F2P make a big community for this game evolved. So kabam should pay attention to them.
P2W will be bored if no F2P there. Many games have died after changed too much to P2W
There are many free rewards that the game gives F2P players, they’re not always “good” rewards like titans and R4 materials but the F2P community doesn’t keep the game alive lol, seems like a big reach to assume the ones that don’t spend money are the ones keeping the servers up, but maybe that’s just me. I do think that the unit deals for J4 should be really good, so I agree that they should make it worthwhile if F2P players are gonna drop 36k units on all the unit offers especially with the time it takes to try and grind said units out
What will the F2P players do? Not pay for anything again?
If FTP players all got fed up enough and quit, it would cause quite a bit of disruption. While a small group of whales might be enough to keep the lights on, it doesn’t keep the game alive. Whales will get bored too if most of the community is pushed away.
Why do F2P always sound like Kabam owes them so much?
If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.
If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.
Huh? P2W is not the lifeline of this business when they're the ones actually paying? This game wouldn't have lasted for 10 yrs now if not for the whales. And since you're comparing to social media platforms, those are alive because of ads. Maybe Kabam should start running those then for F2P.
Why do F2P always sound like Kabam owes them so much?
If F2P players left, all the whales will have nobody to show off their rosters and their unskilled game in BG where they win simply because of roster sizes and therefore the sales will PLUMMET. it's not the paytowin players that are the lifeline of this business it's the F2P. Do u think twitter(x) is alive because all the people are paying there? Do u think all the people pay facebook to use it? Or instagram or games like Fortnite or PUBG? whatever app u think it is? Without HUGE numbers to show no business gets investment to work and earn in software business so why don't yall SHUT YOUR TR## about it and get some education about how the real world works.
Bro is gonna be shocked when he finds out about social media staying afloat due to ads
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
Also, I don't see a need to turn every sales event into a war between F2Ps and whales. A lot of players fall in the middle and just want fairness from Kabam, where spending gets you an advantage but doesn't ruin the game for the rest of the playerbase.
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.
in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
We are coming to a point in the game where it must be getting really tricky for Kabam to find the right thing to add to the offers. Titan is the biggest thing right now crystal wise. Titan nexus are a thing. Do they now make 5 champ Titan nexus? Will there be entire Titan pool selectors at some point? It’s difficult.
Personally I think we might see 1-2 rank 4 and 2024 selectors from the most expensive unit offers and half a rank 4 from each Odin. I think it’s still too early for full on r4 gems from an Odin. Hopefully something better than a class 7 star selector, though. I’m not a big fan of those. We will definitely see fantastic force stuff. Like a FF 7 star nexus paired with sig stones and AG, maybe.
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.
in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
let's check cyber monday 2024 again:
summoners market milestone: 1x 2-3 generic
cash offers: -4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin) -4 t4a (1 per black panthers)
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.
in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
let's check cyber monday 2024 again:
summoners market milestone: 1x 2-3 generic
cash offers: -4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin) -4 t4a (1 per black panthers)
Never understood the fascination of FTP vs P2W. Everything that FTP has access to, P2W players do as well. Its not like P2W players are "locked out" from the FTP rewards if they spend any money. If you're complaining about the widening gap between FTP and P2W, then "deals that do not disappoint" FTP does nothing to stop that.
The better distinction is "July 4th deals better not disappoint Valiants." Since you've reached the top of your progression level, the deals must provide a bonus reason to keep playing. This game is just a hamster wheel that needs more carrots (Progression title or rewards) dangled to keep players playing
So I did give this video another shot and watched the whole thing and I have to say, this might be some of the dumbest predictions about a sale I've come across. Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards. So all of that plus 3100 units for $100? That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
it's not a stupid prediction. how do you think superwhales always end up with 60-80+ champs of the highest rank by december? they might have 15 r4s right now, how do you think they get there, the magical rankup fairy?
