Could this be a way to save WoF

So I'm read various reasons on why players feel the WoF was a let down as Everest Content, and most boiled down the Over complicated/ Challenges content and underwhelming rewards.

Now one thing we all know about the MVOC community is that they will grind the content to hell and back if the rewards is good enough for the effort.

So could this be a solution?

Add a Solo Objective - Complete WoF in a month (of release)

Rewards :- 2 Selectors for the Omega Day champ

Comments

Furrymoosen

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.

NONYABIZZ

Bro, delete this

Anotherconcernplayer

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.

Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.

TheUglyone123

Yeah no, still wouldn’t have a ton of drive to do this quest even with this buff. They either need to heavily buff the rewards, or heavily reduce the difficulty. It’s not worth my time or stress it will cause. Needing to have one or two champs out of 300 (it’s actually less than 300, cause not every champ is available as a 7 star) to do a specific fight is terrible design.

Furrymoosen

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.
Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.

The rewards would at a minimum need to fall in line with Epoch and then have more added.
Epoch came with a ton of refined XP - why does this quest have 0?
Epoch came with an R4 gem PLUS a t7b, while this gives only enough t7b for one R4.
Epoch had 30m gold, this has none.
Epoch had a 2<3 gem and several 1<2 gems, this content has nothing for earlier ranks except T4a.
Epoch had several class 7* crystals, a titan, a titan Nexus, and a 7* nexus; this has a titan, a 7* nexus, a handful of shards, and maybe a titan Nexus if that's what you choose instead of a champ that may or may not just be 20 sigs.
Epoch has a generic 7* AG, this one is a class crystal

Epoch was easier, and it seems that Epoch was likely faster. Epoch was also definitely enjoyable content. Yet the rewards for this content are a joke by comparison.
At an absolute minimum, the rewards should meet Epoch (plus the selector, plus the the t7b that gives another full R4) or the difficulty and time investment should be below Epoch.

Edit: forgot to add the part that Epoch was in a lot of ways less restrictive too. You needed the right champs, plural, not just the right champ, singular.

TheUglyone123

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.
Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.
The rewards would at a minimum need to fall in line with Epoch and then have more added.
Epoch came with a ton of refined XP - why does this quest have 0?
Epoch came with an R4 gem PLUS a t7b, while this gives only enough t7b for R4.
Epoch had 30m gold, this has none.
Epoch had a 2<3 gem and several 1<2 gems, this content has nothing for earlier ranks except T4a.
Epoch had several class 7* crystals, a titan, a titan Nexus, and a 7* nexus; this has a titan, a 7* nexus, a handful of shards, and maybe a titan Nexus if that's what you choose instead of a champ that may or may not just be 20 sigs.
Epoch has a generic 7* AG, this one is a class crystal

Epoch was easier, and it seems that Epoch was likely faster. Epoch was also definitely enjoyable content. Yet the rewards for this content are a joke by comparison.
At an absolute minimum, the rewards should meet Epoch (plus the selector, plus the the t7b that gives another full R4) or the difficulty and time investment should be below Epoch. </blockquote>

This describes it perfectly. Epoch was difficult, and limited the classes we could use, but the rewards were astronomically better. Also, it wasn’t nearly as restrictive as this.

BringPopcorn

I come to realization that this is not really Everest content, this is the complete opposite. This is Ocean content, designed for whales that have all the champs, counters ranked and sigged.
Who do you want from Omega so badly...

Kingering_King

No. Yes. If the rewards were worth the walk through hell and death, yes I agree. But it would have to be some hellova reward to make me attempt that **** again. Tone down the question by a lot, and I will put 1% of my brain to THINK about entering it again.

Hoitado

😂

CheeseMaster482

No rewards will make up for it. Unless a new title came out, there is no point in completing the quest. Kabam needs to add some actual replayability to their game instead of this slop.

Anotherconcernplayer

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.
Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.
The rewards would at a minimum need to fall in line with Epoch and then have more added.
Epoch came with a ton of refined XP - why does this quest have 0?
Epoch came with an R4 gem PLUS a t7b, while this gives only enough t7b for one R4.
Epoch had 30m gold, this has none.
Epoch had a 2<3 gem and several 1<2 gems, this content has nothing for earlier ranks except T4a.
Epoch had several class 7* crystals, a titan, a titan Nexus, and a 7* nexus; this has a titan, a 7* nexus, a handful of shards, and maybe a titan Nexus if that's what you choose instead of a champ that may or may not just be 20 sigs.
Epoch has a generic 7* AG, this one is a class crystal

Epoch was easier, and it seems that Epoch was likely faster. Epoch was also definitely enjoyable content. Yet the rewards for this content are a joke by comparison.
At an absolute minimum, the rewards should meet Epoch (plus the selector, plus the the t7b that gives another full R4) or the difficulty and time investment should be below Epoch.

