You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.
If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀 I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
You are assuming that things you don't like are automatically bad/wrong, when in reality its just different strokes for different folks.
Player A spends time "playing BGs to earn high level rewards", and criticizes Player B wasting time "playing Arenas to earn Units." Player A insults Player B by calling "Arenas a no-life game mode".
Looking at it from another angle, Player B can criticize Player B for wasting time "in a niche game mode", and Player B insults Player A by calling them a "BG sweat".
Player C can then insult both Player A and Player B by saying "you're wasting all the time you spend commenting on the forums, when that could be instead used to play the game".
This game is a hobby/pasttime for people, so get off your high horse about whether players spend a lot of time or a little time, and in whatever game modes. "No life-ing arena" is no different from someone "sweating BGs", just like how outside the game someone can "no life fantasy football" or any other hobby. Why are you trying to make yourself seem superior because you don't play arena?
At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.
Would that have made this event better?
Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.
The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.
I don’t understand. Archangel was a very strong character and limited as a 5* until mid-late 2020. You know who was also around by 2020? Apoc, CGR, Crossbones, Dr. Doom, Domino, Human Torch and more! ”
You want to know something Crossbones wasn't buffed till 2021
You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.
If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀 I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
You are assuming that things you don't like are automatically bad/wrong, when in reality its just different strokes for different folks.
Player A spends time "playing BGs to earn high level rewards", and criticizes Player B wasting time "playing Arenas to earn Units." Player A insults Player B by calling "Arenas a no-life game mode".
Looking at it from another angle, Player B can criticize Player B for wasting time "in a niche game mode", and Player B insults Player A by calling them a "BG sweat".
Player C can then insult both Player A and Player B by saying "you're wasting all the time you spend commenting on the forums, when that could be instead used to play the game".
This game is a hobby/pasttime for people, so get off your high horse about whether players spend a lot of time or a little time, and in whatever game modes. "No life-ing arena" is no different from someone "sweating BGs", just like how outside the game someone can "no life fantasy football" or any other hobby. Why are you trying to make yourself seem superior because you don't play arena?
You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.
If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀 I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
You are assuming that things you don't like are automatically bad/wrong, when in reality its just different strokes for different folks.
Player A spends time "playing BGs to earn high level rewards", and criticizes Player B wasting time "playing Arenas to earn Units." Player A insults Player B by calling "Arenas a no-life game mode".
Looking at it from another angle, Player B can criticize Player B for wasting time "in a niche game mode", and Player B insults Player A by calling them a "BG sweat".
Player C can then insult both Player A and Player B by saying "you're wasting all the time you spend commenting on the forums, when that could be instead used to play the game".
This game is a hobby/pasttime for people, so get off your high horse about whether players spend a lot of time or a little time, and in whatever game modes. "No life-ing arena" is no different from someone "sweating BGs", just like how outside the game someone can "no life fantasy football" or any other hobby. Why are you trying to make yourself seem superior because you don't play arena?
He has been condescending with no-lifing comment for long. The irony in calling others no-lifing tho.
You don’t like how they handled it, but you’re still going to spend and get Dark Phoenix. No offense but they are getting what they want out of you. Their plan worked.
If she is as strong of a defender as they say then yeah I don't really have a choice if I want to stay competitive in BGs that's the only game mode I play consistently these days.
If you're competitive in BGs now, then you can for sure stay competitive without DP.
If I ban her every single match sure, but I already have to ban r3 Serpents Enchantress and Photons every single match cause I still don't have any of them as 7* I don't want every BGs match to turn into pick your poison lol
I mean bg banning is literally picking your poison, it's deciding which champions you would feel the least comfortable with the opponent having access to them. You could also just like, learn how to fight her? If you're competitive enough in bgs to justify spending on this event then I refuse to believe that you don't have a counter for her in your kit
You can't play around that safeguard without a counter and she's nullify stagger and neutralize immune already so we'll see, there's also the nova flame which requires either poison or high energy resistance, she is by no means Serpent level but she will be meta relevant and the 4.5/5 is fitting. What bothers me the most tho is them locking her behind a massive unit spend, I don't think they should be locking strong 4.5/5 defenders with a lot of potential to be meta behind huge paywalls cause it's just not fair for other people who aren't in a position to spend a lot. If I have to I will, but I know there are people who won't because they can't. They should've just kept her in the crystal, doing what they did was completely unnecessary and makes them look hungry for people's pockets.
