Is Phoenix actually this good

I'm going to be honest when I saw Phoenix I was hyped for the buff but after taking her to r2.....she's unbelievably mid

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The_Lokí

Because each phoenix force increases the damage of incrinate. You can get phoenix force with either parrying the specials or using normal attacks. But after sp2, you can stack more, up to 30. She will deal insane amount of damage with more forces.

Harryatomix

I believe Banquet champs are better, except Sentry everyone is a banger in banquet pool. HoF has Ibom and Apoc and Dark phoenix is not someone u get unless u go all the way.

WednesdayLength

You're acting like ibom is a dud

TheUglyone123

You are of course entitled to your opinion. But nick fury, Fantman, and tigra are quite literally top of their class, the banquet champs are by no means bad, but they are not top of their class like these champs are

ItsClobberinTime

Hard disagree
1. Neither of the Banquet champs are top three in their classes, Nick FAM Tigra all are top 3 and that's not even up for debate it's a fact so those three alone already dog on all the Banquet champs by themselves.
2. Apoc is better than every Banquet champ you mentioned for long form content and I would say even questing because of horseman, so even though he might feel like a dud he's not actually a dud just the least useful in there.
3. iBom is not a dud either, very good damage and extremely safe to use because of the constant healing and the weaknesses. He's not top 3, not even top 5, but once people stop sleeping on him he will be probably be top 10.
4. Dark Phoenix is a very strong defender and a solid attacker, she's also better than any of the Banquet champs imo regardless of how many units you needed to get her she's apart of the event.

TheMostHated1

Nick fury, Tigra and fant are top of their class and better than anyone in the banquet pool

EdisonLaw

Sentry is great everywhere except BGs, similar to Apoc.

Timmy2xs

Nah, she's REALLY good. U did something really wrong. My R3 gets him down in 40 sec... My issues is that they introduced her & completely made her worthless for BG in the same day. Terrible planning by Kabam.

Harryatomix

The amount of glazing I saw for Medusa DPX and Purgatory in this forums is way to much. Many have used their poolies to get these banquet champs, the effort that purgatory puts in war raids or regular questing is immeasurable. Yes NF FAM Tigra are great but so are the champs I mentioned above. Half of the HoF champs are just bad, dont try to gaslight me into saying Apoc and Ibom are good they are mid at the best. You guys are really gonna say some champ that was considered good 5 years ago is better than a brand new buffs which are actually broken (nostalgia sucks). Expect sentry every other banquet champs u find in BGs deck, Apoc and Ibom will never be considered good for Bgs deck.

ItsClobberinTime

Banquet champs have been out for 6 months and the only ones I see consistently in GC are Sentinel and Medusa. It's been a week since HoF and Nick, FAM, Tigra and DPhoenix are everywhere, this isn't about iBom and Apoc alone so stop trying to grab the weakest in the crystal to make a point (also as much you want to say they're mid, they're not, they're niche but not mid). I get that you're trying to be optimistic but you got multiple people disagreeing with you for a reason lol.

Ps. iBom is my next r4 and I'm currently in Arcane 1, he will be in my deck every single season and I'll make sure to tag you when I share screenshots of him doing some cool stuff cause you clearly have no idea, you just say what you hear other people saying instead of forming your own judgement.

Harryatomix

I am clearly forming my own opinion here, it is u guys that are in echo chamber unable to accept others opinions. Not bragging but I am in quantum 1 and I didn't see a single ibom or apoc during my climb. Stop acting like BPCW and DPX are not in many bg decks. DPX is consistently banned in this meta, ofcourse people are gonna try the new champs they got what did u expect. Stop including Dpheonix in these conversations, she is only available to those who maxed the event, she is like WeaponX kinda exclusive, she is not in HoF crystals.

Nick Fam and Tigra are still very relevant champs, but the amount of utility and relevance Banquet champs have is underrated. DPX, Purgatory, Medusa, Sentinel and BPCW all are tier 1 champs with utility and nuke potential, it is basically 3:5 with both events. Not to mention how friendly the box gatcha system was.

