So how are we feeling about two (maybe) Serpent-level Defenders being released in the same month?

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  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 605 ★★★

    Guess I'm pretty r*tarded, but can u just use a power control champ and bait heavies, she is just a bg's collector, just try to bait heavies and control her power, why do I feel that doom would be amazing for her?

    Going to break this to you she is immune to all power control methods
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,493 ★★★★★

    Guess I'm pretty r*tarded, but can u just use a power control champ and bait heavies, she is just a bg's collector, just try to bait heavies and control her power, why do I feel that doom would be amazing for her?

    Going to break this to you she is immune to all power control methods
    She's immune to power drain not power steal.
    Anyway, what is Doom gonna do to her regardless?
    He can't nullify her buffs, so it's going to be a long and painful experience.
    Safeguard, embers, dot resistance, death immunity, unavoidable nova flame damage, etc.
  • ViperOfChampionViperOfChampion Member Posts: 877 ★★★
    edited May 5


    Guess I'm pretty r*tarded, but can u just use a power control champ and bait heavies, she is just a bg's collector, just try to bait heavies and control her power, why do I feel that doom would be amazing for her?

    Did you read her kit?
    ****, I forgot about her power drain immunity, yes I did read her kit, well its fine, there is a reason why I have a human torch who is r5 asd
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,493 ★★★★★


    Guess I'm pretty r*tarded, but can u just use a power control champ and bait heavies, she is just a bg's collector, just try to bait heavies and control her power, why do I feel that doom would be amazing for her?

    Did you read her kit?
    ****, I forgot about her power drain immunity, yes I did read her kit, well its fine, there is a reason why I have a human torch who is r5 asd
    Doom power steals, he doesn't power drain.
    What is Human Torch going to do?
    She's immune to nova.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,493 ★★★★★
    You need atrophy (Shathra, Kindred) or just Juggs it and hope for the best.
  • Abspain101Abspain101 Member Posts: 605 ★★★


    Ht would be worthless against her she is incenerate and nova flame immune i thought i saw she was power burn immune also but was wrong also poison works well against her as well
  • LokxLokx Member Posts: 1,701 ★★★★



    Ht would be worthless against her she is incenerate and nova flame immune i thought i saw she was power burn immune also but was wrong also poison works well against her as well

    Could use iceman. He is nova immune and a 7* now
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,661 ★★★★★

    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    Are there assurances Dark Phoenix won’t be subjected to rebalancing?

    Dr. Zola

    She is considered a trophy champ those are not up for rebalance last time i heard anything
    This is the traditional thinking, but…I cannot think of any of the trophy champs who came close to being meta defenders or attackers in competitive modes.

    Maybe we have it all wrong, and she’s only mid. However, this feels quite different from past P2W trophies.

    Dr. Zola
    Weapon flex when he came out as 7*
    Perhaps, but I remember WX having recognizable and available counters. Not sure there’s that many for DkPhoenix, but we will know for sure in a few days.

    Dr. Zola
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 12,702 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    Are there assurances Dark Phoenix won’t be subjected to rebalancing?

    Dr. Zola

    She is considered a trophy champ those are not up for rebalance last time i heard anything
    This is the traditional thinking, but…I cannot think of any of the trophy champs who came close to being meta defenders or attackers in competitive modes.

    Maybe we have it all wrong, and she’s only mid. However, this feels quite different from past P2W trophies.

    Dr. Zola
    Weapon flex when he came out as 7*
    Perhaps, but I remember WX having recognizable and available counters. Not sure there’s that many for DkPhoenix, but we will know for sure in a few days.

    Dr. Zola
    If bgs would've been a thing when wpx was released, he is definitely 5/5. He was 5/5 in AW, one of the main boss options, as there is no way to deal with his regen and unblockable/unstoppable together with his fkin uncooperative ass ai at that time. Then nimrod came and made him a joke.
  • Bazooka_1Bazooka_1 Member Posts: 59
    Emilia90 said:

    heehee said:

    This is how they make money they release broken defenders then release perfect counters for them for $$$
    Instead of improving anti cheat in BGs

    I’ve been playing BGs since the start and I haven’t run into a cheater in my 100’s of matches in the last couple seasons
    Must be in vt still.
  • OurobørosOurobøros Member Posts: 2,167 ★★★★★
    I see comments about Daunted countering her, but it only affects the attack rating cap, it does not help you counter her Reversal or avoid damage
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 2,825 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    DrZola said:

    Are there assurances Dark Phoenix won’t be subjected to rebalancing?

    Dr. Zola

    She is considered a trophy champ those are not up for rebalance last time i heard anything
    This is the traditional thinking, but…I cannot think of any of the trophy champs who came close to being meta defenders or attackers in competitive modes.

    Maybe we have it all wrong, and she’s only mid. However, this feels quite different from past P2W trophies.

    Dr. Zola
    Weapon flex when he came out as 7*
    Perhaps, but I remember WX having recognizable and available counters. Not sure there’s that many for DkPhoenix, but we will know for sure in a few days.

    Dr. Zola
    Anyone with atrophy is a pretty solid counter
  • Gentsy12Gentsy12 Member Posts: 141 ★★
    What champs have atrophy? Is it just shathra and kindred? Seems like hood is going to be a good counter too and bwcv if they every release her as a 7*
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 87

    I see comments about Daunted countering her, but it only affects the attack rating cap, it does not help you counter her Reversal or avoid damage

    Well yeah you’re not supposed to ‘counter’ the reversal, just avoid triggering it. And you can avoid her bleed damage with bleed resistance. Crits less so, but some champions help with that too
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 10,394 ★★★★★

    You need atrophy (Shathra, Kindred) or just Juggs it and hope for the best.

    So she’s basically like Maestro then, so no Rintrah
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