How many points will we top out at for realm event?

Toproller89

Just wondering what people’s estimates are, I have done rough calculations and think we will not fall anywhere near the top milestones, just interested to hear other opinions.

Skyfaw

I’ll tell you in 64 days yw

JESUSCHRIST

Last evidenced, there are about 1 million players

Of which we can safely say 50% are not active players, 25% are casually active and 25% are fairly active

My estimation is that we won't be hitting the top milestones, hitting 20 million is already an achievement for the entire playerbase and is quite possible

Just take whatever milestones we can get, don't think so much about hitting every milestones, it just ain't possible

ahmynuts

JESUSCHRIST said:

Last evidenced, there are about 1 million players

Of which we can safely say 50% are not active players, 25% are casually active and 25% are fairly active

My estimation is that we won't be hitting the top milestones, hitting 20 million is already an achievement for the entire playerbase and is quite possible

Just take whatever milestones we can get, don't think so much about hitting every milestones, it just ain't possible

Me when I spread misinformation and straight up lie

Furrymoosen

JESUSCHRIST said:

Last evidenced, there are about 1 million players

Of which we can safely say 50% are not active players, 25% are casually active and 25% are fairly active

My estimation is that we won't be hitting the top milestones, hitting 20 million is already an achievement for the entire playerbase and is quite possible

Just take whatever milestones we can get, don't think so much about hitting every milestones, it just ain't possible

Cite your sources. And no, your imagination doesn't count.

JESUSCHRIST

JESUSCHRIST said:

Last evidenced, there are about 1 million players

Of which we can safely say 50% are not active players, 25% are casually active and 25% are fairly active

My estimation is that we won't be hitting the top milestones, hitting 20 million is already an achievement for the entire playerbase and is quite possible

Just take whatever milestones we can get, don't think so much about hitting every milestones, it just ain't possible

I mean 20 billion

JESUSCHRIST

Firstly the methods to get points

We have the following

1) Battlegrounds
2) Raids
3) Daily super event
4) Valiant gauntlet
5) August meta event special solo objective
6) Saga incursions
7) Alliance war encounter showcase
8) August special quest solo objective
9) Twitch drop

The majority of the methods aren't played by the majority of the playerbase, namely battlegrounds, raids, valiant gauntlet, saga incursions, alliance war encounter showcase

The majority of the playerbase aren't valiants, these methods are mostly played by valiants

That's 1 reason why I think hitting 20 billion is already an achievement

JESUSCHRIST

Secondly the entire playerbase in the crystal opening realm event was roughly 1 million players as evidenced by I think it was DNA3000

Of the 1 million players, how many are valiants? How many are paragons and below? The logical deduction is that the majority are paragons and below

You can't count on this majority group of players to contribute their fair share of points for this realm event, majority of players are actually casual players, they aren't as hardcore as you might wish

SirGamesBond

JESUSCHRIST

I'm very pessimistic when it comes to getting the entire playerbase to play and contribute points

This comes from the fact that I am an alliance leader with almost 30 valiants

Many players just play this game casually, you can't expect every player to contribute their fair share of points

altavista

I play the game regularly, and was kind of oblivious that another Realm event is starting. Part of it is the default "ignore inbox message", part of it is the poor marketing (it feels more like a "piggy bank" type thing for me to just ignore; additionally "Summoner's Fest" feels more like celebrate by playing normally rather than do things you don't normally do), part of it is the rewards aren't immediately enticing (it just seems like some shards, glory, and loyalty).

And then once I decided to look into it more, it "seems" like it is aimed at sweats - play BGs, do Raids, etc. There are a few other One-time ways to participate, but by and large it seems to just be additional rewards for people already getting great rewards from BGs/Raids/etc.

At the end of the day, this feels like a "Who is this for?" type of event. Players who can put up lots of points wouldn't necessarily be enticed by the rewards until milestone 40+ (1-5 sig stones? Let's grind for 50+ hours!!!). Players who would benefit a lot from the rewards wouldn't necessarily be able to put up the points.

DannyB01

Less than 5 billion

I honestly can’t even see where to grind for to get these points. I’m so confused by this event. Kabam should have released better info on this before it went live.

ahmynuts

DannyB01 said:

I honestly can’t even see where to grind for to get these points. I’m so confused by this event. Kabam should have released better info on this before it went live.