Edit: forgot to add the part that Epoch was in a lot of ways less restrictive too. You needed the right champs, plural, not just the right champ, singular. </blockquote>

Ah I see, thank you very much for your details reply. That does make sense and I ses where you are coming from.

I would also love it is Kabam would buff/add those extra you mentioned to this content. I guess for me I was think about what realistically Kabam wpuld implement, and the Omega Day champs seem not too far fetch.

Remewhen the CCP Carina came out, the Tigra and Mojo challenges was way over turn and the rewards was really lacking, especially on the rank up materials side, and Kabam didn't bother doing anything.

I guess this is just an other one of tbose content that will collect dust for most players (ironically you can't actually get Dust from this challenge) 🤣🤣🤣

Furrymoosen

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.
Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.
The rewards would at a minimum need to fall in line with Epoch and then have more added.
Epoch came with a ton of refined XP - why does this quest have 0?
Epoch came with an R4 gem PLUS a t7b, while this gives only enough t7b for one R4.
Epoch had 30m gold, this has none.
Epoch had a 2<3 gem and several 1<2 gems, this content has nothing for earlier ranks except T4a.
Epoch had several class 7* crystals, a titan, a titan Nexus, and a 7* nexus; this has a titan, a 7* nexus, a handful of shards, and maybe a titan Nexus if that's what you choose instead of a champ that may or may not just be 20 sigs.
Epoch has a generic 7* AG, this one is a class crystal

Epoch was easier, and it seems that Epoch was likely faster. Epoch was also definitely enjoyable content. Yet the rewards for this content are a joke by comparison.
At an absolute minimum, the rewards should meet Epoch (plus the selector, plus the the t7b that gives another full R4) or the difficulty and time investment should be below Epoch.

Edit: forgot to add the part that Epoch was in a lot of ways less restrictive too. You needed the right champs, plural, not just the right champ, singular. </blockquote>

Ah I see, thank you very much for your details reply. That does make sense and I ses where you are coming from.

I would also love it is Kabam would buff/add those extra you mentioned to this content. I guess for me I was think about what realistically Kabam wpuld implement, and the Omega Day champs seem not too far fetch.

Remewhen the CCP Carina came out, the Tigra and Mojo challenges was way over turn and the rewards was really lacking, especially on the rank up materials side, and Kabam didn't bother doing anything.

I guess this is just an other one of tbose content that will collect dust for most players (ironically you can't actually get Dust from this challenge) 🤣🤣🤣
Maybe it's just my frustration with no longer wanting to do content I was looking forward to talking, but I don't care what Kabam thinks is realistic to solve this. This is a colossal failure. Yes, some people are still going to do the content, but that's besides the point. Kabam is asking players to dance for pennies.
The conversation I am interested in, and the conversation I hope Kabam enters into before they escape for the weekend, is what the reasonable expectations for the players are based on history and progression. To increase the difficulty while reducing the rewards is unreasonable. To take the fun out of a game and make every moment a pain point is unreasonable. To make clear statements and then walk them back is unreasonable. To assume that increased difficulty should result in increased rewards is reasonable. To assume that a game can and should be both challenging AND (not or) enjoyable is reasonable.
So yeah, I know our first thought might be to find a compromise that isn't asking too much of Kabam because it may be more realistic that they actually do it, but the reasonable thing here is to not take the 20 steps back they did when they released the content.
Someone said somewhere else that these rewards are going to be outdated by July 4th - ya know, that sale that starts in less than 3 weeks. And they're right, but that's because these rewards are already a regression from previous rewards, yet somehow we also have to work harder to get them. It's unreasonable.

TheUglyone123

This is the first piece of Everest content that I am looking at that I haven’t done, and I have ZERO desire to even come close to attempting it. When I came back to the game, Necro had been out for almost a year. I was looking forward to attempting it and completing it. I had full access to my roster and it took meticulous planning, but I enjoyed the content. When Epoch came out, my roster was significantly smaller than it is now, with zero R4s. I loved attempting it, learning the content, and fighting Ares. Not only were the rewards better, as @Furrymoosen laid out really well, but the fights were creative and I think it’s one of the best pieces content I’ve done in a long time.

This content is way too restrictive and discourages creativity. It’s a rank-up brick wall. It’s a pull this specific champ or don’t attempt the content.

