthurt I apparenlty was by buffed act 5 rewards, when that was never anything I expressed - only “keep progressing and get better and stronger if you want the better and stronger rewards” and their response was “why should I because the rewards aren’t good” and as much as I’m annoyed by their annoying complaining and not trying mindset - they’re not wrong in that aspect.
My genuine question to Kabam is… what did you expect from this, and what do you plan to do in the future? Because making it easier for newer players - like this one that says they were “given a 7* without ever having to be Cavalier” - but making the rest of the contest not seem “worth it” to work as hard and grind as much as we do does very much seem valid.
People in the comments basically told them to progress through the story acts, get better titles, and get better and higher ranked champions. They were ABSOLUTELY not having this construcive criticism and instead viewed it as a flaw of the game.
Here’s the thing: they were being a little B word complaining about everything, and refusing to progress in the game - but they weren’t exactly wrong in their initial statement, that “Until they buff act 6 rewards i feel like I’m at a point in my progression where unless I do somehing like Battlegrounds I’m just not getting anywhere.”
This person is inherently wrong with that thinking because they need to progress to the highest title availble before they could actually legitimately start complaining about rewards… but they’re not exactly wrong either, which is a problem Kabam has created for themselves.
But here’s where i circle it back to the main issue and the main question - if Kabam decides to buff Act 5 rewards in the way that they did, and the majority of the rest of the competition remains untouched or barely modified, how are they not going to expect sentiments and reactions like this? The hilarious thing is they kept mentioning how butthurt I apparenlty was by buffed act 5 rewards, when that was never anything I expressed - only “keep progressing and get better and stronger if you want the better and stronger rewards” and their response was “why should I because the rewards aren’t good” and as much as I’m annoyed by their annoying complaining and not trying mindset - they’re not wrong in that aspect.
My genuine question to Kabam is… what did you expect from this, and what do you plan to do in the future? Because making it easier for newer players - like this one that says they were “given a 7* without ever having to be Cavalier” - but making the rest of the contest not seem “worth it” to work as hard and grind as much as we do does very much seem valid.
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Not seen the act 6 rewards so can't comment but the difficulty jump from act 5.4 to TB is too big compared to from act 4 to 5. I think the issue is the difficulty in quest of later acts not necessarily the rewards. When they were creating act 6 and 7 they made the margins and difficulty too big and is why new players struggle. You can criticise people it's a skill issue cool but they did make it too difficult too quickly imo. It wasn't a steady incline of increased difficulty but felt more like rock climbing a cliff in act 6. I understand there will be very skilled players out there who say found it easy
Skill issue (No excuse, they just suck at this game, now we are seeing valiant after 3-4 days of gameplay so it's really all about the skill)
The AI is entirely different from earlier AI which is dumb as hell
Their logic is I'm not going to do story mode bcos the difficulty is too high (AI) and the rewards too low so they will never reach end game and are forever stuck as a casual player and eventually quit the game
This game involves playing to become valiant which requires a reasonable time, that means casual players never play towards this medium term target as they are short term oriented (just playing for some casual fun)
The OG Act 6 was too punishing indeed and I agree with that, but giving new players an easy 7* before Act 7 is too much.
Literally, the only tutorial is how to parry. No intercepting, no heavy countering, no heavy canceling, no special baiting, no mention of nodes, nothing to teach new players the skills they need to advance in the game
1) lowering/eliminating progression title requirements for BG access plus this initiative:
led to where we are now. Whether it's yielding the results they wanted, they can speak to it themselves.
2) the sweet spot of users currently is Thronebreaker, where you're close enough to Paragon/Valiant rewards that you're likely to spend. To that end, removing story content barriers to get to Tb, and especially enhancing rewards for those who do run story gets new users to the sweet spot Tb that much faster. My test alt created right before banquet is Tb but has never actually broken any thrones:
The goal for this account is to wait out removal of Paragon and eventually Valiant story gates and see if accrual of champs over time gets the job done. Of course, I'm not running this account thru BGs, but that's where the game is at.
The screenshot of the discussion that was posted hit the nail on the head. BG's are offered to uncollected and above. If it is offered, it should be playable for them. Same with rewards. People aren't going to play a game mode that isn't rewarding.
Same can be said of Act content. If they don't buff the rewards, people that automatically have access to higher rarities aren't going to play content that rewards low tier resources benefitting low tier champs, especially when resource management is important.
The reward for clearing act 6 isn’t whatever crystals and catalysts. It’s access to the act 7 and 8 and 9 rewards.
Anyway, they said an act 6 buff was likely coming. The goal should be to push as far as skills and roster allow within story content, clearing one path per quest. Once you do that, explore in reverse order as you deem appropriate and possible.