New war format is great, and I hope it stays

hurricant

I haven't done war in like 2 years until this change. The new map is smaller, so it's quicker to complete. Being able to teleport anywhere is amazing in a smaller alliance like ours where some people don't play war. In the previous map, I could only finish 1 path and then the rest is unexplored, and now being able to explore a whole map is way better. The force nodes are really fun. It doesn't seem like anything is impossible. Are there difficult matchups? Of course. But it all seems doable. Whereas before some of the nodes and champ combos seemed impossible if you don't bring the right counter. I prefer the force nodes like the root one to the nullify ones because any champ can do it, but at least there's way more of the root type ones than the ones you need a specific champ ability and I think that's awesome and makes war more accessible. Plus the new force nodes allow for big yellow numbers and that's always fun. It feels rewarding killing the enemies in this new war.

I know a lot of people don't like the new setup and would like to hear why though. What do you guys like or dislike about it? What would you change or keep?

xenchief

Agree. Would love this to be a permanent change through gold at least.

MoeyTehr

I also like the new format (after initially hating it) for the reasons hurricant described.

I know this probably won't happen but perhaps there can be two kinds of maps? The previous map for full, very active alliances and the current map for smaller alliances who aren't quite as active anymore but still want to participate.

RiderofHell

This new format is completely stupid, Whoever made this shouldn't have been involved in any games at all.

Luke9523

Yea, i am loving the new AW style. The old one was dated, repetitive, stagnant and boring.
I would welcome this as a permanent change for a few seasons.

JESUSCHRIST

At higher levels AW, there are 10 paths and every player can only take 1 path, you can't explore the whole map by yourself, that's lower level AW

SirGamesBond

OP be like... jump to any node clear alone fun fun....

Alliance war: ❌️
Solo war: ✅️

ItsClobberinTime

100% agree, I do wish we had 2-3 defenders per person instead of 1 but with smaller hps, but this is still way better than old AW. Old one used to be extremelytime consuming and required a ton of investment, more than BGs or AQ ever have. My alliance stopped doing wars two years ago because of how time consuming the game mode was but now we're 100% back and about to hit Plat again which we hadn't done since we quit two years ago.

Also this is just straight up satisfying I mean come on

Slig

Needs to be a ban list for particular nodes. There shouldn’t be any node/champ combo that makes it impossible to gain charges.

NoahSansman

Slig said:

Needs to be a ban list for particular nodes. There shouldn’t be any node/champ combo that makes it impossible to gain charges.

Give us an example of an impossible combo.

OmegaMCOC

RiderofHell said:

This new format is completely stupid, Whoever made this shouldn't have been involved in any games at all.

cry about it

OmegaMCOC

I'm loving this new aw sm im spending units to fight more idc if im doing too much the fights are so fun and i hope they'll keep them like this

Baron427

There seriously needs to be a backup though, I have a guy that isn't available on vacation and we're gonna lose wars because of it.

hurricant

RiderofHell said:

This new format is completely stupid, Whoever made this shouldn't have been involved in any games at all.

Elaborate? Why do you dislike it and what would you change? I'm genuinely wondering why people dislike it

hurricant

JESUSCHRIST said:

At higher levels AW, there are 10 paths and every player can only take 1 path, you can't explore the whole map by yourself, that's lower level AW

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

hurricant

SirGamesBond said:

OP be like... jump to any node clear alone fun fun....

Alliance war: ❌️
Solo war: ✅️

As opposed to each person clearing their own lane? same difference, less nodes, more options to teleport

hurricant

Baron427 said:

There seriously needs to be a backup though, I have a guy that isn't available on vacation and we're gonna lose wars because of it.

Can't you teleport to his nodes to clear them?

dr2ws

I love the new AW, as somebody who has a busy life I only need ten minutes max for it. Before it was so much longer due to waiting on energy. This is such a good change. But seeing multiple Serpents and Bullseyes shouldn’t be allowed, make diversity even more important please.

RoyalRose1510

New Wars
+ Simple and Time Saving

But i prefer old Wars System

Reasons
* Not a team game anymore ( Literally no planning or discussion required if Ally following fixed nodes per member )

* Waste of Rankups ( There are players who have tons of rank4 champs all those rankups going waste regarding wars as u can't place more than 1)

* Too repetitive ( This new war system remove the fun aspect , old wars are about finding new matchups and interaction on different nodes & paths but with this change we literally seeing all same 10 defenders )

* No work of Leadership ( Old wars system the officers and leader have to use their experience in placements of defenders but new system eliminate these duties of Officers)

* Not Suicide Friendly ( If someone running suicide masteries setup this new map encourage them to shut those down as these fights are long and require to use ur spcls on most nodes usually which result in hurting from recoils and make fight more risky if messing up . Old wars system was suicide friendly as helathpools was shorter and player can make the minimum recoils dmg and could finish the champs much faster )

