the modok lab is not worth it

Karlos7

unnecessary rewards, to great difficulties with bad and super unfair us, even throwing the dice to reverse, should make this laboratory more reasonable or increase the rewards, this event is getting useless.

Spera

Don't do it .

BUZZdog3000

it adds up

Carnage313

I agree. It’s boring and waste of time. Even if the minimal rewards add up still a waste of time.

Blax4ever

It adds up, cost no energy but I agree the Expert fights are a bit much right now, but if you feel like doing to 12 100+ hit fights a day it’s good practice for AQ and AW boss killing.

Speeds80

If you have an r4 stark spidey the fights are about 40 hits

Blax4ever

@Speeds80

Most of the community doesn’t have a 5* Stark Spidey or the T4Bs to r4 him, so we are pretty much stuck with using 4/40 and 5/50s and 100+ hit fights if we want the 200-400 5* shards. Many say it’s not worth the effort to do twice a day everyday.

NastyEfnNate

Nah the 7500 5* shards over the month are a freakin joke. What was kabam thinking in giving something like this for very little effort. Shame on kabam

ContestOfNoobs

sounds like u have a weak roster

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Boboman

ContestOfNoobs wrote: »

sounds like u have a weak roster

i

Wise words

BitterSteel

NastyEfnNate wrote: »

Nah the 7500 5* shards over the month are a freakin joke. What was kabam thinking in giving something like this for very little effort. Shame on kabam

In what world is a month 15 days?

Ghriffin

It's a **** event, don't bother with the highest difficulty setting. Save the aggravation and just farm the 50 and 75 5 and 4 star shards.

LeNoirFaineant

I'd do it just for the 5* sig stones. I don't bother with the two easier levels usually.

Jimmy_Utah83

Lol. No energy for some shards. Obviously you get wrecked on the hardest difficulty then cry here because you aren’t ready for that level of content. Did you expect sympathy??

NastyEfnNate

BitterSteel wrote: »

NastyEfnNate wrote: »

Nah the 7500 5* shards over the month are a freakin joke. What was kabam thinking in giving something like this for very little effort. Shame on kabam

In what world is a month 15 days?

Sorry it’s 13k shards

shchong2

Good thing is, it is DOES NOT require energy. If you have trouble getting thru the expert level, you can still try at no cost, just don't waste your potion and revive, u can quit if necessary. If you think too much effort, then feel free to NOT attempt. I think it is nice to have the lab, but it is upto us to decide if we want to join or not. I believe MANY players are still enjoying it. Don't get me wrong, I don't enjoy it as much, and sometimes I don't have time and just missed it, but again I'm NOT being forced to complete it, I believe you have the same freedom as me to skip it, to forget about it, or to even ignore it, unless you suffer from some form of OCD and you have to force yourself

In short, I partially agree with you at times especially when we are not free, it appears to be NOT worthy.

ContestOfNoobs

Boboman wrote: »

ContestOfNoobs wrote: »

sounds like u have a weak roster

i

Wise words

yea see my profile in game

not like my champs cant take this kind of content, at the point of my mcoc career.

i wonder how OP would do in uncollected difficulty

GroundedWisdom

The Energy is not the issue. These subjects always inevitably lead to people saying it's a matter of skill. It's about the level of effort needed in proportion to the Quest everyday. Some can glide through it. Great. That doesn't mean the concerns of others aren't valid. The majority of people can do it with enough effort and/or Resources. That doesn't mean it's in proportion to a Daily Quest. There is a point where the level of challenge is too much, and the cumulative Rewards are irrelevant if it's not worth the amount of effort it takes everyday. This is not EQ where someone can take their time. This is a daily, time-sensitive Event that requires constant Completion for the cumulative Rewards. I've already voiced my concern in the main Thread, but it becomes redundant to see the same rebuttals when people are trying to give their feedback. Obviously people don't have to do it. Obviously people can do the level below. Obviously some don't have an issue. The point is it requires a great deal of effort everyday.

LeNoirFaineant

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

The Energy is not the issue. These subjects always inevitably lead to people saying it's a matter of skill. It's about the level of effort needed in proportion to the Quest everyday. Some can glide through it. Great. That doesn't mean the concerns of others aren't valid. The majority of people can do it with enough effort and/or Resources. That doesn't mean it's in proportion to a Daily Quest. There is a point where the level of challenge is too much, and the cumulative Rewards are irrelevant if it's not worth the amount of effort it takes everyday. This is not EQ where someone can take their time. This is a daily, time-sensitive Event that requires constant Completion for the cumulative Rewards. I've already voiced my concern in the main Thread, but it becomes redundant to see the same rebuttals when people are trying to give their feedback. Obviously people don't have to do it. Obviously people can do the level below. Obviously some don't have an issue. The point is it requires a great deal of effort everyday.

