Corvus and proxima villains

Onmix · 2018-04-09T05:09:46+00:00

Why aren’t they villains ?<br/>

Onmix

Why aren’t they villains ?

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Demonzfyre

because they aren't. mostly for game balance

GroundedWisdom

Does Blade need to beat every Champ that comes? Lol.

Onmix

So just for blade ? Really?

GroundedWisdom

I assumed that's why you asked. Of course you could consider them Villains. Just not every Champ will have that Tag.

Mrchamp

Jesus every character that’s comes out now people gunna cry for their villains tag smh.

Onmix

I did ask because of that. I find it ridiculous really.
I truly believe this is just a bad excuse to start and take the strength out of him.

I’m not crying, I don’t need him. I beat this months quest with Magik. She’s all I needed. But if you’re gonna introduce a champ like him respect what you’re doing. Don’t go backstabbing your own design. Or add more heroes simple as that. Stop fooling your players because others cry that they don’t have him.

GroundedWisdom

Okay, no one promised Blade would counter every Champ in The Contest. Ever. They're not backstabbing their own design. It's called balance.

Onmix

I completely disagree on that one. He doesn’t counter every champ and I don’t use him for all my fights.
But hey it is what it is.

GroundedWisdom

Then why did you say they should respect their design and not backstab it? It's been said that there will be counters to Blade. No Champ will be a cure-all for any content. There's always something that works against something.

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Onmix

Because I think they are doing it. If they are villains tag them as villains. If he was gonna be overpowered then it’s their fault. Nerf him then. But If you leave him as he is then respect your design and tag characters accordingly.

Besides are you really going to be satisfied with this counter for blade ? Wouldn’t you like a fighting mechanic a characters abilities something along the lines of gameplay to counter him ?
If this doesn’t exist, they made a mistake with blade and should do a real nerf. Not a tag change.

GroundedWisdom

It's not a nerf. Many things that don't logically make sense exist in the game because the internal balance comes first. They can give new Champs whatever Tag they want. The game doesn't revolve around Blade and who can trigger him. Not from a design perspective. You sound like something promised was taken away. No one ever said he would be guaranteed Villains moving forward. Some will have the Tag, some won't.

Onmix

Of course they can do what they want.
But before him they never missed the villain tag. To my recollection of course.

If the game doesn’t revolve around him then why change the tag if not for him ?
Maybe he’s affecting more than he’s supposed to.
Tags don’t work only for blade you know. The villainy node exists too. Now you can’t use corvus or proxima on that node.

Anyway, I get your point and I agree to some extent. Don’t think it’s the right way to do it but maybe it’ll work.

GroundedWisdom

Well, I'm not really implying they're doing anything. Just saying that not every Champ will be classified as a Villain.

Onmix

If they are villains they should be. If they are heroes they should be tagged as heroes. But just my opinion anyways.

It would be great to find the reason they did it. Maybe all this blade talk has nothing to do with it. And they have something new coming with the new tag.

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xNig

Why are they villains? From an alternate perspective, they’re heroes for wanting to help Thanos dominate the universe.

In that same node, please remove Magneto’s and some other’s villain tag. If Prof X is a gonna be a hero then Mag should be considered one too. Lol

Guy_Noir

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

Well, I'm not really implying they're doing anything. Just saying that not every Champ will be classified as a Villain.

Of course not every Champ will be classified as a Villain. Just Villains lmao. But when Villains are introduced to the contest and not tagged accordingly for the first time and the only conceivable reason is Blade I think OP has a point.

IanMoone89

the fact they arent immune to bleed or poison means they can die by that so AA sounds good lol

PrimeSaviour_27

Lol this reminds me of the generder neural debates I have at work.

I’m not a boy or girl, I’m spirited 😂😂😂

No simple your either a villain or hero lol

However completely agree, should be tagged either as hero or villain. For such nodes as villainy and yes for blade(I’m biased as I have him 😂).

EvilEmpire

Yeah honestly they set a precedent and then had to deviate from because they messed up with the blade synergies. Stop being so short sighted Kabam you continue to embarrass yourselfs because you make mistakes that create predictable problems and then resort to bandaid solutions. Broken MD lead to blade which lead to this tagging problem. Just fix things and stop with the lazy fixes. Or better yet higher more intelligent people who don’t make stupid mistakes like this.

