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  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 6,825 ★★★★★

    So if the max total earnable points is 300,000. I have two questions:
    1) Why is the max rewards only achievable to players that can do valiant EQ and Nightmare Raids? I thought this was meant to be the annual summoner appreciation event but this seems pretty exclusive for the realm event rewards.
    2) How are there rank rewards if you can’t earn more than 300,000 points? So all of the valiant players who do nightmare raids and the rest of the items will get the #1 rank rewards?

    High rank rewards will require obtaining the bonus points that come with unit packs in the store.
  • BostonSpidey124BostonSpidey124 Member Posts: 38
    Yes I have seen the unit packs with summoner fest points but I wanted actual confirmation from Kabam that money is the only other way to earn more points
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,810 ★★★★★
    edited July 10
    DrZola said:

    Why the limited communication around this *Realm Fest* ?

    Sure, there are more than a few bugs plaguing new content, but you’d think the team would expect that by now. It’s hard to understand why it seems there’s been so little interaction.

    There’s this on the Main page:



    But much of the info is about the November event in Vancouver.

    There’s this recent post as well:



    What’s up?

    Dr. Zola

    I'm fully expecting that Kabam will somehow make attending the Summoner's Fest (needing to pay for flight and lodging) as points that will contribute to some Ranked rewards.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 9,028 ★★★★★

    So if the max total earnable points is 300,000. I have two questions:
    1) Why is the max rewards only achievable to players that can do valiant EQ and Nightmare Raids? I thought this was meant to be the annual summoner appreciation event but this seems pretty exclusive for the realm event rewards.

    The "Legends Event?"

    It's not
    That one is in august
  • evilKINGwilsonevilKINGwilson Member Posts: 220

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Hi I'm not receiving points earned , is anyone else reporting this or should I file a ticket? Thank you @kabamcrashed
  • Standardman1989Standardman1989 Member Posts: 611 ★★★
    300k free or not ? Its a simple question .. 😉 Who doesn't say a word consents
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 9,028 ★★★★★

    So if the max total earnable points is 300,000. I have two questions:
    1) Why is the max rewards only achievable to players that can do valiant EQ and Nightmare Raids? I thought this was meant to be the annual summoner appreciation event but this seems pretty exclusive for the realm event rewards.

    The "Legends Event?"

    It's not
    Then I guess I don’t understand what summoner fest is supposed to be about. I guess I mistakenly assumed that an event called summoner fest was going to be about celebrating summoners and letting people earn points from just playing the game. Instead it seems pointless and just to remind everyone that if you aren’t valiant and doing nightmare raids, you don’t matter.

    I believe it's just a precursor for the battlerealm brawl but they made a whole event out of it instead of just making it about bgs
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    I think what Mike might have intended to communicate is that Summoner Fest is not a replacement or iteration of the Legends event (the one with the dope crystals).
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 21,034 Guardian
    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
  • CesarSV7CesarSV7 Member Posts: 303 ★★
    Lol so basically I don't care about this event anymore. Glad I read this post. 🤣
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,789 Guardian
    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    Nothing new really for realm events. Banquet was the exact same.
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★★
    edited July 11
    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    that's always been the case, even arena. you can get everything for free or pay a bunch of money to buy some time and convenience.

    next week's poker game mode or whatever is going to be the same thing.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,789 Guardian
    Folkvangr said:

    Pikolu said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    Nothing new really for realm events. Banquet was the exact same.

    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    that's always been the case, even arena. you can get everything for free or pay a bunch of money to buy some time and convenience.

    next week's poker game mode or whatever is going to be the same thing.
    Yeah, it is almost certain that a whale will rank first on that one too, however any f2p can try to compete for that spot (again, it is extremely unlikely that a f2p will get it, but the possibility is there)
    In this one you have a cap on points, meaning the only way to rank 1 is spending money
    I don't think a f2p who has spent 8 hours a day grinding units in all forms since day 1 of the game, and hoarded all those units, would even be able to be close for first place. $140k USD is roughly 5 million units if you are buying namors in the webstore.

    So while a f2p could technically compete, they never had a chance. I imagine some mega whales might use this event as a chance to stockpile units for Banquet so they can double dip the events with only paying money here.
  • FolkvangrFolkvangr Member Posts: 358 ★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Folkvangr said:

    Pikolu said:

    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    Nothing new really for realm events. Banquet was the exact same.

    CesarSV7 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Folkvangr said:

    DNA3000 said:

    ToniXD_16 said:

    There are 300,000 total earnable points, so yes you can reach the top milestone, even if you miss a few.

    Why do you make everything p2w?
    I wouldn't call it pay to win. Sure, spending could be a tie breaker for points, but if you don't do everything, especially Raids, no amount of spending is going to catch you up.

    Well, technically speaking $24,000 USD might catch you up. But even among the mega whales I suspect the number of people who will actually do that is very close to zero.

    Since about a third of the realm points are in Raids, and my alliance doesn't do raids (much less Nightmare Raids which seems to be required to cap out the milestones) I'm basically out of it. But the event is still giving me a ton of rewards for basically just playing the game more or less as I normally do, so I can't be too upset. I find it ... odd that there's so much emphasis on Raids given their presumptive optional nature - and the fact they are tied to alliances, meaning individual players cannot simply choose to do them just for the event - but I suppose Kabam has its reasons there.
    There are ranked rewards, which will be unobtainable unless you pay
    I would call that pay to win
    They are unobtainable even if you do pay, unless you also basically do everything. Normally the term pay to win refers to games where either whomever pays the most wins, or spending offers an overwhelming advantage compared to everything else. But that's not really true here, except in an essentially unrealistic extreme. Spending offers an advantage between two players who otherwise are tied in all other respects, but having an advantage between two competitors who otherwise do exactly the same things equally well is not pay to win, that is literally all competitions.
    I'm sorry but if there's NO way you can place #1 without having to spend, it's called a PAY TO WIN event.
    that's always been the case, even arena. you can get everything for free or pay a bunch of money to buy some time and convenience.

    next week's poker game mode or whatever is going to be the same thing.
    Yeah, it is almost certain that a whale will rank first on that one too, however any f2p can try to compete for that spot (again, it is extremely unlikely that a f2p will get it, but the possibility is there)
    In this one you have a cap on points, meaning the only way to rank 1 is spending money
    I don't think a f2p who has spent 8 hours a day grinding units in all forms since day 1 of the game, and hoarded all those units, would even be able to be close for first place. $140k USD is roughly 5 million units if you are buying namors in the webstore.

    So while a f2p could technically compete, they never had a chance. I imagine some mega whales might use this event as a chance to stockpile units for Banquet so they can double dip the events with only paying money here.
    What event are you talking about?
    I am talking about the new event where you have to form squads to get points
    Since it is somewhat luck based and requires energy to play, f2p has a chance to compete
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 1,504 ★★★★★
    i don't think i'm a kabam shill but the most valuable rewards have always gone to the biggest spenders. what we're seeing is literally their business model. if cutting edge rewards can be had by someone spending zero money, the devs are doing something wrong.
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