But it doesn't require a great deal of effort for some. I have literally used one randomizer and have done every expert level with no items. Not bragging, lots of people can say the same. The amount of effort is well worth it if you can do it, and not worth it if you can't without spending money or a lot of items.

GroundedWisdom

It doesn't require a great deal of effort for you. That doesn't mean that applies to others, and let's face it, the number of people who have commented on the same issue is larger than the number of people who say it's not an issue. The point I'm making is just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean it's not an issue.

LeNoirFaineant

@GroundedWisdom I don't disagree with you on one level. It's obviously an issue for many, though I suspect that people who find it much too hard are probably more likely to post, so the perception that it is overwhelmingly an issue may be somewhat skewed. Most of these quests don't have T2 alpha frags and 400 5* shards per day though. Not everyone can get them easily and some that can't feel that they should be able to. Doesn't feel like a real issue. If you can't do this one there will be others.

BitterSteel

People are just assuming that 400 5* shards a day should come easy to them. They’re being far to self entitled, just because the panther trials were better.

It’s the exact same as when there’s a really good monthly calendar and then there’s one the next month that isn’t as good, so they complain and whine that kabam are short changing them. Kabam don’t owe you anything to make things easy for you. They set the events and then you decide if you want to do it and if the rewards are worth the risk.

The level of self entitlement is through the roof.

LeNoirFaineant

@BitterSteel couldn't agree more.

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Grimmbear

If you cant do it, stop complaining. Bite the bullet, do the highest you can. Simple as that.

LeNoirFaineant

Kind of funny though. This is the first time I've ever seen @GroundedWisdom not defend whatever it is Kabam is doing and I still disagree lmao.

Arus25

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It doesn't require a great deal of effort for you. That doesn't mean that applies to others, and let's face it, the number of people who have commented on the same issue is larger than the number of people who say it's not an issue. The point I'm making is just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean it's not an issue.

If you saying ppl dont have an issue does not mean it not an issue

Same words back to you
If you have issue does not mean it is an issue

GbSarkar

Rewards definitely don't match the effort. Only rewards that are "good" come from expert. Rewards for anything below that is a joke. I think we can all agree on that. Some people breeze through expert while others have a really hard time with it. Problem is that those who breeze through it don't really need those rewards. They are already flooded with 5* shards and this even just gives a nice little bonus. But for the people who need these rewards i.e. people whose roster consists of few 5/50s and mostly 4/40, the difficulty can be too much. But I guess that's the norm with Kabam. The rewards rarely match the difficulty level (and don't even get me started on the increased difficulty level for this rounds MODOK quest compared to last round just because they give us 180 extra t2a fragments)

GroundedWisdom

Arus25 wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

It doesn't require a great deal of effort for you. That doesn't mean that applies to others, and let's face it, the number of people who have commented on the same issue is larger than the number of people who say it's not an issue. The point I'm making is just because you don't have an issue with it doesn't mean it's not an issue.

If you saying ppl dont have an issue does not mean it not an issue

Same words back to you
If you have issue does not mean it is an issue

This is just word stew. The bottom line is, people are having an issue with the amount of effort it takes everyday. That makes it an issue. Not just one or two. Quite a few people have commented that the Difficulty is not proportionate. It's a Daily Quest for an Event. It's not Uncollected EQ. It's a Master Diffculty. It's great that people feel boisterous and take pride in the fact that they don't have a problem with it. Happy for them. It's an issue for others, quite a few others. I'm quite over people using their Ego to take a dump on the issues other people are having because believe it or not, there are some valid points here. If you find it easy, congratulations. Clearly there is something to what people are saying because the same thing is being brought up over and over, and if you don't have an issue, then they're not speaking to your demographic. Let people have their say without turning it into a bravado moment that suggests they're unskilled.

GroundedWisdom

LeNoirFaineant wrote: »

Kind of funny though. This is the first time I've ever seen @GroundedWisdom not defend whatever it is Kabam is doing and I still disagree lmao.

Don't misunderstand. I still respect the people responsible for the game. If the day came I didn't support what they do, I wouldn't be here. Lol. It's not personal for me. I believe they were testing the waters no doubt. That doesn't mean I can't give my own perspective and provide feedback.

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