Kabam releasing good info on something? Impossible

DrZola

15-20 billion

altavista said:

I play the game regularly, and was kind of oblivious that another Realm event is starting. Part of it is the default "ignore inbox message", part of it is the poor marketing (it feels more like a "piggy bank" type thing for me to just ignore; additionally "Summoner's Fest" feels more like celebrate by playing normally rather than do things you don't normally do), part of it is the rewards aren't immediately enticing (it just seems like some shards, glory, and loyalty).

And then once I decided to look into it more, it "seems" like it is aimed at sweats - play BGs, do Raids, etc. There are a few other One-time ways to participate, but by and large it seems to just be additional rewards for people already getting great rewards from BGs/Raids/etc.

At the end of the day, this feels like a "Who is this for?" type of event. Players who can put up lots of points wouldn't necessarily be enticed by the rewards until milestone 40+ (1-5 sig stones? Let's grind for 50+ hours!!!). Players who would benefit a lot from the rewards wouldn't necessarily be able to put up the points.

My take exactly.

If I play relatively normally (and our ally doesn’t Raid), I’m looking at approximately enough solo points to walk away with 3-4 7* basics and 30+ 7* sig stones plus over 10K glory (that I constantly struggle to spend) and a bunch of loyalty that I already have millions of (that I also constantly struggle to spend).

That would put us around the mid to high teens (14-18 billion) points.

Those are fine rewards, but nothing I’d toss hours upon hours of my next two months (peak summer where I am) in exchange for—begging the question @altavista asked: who is this for?

No final judgment, but it will be interesting to hear the team’s thought process behind the event once it fully launches.

Dr. Zola

Ercarret

What vexes me slightly is that there seems to only be a set number of points that each Summoner can contribute. There aren't infinite Raid bosses for you to grind down, paths in the AW Showcase to do, or BG Victory Track ranks for you to progress through. As such, I'm curious how the max number of points will ultimately be tallied. In the previous Realm Events, there have been people who have had means to boost our standing through various ways, whether that's because they had WAAAAAY more crystals to open than anyone else or because they could just freely spend during the Banquet Event. Doing so would also put them at the top of the rankings, giving them the best rewards in the end. However, I see very little that can actually separate people at the top since they'd all have done the same things and presumably then all have about the same number of points in the end. How will they find a singular person with more points than the second person, who has more points than the third person etc, if everyone ends up with the same points if they do the same activities?

Likewise, I'm curious what is needed from the average Summoner both to get to the top and to contribute whatever average number of points is needed from us as a community to reach the final milestones. Will we get there if all players reach about 50% of the max points or does a significant percentage of the player base have to complete 100% of them for us to collectively get there?

I do wish Kabam was a little clearer on this.

BringPopcorn

Brian, Stark Foundation, wonder who will come to save us from a disaster when people start raging about the numbers.

JackTheSnack

More than 20 billion

More people playing now than ever

Elux

600 points dont want to play 24/7 in a game to gain points

MystG

10-15 billion

Based on a very basic and random calculation, I think we can cross 12billion points at the very least.

The event lasts 64 days, currently it's not even 24 hours since it started, and we have already crossed 200mil points, that too when most of the modes which reward these points are not even live.

Plus, note that most players haven't even started getting these points yet (I just did my DSE for today a few hours back);

Plus I'm sure most of active alliance players haven't claimed their first raid chest;

And so on.

So imo if we even get just 200mil every day, we will be able to hit 12billion points by the end of the event

Phantøm_Echø

DrZola said:

altavista said:

I play the game regularly, and was kind of oblivious that another Realm event is starting. Part of it is the default "ignore inbox message", part of it is the poor marketing (it feels more like a "piggy bank" type thing for me to just ignore; additionally "Summoner's Fest" feels more like celebrate by playing normally rather than do things you don't normally do), part of it is the rewards aren't immediately enticing (it just seems like some shards, glory, and loyalty).

And then once I decided to look into it more, it "seems" like it is aimed at sweats - play BGs, do Raids, etc. There are a few other One-time ways to participate, but by and large it seems to just be additional rewards for people already getting great rewards from BGs/Raids/etc.

