July 4th deals better not disappoint F2P

Last year J4 deals gave these cats for 750 units

Right now every valient can buy them for less then 5k RADIANCE

What's your take on how the deals will be an upgrade or better then last year since r4 are the norm and 7* basic crystal have lost value.
Is 7* crystal at 750 units even worth it today?

Comments

Dr. Crab

Are they tomorrow or Friday, I think they changed the time this time?

Paul_Rudd

F2P make a big community for this game evolved. So kabam should pay attention to them.

P2W will be bored if no F2P there. Many games have died after changed too much to P2W

There are many free rewards that the game gives F2P players, they’re not always “good” rewards like titans and R4 materials but the F2P community doesn’t keep the game alive lol, seems like a big reach to assume the ones that don’t spend money are the ones keeping the servers up, but maybe that’s just me. I do think that the unit deals for J4 should be really good, so I agree that they should make it worthwhile if F2P players are gonna drop 36k units on all the unit offers especially with the time it takes to try and grind said units out

MrSakuragi

Are they tomorrow or Friday, I think they changed the time this time?

Friday

mbrace

What will the F2P players do? Not pay for anything again?

If FTP players all got fed up enough and quit, it would cause quite a bit of disruption. While a small group of whales might be enough to keep the lights on, it doesn’t keep the game alive. Whales will get bored too if most of the community is pushed away.

Montycarlo

Why do F2P always sound like Kabam owes them so much?

If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.

Montycarlo

F2P make a big community for this game evolved. So kabam should pay attention to them.

P2W will be bored if no F2P there. Many games have died after changed too much to P2W

Agree and to say they are the big community is wrong when they are basically 80+% of players based which is in 100 thousands+ in numbers of playerbase

skylight03

If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.

Huh? P2W is not the lifeline of this business when they're the ones actually paying? This game wouldn't have lasted for 10 yrs now if not for the whales. And since you're comparing to social media platforms, those are alive because of ads. Maybe Kabam should start running those then for F2P.

BattleWarriar

Why do F2P always sound like Kabam owes them so much?
If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.

Bro is gonna be shocked when he finds out about social media staying afloat due to ads

Tairique_turay0

@dv99999 People disagree with you… but you’re absolutely correct. It’s literally common sense.

BKSwisherSweet

F2P will feel the burn

From not getting a 7* Human Torch

captain_rogers

F2P will feel the burn

From not getting a 7* Human Torch

Flame On!!

in my ass

BKSwisherSweet

F2P will feel the burn

From not getting a 7* Human Torch

Flame On!!

in my ass

I’m guessing that too is F2P

TotemCorruption

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.

TotemCorruption

Also, I don't see a need to turn every sales event into a war between F2Ps and whales.
A lot of players fall in the middle and just want fairness from Kabam, where spending gets you an advantage but doesn't ruin the game for the rest of the playerbase.

startropics

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.

it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.

TotemCorruption

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.

An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

No way Jose GIF

startropics

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.

in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...

MrSanguini

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.

in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...

Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?

Squammo

We are coming to a point in the game where it must be getting really tricky for Kabam to find the right thing to add to the offers. Titan is the biggest thing right now crystal wise. Titan nexus are a thing. Do they now make 5 champ Titan nexus? Will there be entire Titan pool selectors at some point? It’s difficult.

Personally I think we might see 1-2 rank 4 and 2024 selectors from the most expensive unit offers and half a rank 4 from each Odin. I think it’s still too early for full on r4 gems from an Odin. Hopefully something better than a class 7 star selector, though. I’m not a big fan of those. We will definitely see fantastic force stuff. Like a FF 7 star nexus paired with sig stones and AG, maybe.

startropics

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.

in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?

let's check cyber monday 2024 again:

summoners market milestone:
1x 2-3 generic

cash offers:
-4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin)
-4 t4a (1 per black panthers)

hunter's market:
-7x t4a
-1x 2-3 crystal
-2x 2-3 gem

TOTAL r3s last cyber:
-3x generic 2-3s
-5x 2-3 crystals
-3.66x 2-3 from catalysts

11.66 r3s....

6 could be very possible tomorrow and another 10+ in november.

MrSakuragi

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.

in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
let's check cyber monday 2024 again:

summoners market milestone:
1x 2-3 generic

cash offers:
-4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin)
-4 t4a (1 per black panthers)

hunter's market:
-7x t4a
-1x 2-3 crystal
-2x 2-3 gem

TOTAL r3s last cyber:
-3x generic 2-3s
-5x 2-3 crystals
-3.66x 2-3 from catalysts

11.66 r3s....

6 could be very possible tomorrow and another 10+ in november.

Yep exactly. Problem is he’s comparing it to banquet offers and not CW.

altavista

Never understood the fascination of FTP vs P2W. Everything that FTP has access to, P2W players do as well. Its not like P2W players are "locked out" from the FTP rewards if they spend any money. If you're complaining about the widening gap between FTP and P2W, then "deals that do not disappoint" FTP does nothing to stop that.

The better distinction is "July 4th deals better not disappoint Valiants." Since you've reached the top of your progression level, the deals must provide a bonus reason to keep playing. This game is just a hamster wheel that needs more carrots (Progression title or rewards) dangled to keep players playing

Zacharias10719

So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across.
Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?

the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.

We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?

it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.

in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
let's check cyber monday 2024 again:

summoners market milestone:
1x 2-3 generic

cash offers:
-4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin)
-4 t4a (1 per black panthers)

hunter's market:
-7x t4a
-1x 2-3 crystal
-2x 2-3 gem

TOTAL r3s last cyber:
-3x generic 2-3s
-5x 2-3 crystals
-3.66x 2-3 from catalysts

11.66 r3s....

6 could be very possible tomorrow and another 10+ in november.
Yep exactly. Problem is he’s comparing it to banquet offers and not CW.

He's comparing it to last year's j4 deals, the banquet is probably a typo. Last years j4 deals gave 1.5 t4a per odin.

BringPopcorn

People don't seem to understand a simple problem.
If the F2P deals (unit deals) are bad so be it, they are bad what are you going to do, you are F2P after all.
If the F2P deals are really good, this is not good for you cause the whales are going to get good cash deals + the good unit deals.
J4 qnd CM has no positive balance at all. Good or bad they widen the gap by A LOT.
Also people have a very weird notion of calling most spenders whales, or someone who spends 300-500 dollars a whale, lol that's really not a whale.

Razorlord7

All interesting points. Interesting thing to note will be that if we're moving at a faster pace to rank 5 or 8 stars ? This sale will determine that.

Jnacua

You know why they are bringing out Human Torch? Because hes gonna torch that wallet.

peixemacaco

9k units and waiting for another R3

smdam38

Just stop saying F2P. Nobody cares.

Game is the game either way. It’s not going to effect how you play.

Halley

Kinda funny that players play for free and still ask for something more, you surely not understand how business run, my baby boy 😂
At first they need f2p, yes for sure, but in 2nd phase, when they had a certain amount of players, they're gonna sell items, not f2p anymore. 😮‍💨

ShashankGupta

I saw this leak on line idk how true it is but I am not excited for July 4 this time might save for cyber weekend honestly