If this is aspirational content, then it will only be aspirational for two more weeks…when July 4th releases. Because I can almost guarantee the units I could spend on revives on this content will be more worthwhile to spend on July 4th offers.

The restrictive nature of this quest, compared to previous quests, with July 4th around the corner gives me zero drive to attempt this content.

ItsClobberinTime

Omega Days champs are booty compared to what we have now lmfao no way

summerdeer

The only way to save wheel of fate is to give a Thor rags 🤣🤣🤣

Nabz034

So I'm read various reasons on why players feel the WoF was a let down as Everest Content, and most boiled down the Over complicated/ Challenges content and underwhelming rewards.

Now one thing we all know about the MVOC community is that they will grind the content to hell and back if the rewards is good enough for the effort.

So could this be a solution?

Add a Solo Objective - Complete WoF in a month (of release)

Rewards :- 2 Selectors for the Omega Day champ

Even if they tripled the rewards, I still wouldn’t do it.

Epoch was fun, challenging…WOF is just awful.

Gildarts99

This is the first piece of Everest content that I am looking at that I haven’t done, and I have ZERO desire to even come close to attempting it. When I came back to the game, Necro had been out for almost a year. I was looking forward to attempting it and completing it. I had full access to my roster and it took meticulous planning, but I enjoyed the content. When Epoch came out, my roster was significantly smaller than it is now, with zero R4s. I loved attempting it, learning the content, and fighting Ares. Not only were the rewards better, as @Furrymoosen laid out really well, but the fights were creative and I think it’s one of the best pieces content I’ve done in a long time.

This content is way too restrictive and discourages creativity. It’s a rank-up brick wall. It’s a pull this specific champ or don’t attempt the content.

If this is aspirational content, then it will only be aspirational for two more weeks…when July 4th releases. Because I can almost guarantee the units I could spend on revives on this content will be more worthwhile to spend on July 4th offers.

The restrictive nature of this quest, compared to previous quests, with July 4th around the corner gives me zero drive to attempt this content.

My point exactly. I am just not interested at all. Will probably just leave it there like some of the Carina challenges. Maybe, some very long time in the future when I have something to make it easy, who knows but for now, nerhhh I'll pass.

Bendy

Is there just an Omega Day champ you really want? Because this wouldn't come remotely close bridging the gap.
Not really, it just that they were the last year (but mot the most recent) exclusive champs so thought it might be long enough for Kabam to consider releasing then.

Would love hear your thought on what wpuld ve the Balance rewards for this content.

Whatever it is, I would imagine the Solo Object is the best route for it, since people already started on the content.
The rewards would at a minimum need to fall in line with Epoch and then have more added.
Epoch came with a ton of refined XP - why does this quest have 0?
Epoch came with an R4 gem PLUS a t7b, while this gives only enough t7b for one R4.
Epoch had 30m gold, this has none.
Epoch had a 2<3 gem and several 1<2 gems, this content has nothing for earlier ranks except T4a.
Epoch had several class 7* crystals, a titan, a titan Nexus, and a 7* nexus; this has a titan, a 7* nexus, a handful of shards, and maybe a titan Nexus if that's what you choose instead of a champ that may or may not just be 20 sigs.
Epoch has a generic 7* AG, this one is a class crystal

Epoch was easier, and it seems that Epoch was likely faster. Epoch was also definitely enjoyable content. Yet the rewards for this content are a joke by comparison.
At an absolute minimum, the rewards should meet Epoch (plus the selector, plus the the t7b that gives another full R4) or the difficulty and time investment should be below Epoch.

Edit: forgot to add the part that Epoch was in a lot of ways less restrictive too. You needed the right champs, plural, not just the right champ, singular. </blockquote>

I think we will never get anything like epoch as maybe for its time too generous in terms of rewards but this content should of been at best same rewarding as that maybe more rewarding due to how restricting it is compared

JESUSCHRIST

Save Google servers first

Anotherconcernplayer

So I'm read various reasons on why players feel the WoF was a let down as Everest Content, and most boiled down the Over complicated/ Challenges content and underwhelming rewards.

Now one thing we all know about the MVOC community is that they will grind the content to hell and back if the rewards is good enough for the effort.

So could this be a solution?

Add a Solo Objective - Complete WoF in a month (of release)

Rewards :- 2 Selectors for the Omega Day champ
Even if they tripled the rewards, I still wouldn’t do it.

Epoch was fun, challenging…WOF is just awful.

Yep on this matter my early thought was clearly off point.

I do see @Furrymoosen points and agreed with lost of it. As mentioned above, I go approaching this (like I od most of the time), is what realistically I could see Kabam doing. But yeah WoF issue seem to contain much more layers of problem.