PrimeSaviour_27

Lol love it!! got my 1st flag on a post.
Thanks random person 😎

FYI I love that someone flagged all posts agreeing they should have a villain tag Or maybe there spirited.

General_Vis

They should have villain tags. Same as Sabertooth. It will be a shame if this is the future direction of the game just to tone down the effectiveness of one overpowered champ.

It’s not just about Blade either. There are nodes where only villains gain power, nodes that increase crit rate for villains and synergies that potentially revive non-robotic villains. If you pull Corvus or Proxima you’d expect them to benefit from these but they won’t.

If there’s a worry about too many villains for Blade to cut down Kabam could always review some champs who currently have the villain tag and give them something else. Off the top of my head Magneto, Red Hulk, Rhino, Ronan and Taskmaster all have villain tags which could be changed to something else. Not saying they need to be heroes, but they could possibly create a new tag for ambiguous characters (like they did with mercenary).

GroundedWisdom

What they choose to classify them in The Contest is up to them. We can't say they are Villains or not based on the Comics and Movies. There are many logical things that don't make sense because of game balance. GR Immunity, for example. Champs can't always be what logically make sense. Otherwise a BW would never beat a Hulk. Lol.
The fact of the matter is, they're not going to design the future of the game entirely around Blade, whether for or against. There will be other Villains. Lol. There's more to the game than Blade.

Taserface597

Lmao they r clearly villains. I don’t even have blade and yeah if they aren’t villains then I don’t know what is. Mind as well just get rid of the villain tag

GroundedWisdom

I don't know. I suppose we will find out when they're added. There's also the possibility it hasn't been added. All I'm saying is it's possible they didn't Tag them as Villains. Things don't always make logical sense when it comes to fitting them into the framework of the game.

DemonicStalker

I never had the need to use blade even for unc chap 3

I used SW, Vision, SL, CB and Quake for 3.1 and Magik, CB, Quake, SL, Thor/x23/Hype for 3.2

However, if NOT putting Corvus and Proxima was meant to "balance" the game, then that's just outright lame. Thanos is a villain, hence, whoever works with him are villains unless it can be proven both Proxima and Corvus are mercenaries similar to Yondu and his crew.

If kabam sincerely wants to balance the game:

1) please fix up the fighting bugs and compensate the players adequately,

2) please reboot or upgrade more champions (beyond Luke Cage, Red Hulk and Sentry)
- Mutant: Deadpool (X-Force), Colossus, Magneto (both), Beast, Psylocke, Gambit, Logan, Cyclops (both)
- Skill: Daredevil (Netflix), Black Panther (Civil War), Moon Knight, Falcon, Winter Soldier, Hawkeye
- Science: She-Hulk, Spider Gwen, Ant Man,
- Mystic: Iron Fist, Loki, Thor (Jane Forster)
- Cosmic: Groot, Venom, Venompool, Carnage, Superior Iron Man, Kamala Khan, Captain/Ms Marvel
- Tech: Iron Man, Iron Patriot, Hulkbuster, Vulture, War Machine, Howard The Duck, Punisher 2099

All those champions above need upgrading

3) please update the synergies. Many old champions do not have new champions in their synergy (apart from medusa, which is ridiculous)

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charaderdude2

A 2018 study shows that people only started paying attention to character tags after the rise of Eric brooks

Batty_Numppo

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

I don't know. I suppose we will find out when they're added. There's also the possibility it hasn't been added. All I'm saying is it's possible they didn't Tag them as Villains. Things don't always make logical sense when it comes to fitting them into the framework of the game.

How many times will you yourself say things like “things don’t always make logical sense” before you think that making logical sense may be the ideal solution? Or is not making sense not even a problem? I understand that the game operates in a reality different from the comics and movies, but, to take the example here of Corvus and Proxima, these are two people doing the bidding of Thanos, a villain whom they call master and who calls them children. The game itself makes them villains. They’re not mercs for hire and they’re certainly not heroes. So even within the reality of the game, they are villains. They should be tagged as such and should activate Blade’s danger sense with GR. Not because it makes sense in the context of the comics or movies, but in the context of the game.

I’m not a Blade owner and I’d be fine with there being more balance regarding whom he can overpower with danger sense, but that balance should be achieved by introducing more champs who function in the game like heroes and mercs - even if their comic/movie counterparts are traditionally villainous - rather than introducing champs like these who are clearly being villains in the game but are not tagged as such.