Harryatomix

I would like to see what Ibom can do on defense, cause there are a lot of poison immunes in game and he is arse on attack anyway.

captain_rogers

Deadpool x is definitely a very meta relevant mutant in bgs. I literally see him on every deck he is one of the most versatile nukes in the game.

ItsClobberinTime

1. Most nuke attackers aren't poison immune and the ones that are deal physical damage, so at the very least you have a defender who worst case scenario will be tanky, best case they lose the round instantly because they didn't draft a poison immune, you are literally just spewing words without even thinking for a second.
2. He isn't arse either, he literally throws one sp2 and the fight is over after an sp1, damagewise he's fine he's just not crazy when it comes to utility.

I literally just said they're niche, but niche isn't the same as mid, you can't read?
DPX is everywhere right now because of the GC meta lol he's not normally in every deck in the same way Medusa and Sentinel are.
She is apart of the event and a lot of people up here have her, so yes I will include her.
The fact that you're calling Purgatory a nuke tells me you know absolutely nothing lmfao nobody here said those champs suck but calling that pool better than the HoF one is just straight up delusional.

ItsClobberinTime

I haven't seen him in decks as often as I have seen Medusa and Sentinel so I'm speaking from experience here, this week I have seen many 6* but it's due to the GC meta. He is meta relevant but he's not quite as relevant as Medusa and Sentinel tho it is pretty close, every single deck I face has at least one of the two at r3.

Harryatomix

You lost me when u said DPX is not good enough. Are u aware what a beast purg is in raids.

ItsClobberinTime

I didn't say he's not good enough, I said I don't see him as often as I do Medusa and Sentinel, you definitely can't read then.

Lmfao her being good in Raids does not make her a nuke. Like I said, you're just talking without thinking.

Herbal_Taxman

Listen man, if you want to r4 iBom that’s your problem. Don’t take it out on us.

ItsClobberinTime

I will in fact r4 whoever I want to r4 lol not sure what you mean by us though, nobody agreed with him HoF champs > Banquet champs.

NONYABIZZ

Hof pool is alot stronger than the banquet pool however, do i prefer the banquet because of acquisition???
ABSOLUTELY

RottenSwamps

Why is this thread just on about HoF vs Banquet bro 😭😭😭
Phoenix ain't in either of them 🥀🥀🥀🥀

Harryatomix

Well u certainly don’t play in higher level bgs considering how much u spend on this game. She may not be a nuke but she is a valuable champ to have, I use her to take down serpent in 70s and she is good against techs because of armour breaks.

ItsClobberinTime

This was the first and only event I've ever spent on because of Dark Phoenix, but sure I'm so bad at the game I can't even get past Uru due to my lack of skills you're right

I never said she was bad, but you calling her a nuke is laughable lol again I don't think any of the Banquet champs are bad and I do think they were waaay better than Omega Days but you saying they're better than the HoF ones is hilarious.

WednesdayLength

Idk what rotation people are using for Phoenix so I could be just doing what everyone else is doing but if you can get a couple of sp2s off and just keep doing basic attacks without heavy charging or using the special 3 she does absurd damage. Most of the videos I've seen people have been doing the heavy charge after the sp2 which literally just reduces the damage you're doing. Got lucky in an incursions fight and got 3 sp2s in before I hit 3 bars and the amount of incinerate damage is monstrous

Graves_3

👆this you bro? Or did kabam just hand over a red guardian free of cost out of the goodness of their hearts?

tnair2015

So...is Dark Phoenix good? What was the conclusion of this thread ?

doctorb

Conclusion: she's excellent 👌

WednesdayLength

Different character

Flavyjay

Such a hilarious thread

ShashankGupta

Anyone has r3 phoneix here?
Was wondering how many defenders she can take in bg like zola sentinel arcade
Can she take any other defender?
Obviously she can't take maestro bishop and onslaught because of incinterate