* Will become Boring as more seasons pass ( Currently the new wars map is fresh for everyone so it's getting enjoyable regarding new matchups but as time goes up the player base will start to feel bored as fighting same defenders literally for most upcoming seasons )

My thoughts are that this new war map should be implemented to lower war tiers while old map should return to High & atleast mid war tiers 🙏
Or other Suggestion
Make this map as seperate war mode like raids for AQ maybe we can play this map off season or one in quarter or something

hurricant

I agree with that but kabam has made these defenders so OP that it makes more sense to put 10 serpents and lose on diversity than put 10 different defenders and have them all die without as many kills as the 10 serpents would get

NoahSansman

hurricant said:

I agree with that but kabam has made these defenders so OP that it makes more sense to put 10 serpents and lose on diversity than put 10 different defenders and have them all die without as many kills as the 10 serpents would get

Not only is serpent a pretty mediocre defender on most nodes but also the sheer loss in defender diversity points would prevent the ally from reaching higher tiers. There are no duplicate defenders in tier 4, 3, 2, and 1 wars. I can tell you that.

OmegaMCOC

Baron427 said:

There seriously needs to be a backup though, I have a guy that isn't available on vacation and we're gonna lose wars because of it.

You can use 2 champs so use one for one fight and the other for the second fight its as simple as that

altavista

There’s pros and cons to both formats. Obviously, people who are invested in the old format are gonna be mad about the new format, and people who thought the old format was tedious was love the new format.

I think the best things to do going forward is to create a Raid vs AQ type distinction. Kabam will have to tinker with what the rewards are and also find a way to ensure enough participation, but allowing an Alliance to chose whether to spend a week/season doing the old format or the new format.

hurricant

NoahSansman said:

hurricant said:

I agree with that but kabam has made these defenders so OP that it makes more sense to put 10 serpents and lose on diversity than put 10 different defenders and have them all die without as many kills as the 10 serpents would get

Not only is serpent a pretty mediocre defender on most nodes but also the sheer loss in defender diversity points would prevent the ally from reaching higher tiers. There are no duplicate defenders in tier 4, 3, 2, and 1 wars. I can tell you that.

maybe but in low and mid tier wheres, he slays. last war we had a 7R3 get 120 kills.

Baron427

OmegaMCOC said:

Baron427 said:

There seriously needs to be a backup though, I have a guy that isn't available on vacation and we're gonna lose wars because of it.

You can use 2 champs so use one for one fight and the other for the second fight its as simple as that

It's not though, idk what level of war you play but when you get higher you can only take 1 fight per war.

NoahSansman

hurricant said:

NoahSansman said:

hurricant said:

I agree with that but kabam has made these defenders so OP that it makes more sense to put 10 serpents and lose on diversity than put 10 different defenders and have them all die without as many kills as the 10 serpents would get

Not only is serpent a pretty mediocre defender on most nodes but also the sheer loss in defender diversity points would prevent the ally from reaching higher tiers. There are no duplicate defenders in tier 4, 3, 2, and 1 wars. I can tell you that.

maybe but in low and mid tier wheres, he slays. last war we had a 7R3 get 120 kills.

If an ally is dying 120 times to a serpent then they should stay in low tier wars.

Baron427

hurricant said:

Baron427 said:

There seriously needs to be a backup though, I have a guy that isn't available on vacation and we're gonna lose wars because of it.

Can't you teleport to his nodes to clear them?

No not at higher tiers. Everyone can only take 1 fight

Graves_3

hurricant said:

NoahSansman said:

hurricant said:

I agree with that but kabam has made these defenders so OP that it makes more sense to put 10 serpents and lose on diversity than put 10 different defenders and have them all die without as many kills as the 10 serpents would get

Not only is serpent a pretty mediocre defender on most nodes but also the sheer loss in defender diversity points would prevent the ally from reaching higher tiers. There are no duplicate defenders in tier 4, 3, 2, and 1 wars. I can tell you that.

maybe but in low and mid tier wheres, he slays. last war we had a 7R3 get 120 kills.

Any death after the first 10 is of no consequence. 11 and 120 deaths for same defender give you the exact same number of points.

Skyfaw

I personally don’t like it and everyone I know who plays war at the top doesn’t like it either. For me the camaraderie isn’t there, used to be about teamwork to clear a map. Instead everyone just gets 1 fight with no back up. Also 1 fight just isn’t enough. War is at its best when you can take 6+ fights. It actually feels fulfilling to get a big workload and to actually earn a MVP. I don’t know how they decide who gets it now.

This is already boring and I cold heartedly disagree about champ node restrictions. Some of these nodes/placements make it to where there is only 1 or 2 champs that can work. Particularly on node 1 and 3. When they implement a ban system I wonder what kind of experience you will have then. I can already foresee major headaches and people making threads of how impossible some of these fights are.

Cyberguy7777

Love the new format. Please don’t go backwards.