At the end of the day, this feels like a "Who is this for?" type of event. Players who can put up lots of points wouldn't necessarily be enticed by the rewards until milestone 40+ (1-5 sig stones? Let's grind for 50+ hours!!!). Players who would benefit a lot from the rewards wouldn't necessarily be able to put up the points.

My take exactly.

If I play relatively normally (and our ally doesn’t Raid), I’m looking at approximately enough solo points to walk away with 3-4 7* basics and 30+ 7* sig stones plus over 10K glory (that I constantly struggle to spend) and a bunch of loyalty that I already have millions of (that I also constantly struggle to spend).

That would put us around the mid to high teens (14-18 billion) points.

Those are fine rewards, but nothing I’d toss hours upon hours of my next two months (peak summer where I am) in exchange for—begging the question @altavista asked: who is this for?

No final judgment, but it will be interesting to hear the team’s thought process behind the event once it fully launches.

Dr. Zola

Does it HAVE to be for someone? I just think of it as bonus rewards for playing game modes people already play. Its a nice bonus for those active players who would still play these game modes and events regardless of the realm event or not, and provides a chase to those seeking the top milestones

ahmynuts

Once the new content drops and we get a few days passed the inevitable large spike in points we'll be better equipped to chart out a projection of points.

(By we i mean @DNA3000 )

MrSakuragi

ahmynuts said:

Once the new content drops and we get a few days passed the inevitable large spike in points we'll be better equipped to chart out a projection of points.

(By we i mean @DNA3000 )

Syndicated

More than 20 billion

We just started, Best way to farm Will be discovered tomorrow, lets wait

DrZola

15-20 billion

Phantøm_Echø said:

DrZola said:

altavista said:

I play the game regularly, and was kind of oblivious that another Realm event is starting. Part of it is the default "ignore inbox message", part of it is the poor marketing (it feels more like a "piggy bank" type thing for me to just ignore; additionally "Summoner's Fest" feels more like celebrate by playing normally rather than do things you don't normally do), part of it is the rewards aren't immediately enticing (it just seems like some shards, glory, and loyalty).

And then once I decided to look into it more, it "seems" like it is aimed at sweats - play BGs, do Raids, etc. There are a few other One-time ways to participate, but by and large it seems to just be additional rewards for people already getting great rewards from BGs/Raids/etc.

At the end of the day, this feels like a "Who is this for?" type of event. Players who can put up lots of points wouldn't necessarily be enticed by the rewards until milestone 40+ (1-5 sig stones? Let's grind for 50+ hours!!!). Players who would benefit a lot from the rewards wouldn't necessarily be able to put up the points.

My take exactly.

If I play relatively normally (and our ally doesn’t Raid), I’m looking at approximately enough solo points to walk away with 3-4 7* basics and 30+ 7* sig stones plus over 10K glory (that I constantly struggle to spend) and a bunch of loyalty that I already have millions of (that I also constantly struggle to spend).

That would put us around the mid to high teens (14-18 billion) points.

Those are fine rewards, but nothing I’d toss hours upon hours of my next two months (peak summer where I am) in exchange for—begging the question @altavista asked: who is this for?

No final judgment, but it will be interesting to hear the team’s thought process behind the event once it fully launches.

Dr. Zola

Does it HAVE to be for someone? I just think of it as bonus rewards for playing game modes people already play. Its a nice bonus for those active players who would still play these game modes and events regardless of the realm event or not, and provides a chase to those seeking the top milestones

Fair question, and undoubtedly many players will approach it the way you suggest.

I suppose it depends what the goal of this particular Realm event is. If it’s intended to simply toss some allright goodies on people who already play the game daily and competitively, then it’s probably working as intended.

But if a Realm event is supposed to be something more or is supposed to be part of a lead-in for the big Summoners Fest event in November then maybe not. I don’t know, but I wish there were a little more in the way of introduction and explanation. Maybe that’s coming tomorrow…

Dr. Zola

smdam38

There aren’t a ton of people playing Raids, and it’s already broken again so probably less going forward.

Those are the biggest individual points.
BUT. The rest are just for stuff that people would do anyway.

I think it’s very doable to get to 5 billion.