Her nova flame specifically gets reduced by hitting into her after a special and she is countered by atrophy after the first safeguard. There's nothing in her kit that is impossible to counter and honestly if you're worried about her meta potential then literally just ban her. She looks easier to counter than serpent was on release and it's hard to look at her shaking up the meta because you can bring counters to her or ban her, that's how the game works. You're also going for her no? So all this talk about her being unfair I hope means your aren't going to be using her lmao
You can count champs with atrophy in one hand and half of them suck in terms of damage 💀 I literally said she's no Serpent but she is a 4.5/5, and me whaling out to get her doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't be locking champs that strong and meta relevant behind paywalls, they had no reason to do so other than milking lol.
And when bullseye came out there were no pursuit characters and now we have a new one every month lmao. Shathra already looks to be a really good counter to her
So they're locking a champ behind a 1k paywall to shut them down every month afterwards? Lmao sure pal, they will definitely do that.
Again it not paywall. For 1k mate yes it what it cost if you need to buying the unit but unit can be gained for free costing time yes
In order to get 36k units you need to no life arena, auto explore EQ, and stop touching grass for 2-3 months. How many people do you think have the patience or the time for that? It absolutely is a paywall unless you're unemployed, not studying and no friends 💀
You are assuming that things you don't like are automatically bad/wrong, when in reality its just different strokes for different folks.
Player A spends time "playing BGs to earn high level rewards", and criticizes Player B wasting time "playing Arenas to earn Units." Player A insults Player B by calling "Arenas a no-life game mode".
Looking at it from another angle, Player B can criticize Player B for wasting time "in a niche game mode", and Player B insults Player A by calling them a "BG sweat".
Player C can then insult both Player A and Player B by saying "you're wasting all the time you spend commenting on the forums, when that could be instead used to play the game".
This game is a hobby/pasttime for people, so get off your high horse about whether players spend a lot of time or a little time, and in whatever game modes. "No life-ing arena" is no different from someone "sweating BGs", just like how outside the game someone can "no life fantasy football" or any other hobby. Why are you trying to make yourself seem superior because you don't play arena?
He has been condescending with no-lifing comment for long. The irony in calling others no-lifing tho.
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
You're also getting a lot of other stuff including a r4 gem. It's not just 1 selector.
Honestly, this is feeling like a pass for me. Which is fine. I'm sure some will really enjoy it. For me, it's just too geared towards spending, and there's already a number of pay things going on. No shade, I get it. I wish Dark Phoenix was more accessible though. I waited 8 years or so since I first saw her, if memory serves. That's what I wanted most.
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
You're also getting a lot of other stuff including a r4 gem. It's not just 1 selector.
When you look at it compared to every other event like banquet and july 4/cyber the other items you listed are minimal compared to what other events have. This event just has exclusive champs as its appeal and nothing else. I get that exclusive is a big appeal but to make it cost as much as july and cyber (and more than banquet) is a low blow to most .
Banquet gave you 3 chances at 6 exclusive champs and a bunch more resources at half the cost of 15k units (less than half)
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
You're also getting a lot of other stuff including a r4 gem. It's not just 1 selector.
When you look at it compared to every other event like banquet and july 4/cyber the other items you listed are minimal compared to what other events have. This event just has exclusive champs as its appeal and nothing else. I get that exclusive is a big appeal but to make it cost as much as july and cyber (and more than banquet) is a low blow to most .
Banquet gave you 3 chances at 6 exclusive champs and a bunch more resources at half the cost of 15k units (less than half)
Different events will have different spending thresholds. We just had an event where we could pretty much choose any* champ for free. That was very different from July 4 or Christmas.
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
You're also getting a lot of other stuff including a r4 gem. It's not just 1 selector.
When you look at it compared to every other event like banquet and july 4/cyber the other items you listed are minimal compared to what other events have. This event just has exclusive champs as its appeal and nothing else. I get that exclusive is a big appeal but to make it cost as much as july and cyber (and more than banquet) is a low blow to most .
