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BGS are not enjoyable

ShevvelShevvel Member Posts: 191
I’ve been playing MCoC for years now and have always appreciated how Battlegrounds gave both F2P and spending players a fair competitive space. But the current GC meta has completely ruined that balance, especially for F2P players like me.

This re-parry + stun-based meta demands that you:

Stun the opponent (which now depends on re-parry),

Time everything perfectly,

And worst of all, rely on the AI to cooperate.

Problem? The AI rarely does.

Re-parrying is clunky, unreliable, and doesn’t work consistently on all champs.

Dexing too much causes regen because you’re waiting for them to throw specials.

Passive AI becomes even worse when my deck is filled with Rank 3 champs and I face whale accounts full of Rank 4 champs. It’s just not a fair fight anymore.

Even with perfect inputs and strategy, I lose because the AI simply won’t throw specials, or I get punished trying to bait. This isn't fun. It’s not competitive. It’s stressful. BGs used to be a fun escape — now it just feels like work I don’t get paid for.

KABAM: If the AI isn’t controllable or fair, please don’t make metas that are AI-reliant. Give us metas that reward skill and roster diversity — not meta-specific champs and deck power inflation.

Until then, I’ll either stick to Victory Track or take a break entirely. This isn't the experience long-time F2P players deserve.

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  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 13,528 ★★★★★
    Yes this meta is bs, but way better than previous electric defense meta.
  • I'll be honest, this meta's demands are too much for me, I'm not good enough

    Hey man, yes you are

    Section 2 Path 5 Destroyer MVP over here
  • VanillaCokeVanillaCoke Member Posts: 1,575 ★★★★★

    I understand the intention and point of this.
    I just don't like that people like me not interested on the showdown have to play the qualifying meta.

    The qualifying meta for last brawl was Crit Me With Your Best Shot. The reality is there will be different metas whether there’s a brawl or not. Let’s wait and see what next season’s qualifying meta’s will be.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 9,818 ★★★★★

    I understand the intention and point of this.
    I just don't like that people like me not interested on the showdown have to play the qualifying meta.

    The qualifying meta for last brawl was Crit Me With Your Best Shot. The reality is there will be different metas whether there’s a brawl or not. Let’s wait and see what next season’s qualifying meta’s will be.

    I understand the intention and point of this.
    I just don't like that people like me not interested on the showdown have to play the qualifying meta.

    I mean realistically there is probably ~100 people who have the roster and skills to actually make the showdown. But sure lets make sure everyone else who plays knows their pain. I will say it is slightly less draft focused than the last meta. But I will never understand why they don't just give those at the tippy top their own meta and leave a little bit of fun for those of us who suck more. The meta already switches from VT to GC, just have celestial be their own meta and then really go to town on them. Supposedly none of them ever leave the game so hit them and let us play.
    When I was in high school there was a guy who had a chance to make it into the US olympic swim team. The other swimmers didn't have to go thru his training drills and schedules....
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 308 ★★★

    I understand the intention and point of this.
    I just don't like that people like me not interested on the showdown have to play the qualifying meta.

    I mean realistically there is probably ~100 people who have the roster and skills to actually make the showdown. But sure lets make sure everyone else who plays knows their pain. I will say it is slightly less draft focused than the last meta. But I will never understand why they don't just give those at the tippy top their own meta and leave a little bit of fun for those of us who suck more. The meta already switches from VT to GC, just have celestial be their own meta and then really go to town on them. Supposedly none of them ever leave the game so hit them and let us play.
    So what you are saying is you don't want to be challenged in the supposed "competitive" mode. This is the literal definition of a skill issue.
  • TotemCorruptionTotemCorruption Member Posts: 2,955 ★★★★★
    DrZola said:

    Just lends more credence to the “do they even play their own game” argument.