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
An insane Odin offer like that isn't how mega whales get ahead. That type of offer would get a ton of people to spend. Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals. You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A. If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there. There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4. Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
it's not crazy. kabam loves adding big stacks of rankups in july and november for cheap. that's the entire point of these sales, they make everything else look horrible so people splurge. clear out everything tomorrow and you might get 6+ r4s.
in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Well in last year’s banquet, where R3s where the chase, there wasn’t even 1 full R3 per Odin (it was 1.5 T4A) so what makes you think this year will give all that?
let's check cyber monday 2024 again:
summoners market milestone: 1x 2-3 generic
cash offers: -4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin) -4 t4a (1 per black panthers)
People don't seem to understand a simple problem. If the F2P deals (unit deals) are bad so be it, they are bad what are you going to do, you are F2P after all. If the F2P deals are really good, this is not good for you cause the whales are going to get good cash deals + the good unit deals. J4 qnd CM has no positive balance at all. Good or bad they widen the gap by A LOT. Also people have a very weird notion of calling most spenders whales, or someone who spends 300-500 dollars a whale, lol that's really not a whale.
Kinda funny that players play for free and still ask for something more, you surely not understand how business run, my baby boy 😂 At first they need f2p, yes for sure, but in 2nd phase, when they had a certain amount of players, they're gonna sell items, not f2p anymore. 😮💨
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Like he thinks each Odin will have an R4 gem and a Titan or 7* nexus crystal and sig stones/AG shards.
So all of that plus 3100 units for $100?
That's not a prediction, that's a little boy's Xmas wishlist to Santa.
A lot of players fall in the middle and just want fairness from Kabam, where spending gets you an advantage but doesn't ruin the game for the rest of the playerbase.
the drop in value of r4s starting friday until december will be nuts.
Mega whales get ahead by buying those horrible in-between deals.
You know like the ones we see when there are no sales, like $50 for 6300 T7B fragments and 1/3 of a T4A.
If someone has like 10-15 R4s right now, that's how they got there.
There hasn't been enough end-game content rewards and big sales offers to get that many R4s.
We literally just had WoF drop a couple of weeks ago, purportedly the hardest content Kabam has ever released, and that gave only mats for one R4.
Now two weeks later people will be able to just buy 6 R4s for a few hundred bucks?
in july 2023, people got 10+ r5s...
Personally I think we might see 1-2 rank 4 and 2024 selectors from the most expensive unit offers and half a rank 4 from each Odin. I think it’s still too early for full on r4 gems from an Odin. Hopefully something better than a class 7 star selector, though. I’m not a big fan of those. We will definitely see fantastic force stuff. Like a FF 7 star nexus paired with sig stones and AG, maybe.
summoners market milestone:
1x 2-3 generic
cash offers:
-4x 2-3 crystals (1 per odin)
-4 t4a (1 per black panthers)
hunter's market:
-7x t4a
-1x 2-3 crystal
-2x 2-3 gem
TOTAL r3s last cyber:
-3x generic 2-3s
-5x 2-3 crystals
-3.66x 2-3 from catalysts
11.66 r3s....
6 could be very possible tomorrow and another 10+ in november.
The better distinction is "July 4th deals better not disappoint Valiants." Since you've reached the top of your progression level, the deals must provide a bonus reason to keep playing. This game is just a hamster wheel that needs more carrots (Progression title or rewards) dangled to keep players playing
If the F2P deals (unit deals) are bad so be it, they are bad what are you going to do, you are F2P after all.
If the F2P deals are really good, this is not good for you cause the whales are going to get good cash deals + the good unit deals.
J4 qnd CM has no positive balance at all. Good or bad they widen the gap by A LOT.
Also people have a very weird notion of calling most spenders whales, or someone who spends 300-500 dollars a whale, lol that's really not a whale.
Game is the game either way. It’s not going to effect how you play.
At first they need f2p, yes for sure, but in 2nd phase, when they had a certain amount of players, they're gonna sell items, not f2p anymore. 😮💨
I saw this leak on line idk how true it is but I am not excited for July 4 this time might save for cyber weekend honestly