Banquet gave you 3 chances at 6 exclusive champs and a bunch more resources at half the cost of 15k units (less than half)
Yes, in terms of sheer volume, you're not getting much for your 36k units here. Certainly I think on J4th that will get you two R4 gems and other stuff. But it won't get you elite defenders like NF and DP, which is why I see a connection between the release of the radiance store and this HOF event centered around these two champs (and to some extent FAM as well). It's like, you want that radiance? Here's a huge edge for your BG roster. That's the selling point that I see Kabam aiming for.
What really sucks is that this isn’t even a key : boxes eventually you have to open crystals to maybe get what you want. All those rewards and you get 2 7*s and a selector? Will the web store milestone have another 7* selector? That would make it more worth it. We all know that the crystals won’t give you anything so those are all worthless. And the likelihood of pulling who you want from. The 7*s crystals is next to 0. So it comes down to the selectors. For 45k units you’re giving one selector ? That sucks.
You're also getting a lot of other stuff including a r4 gem. It's not just 1 selector.
When you look at it compared to every other event like banquet and july 4/cyber the other items you listed are minimal compared to what other events have. This event just has exclusive champs as its appeal and nothing else. I get that exclusive is a big appeal but to make it cost as much as july and cyber (and more than banquet) is a low blow to most .
Banquet gave you 3 chances at 6 exclusive champs and a bunch more resources at half the cost of 15k units (less than half)
Yes, in terms of sheer volume, you're not getting much for your 36k units here. Certainly I think on J4th that will get you two R4 gems and other stuff. But it won't get you elite defenders like NF and DP, which is why I see a connection between the release of the radiance store and this HOF event centered around these two champs (and to some extent FAM as well). It's like, you want that radiance? Here's a huge edge for your BG roster. That's the selling point that I see Kabam aiming for.
Its not as much of an edge as youd think as apparently DLL stated the champs wont be exclusive to HoF in a youtube video. Its just to get the champs "quicker" than others.
At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.
Would that have made this event better?
Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.
The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.
I would have loved to see Cull Obsidian in this crystal. He would not have been a disappointment at all.
At the end of the day, the game isn’t ready for 7 Star Hulkling, Hercules, or Cosmic Ghost Rider - and we didn’t feel like any other yet to be released Cosmic was in the right spot for this Event. There was a period of time we discussed adding Carnage to the Crystal so there would be one Champion per class.
Would that have made this event better?
Ultimately, I felt very strongly against putting an objectively less than desirable Champion in this Crystal, and creating the possibility of a lesser experience for Players opening 1-2 Crystals, simply to have one Champion per Class - so I pushed pretty hard against that.
The way I see it, is that this keeps the Crystal loaded with Champions at the top of their Class for players engaging lightly in the event, while guaranteeing one of the 6 for those going all the way to the end - on top of the Selector that gives a copy of one of the other 5 - creating a much better chance to walk away with all 6 Champions.
I would have loved to see Cull Obsidian in this crystal. He would not have been a disappointment at all.
He actually would be a very sensible 7* addition due to block proficiency stat focus.
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And everything is clear, no one is being robbed.
If you have the units pay for it, if not go buy.
Kabam have the rights to do this. They search for profit, doing Mcoc.
Or....wait for some months and maybe Phoenix will enter in Crystals
Player A spends time "playing BGs to earn high level rewards", and criticizes Player B wasting time "playing Arenas to earn Units." Player A insults Player B by calling "Arenas a no-life game mode".
Looking at it from another angle, Player B can criticize Player B for wasting time "in a niche game mode", and Player B insults Player A by calling them a "BG sweat".
Player C can then insult both Player A and Player B by saying "you're wasting all the time you spend commenting on the forums, when that could be instead used to play the game".
This game is a hobby/pasttime for people, so get off your high horse about whether players spend a lot of time or a little time, and in whatever game modes. "No life-ing arena" is no different from someone "sweating BGs", just like how outside the game someone can "no life fantasy football" or any other hobby. Why are you trying to make yourself seem superior because you don't play arena?
Crossbones wasn't buffed till 2021
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Let’s be honest, Player A is obviously correct.
Banquet gave you 3 chances at 6 exclusive champs and a bunch more resources at half the cost of 15k units (less than half)
But it won't get you elite defenders like NF and DP, which is why I see a connection between the release of the radiance store and this HOF event centered around these two champs (and to some extent FAM as well).
It's like, you want that radiance? Here's a huge edge for your BG roster.
That's the selling point that I see Kabam aiming for.