    Dr. Zola

    Well the designers do all play to varying extents, but they all obviously have jobs and lives, which makes it hard to be a celestial level player.
    It's like master luthiers who aren't professional musicians.
    Not every luthier can spend all day building guitars and practicing too at the highest level, especially if you have something else going on in your life on top of that.
  • KapKamot3KapKamot3 Member Posts: 34
    It seems most players dont have problem competing. The issue is huge rating gaps. Like in boxing, lighweight is competing in heavyweight division lol. Even with the skill, its gona be tough.
  • CheeseMaster482CheeseMaster482 Member Posts: 308 ★★★
    KapKamot3 said:

    It seems most players dont have problem competing. The issue is huge rating gaps. Like in boxing, lighweight is competing in heavyweight division lol. Even with the skill, its gona be tough.

    Nah bro you just too broke. Drop 1k or stay with the plebians 😡😡. I did not spend 1k to lose BGs matches 😡😡
  • AnotherconcernplayerAnotherconcernplayer Member Posts: 169 ★★

    I'll be honest, this meta's demands are too much for me, I'm not good enough

    Hey man, yes you are

    Section 2 Path 5 Destroyer MVP over here
    Ok so here an idea:-

    What if during the Battle Brawl, Kabam also set up a side tournament for Kabam staffs, I think it is time we find out who is the Kabam top BG dog.

    Of course KarateMike and MSD can only be commentators (not allowed for participation).

    Would love to see @KabamPinwheel take on @KabamDORK

    Price:- a Special title "Kabam BG top dog" and 1 week extra holiday.

    Come on @Kabam Crashed , let make it happen. 🤩
  • ChovnerChovner Member Posts: 1,354 ★★★★★
    This meta is hot garbage... but the garbage bags are full of excrement... and it's the middle of July on a +40C day.... and the bags are on black asphalt.... in a glass box... with the bottom lined with foil


    In summary, I'm not enjoying this
  • dv99999dv99999 Member Posts: 260 ★★
    edited July 25
    Chovner said:

    This meta is hot garbage... but the garbage bags are full of excrement... and it's the middle of July on a +40C day.... and the bags are on black asphalt.... in a glass box... with the bottom lined with foil


    In summary, I'm not enjoying this

    sh.....it game mode !
  • MrSanguiniMrSanguini Member Posts: 219 ★★

    Yes this meta is bs, but way better than previous electric defense meta.

    The previous meta was paradise compared to this one. This one is the worst of all time.
    How is a meta where most attackers get power burned to death or time out if you don’t play at a snail’s pace any better than the meta where most attackers can actually finish the fight if the player knows how to Reparry and minimize dexing?
  • DrZolaDrZola Member Posts: 9,869 ★★★★★

    DrZola said:

    Just lends more credence to the “do they even play their own game” argument.

    Dr. Zola

    Well the designers do all play to varying extents, but they all obviously have jobs and lives, which makes it hard to be a celestial level player.
    It's like master luthiers who aren't professional musicians.
    Not every luthier can spend all day building guitars and practicing too at the highest level, especially if you have something else going on in your life on top of that.
    Some do, sure. But it makes me wonder how siloed the game production is, or whether those who do play a good bit have a voice in what gets thrown out.

    Dr. Zola
  • LloxxllLloxxll Member Posts: 9
    Current Battlegrounds is means for boycotting this game. Enough is enough, they'll only listen when people stop spending on this game.

    The current AI is completely unplayable against. They don't play their own game and it shows.
  • SearmenisSearmenis Member Posts: 1,924 ★★★★★
    If you want something specifically hard for Brawlers classifiers, do a separate meta for Celestial+. Because this way, the rest of 99,9% of the players that don t compete for that, will get way lesser rewards in the end, and that s unfair for them. The big kahunas get to compete AND all the radiance.
  • 狗策划死全家狗策划死全家 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 26
    期待想出这个月节点的策划今年死全家
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,992 ★★★★★
    When they started releasing absurd defenders every month instead of every few months, is when the game mode died ngl
  • ZuroZuro Member Posts: 2,992 ★★★★★
    Defender kits are way too punishing nowadays so now every meta feels like BS
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