Just wondering. Will new season of Alliance Wars address piloting

Great. Can't wait. Same old thing with Alliance Wars. Same long season. Same disappointments. Same pilots.

Looking forward...

Demonzfyre

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Haven't heard from this for a while, but I'm wondering if Kabam will put anything in to prevent all the top alliances piloting.

How would you prove it?

Demonzfyre wrote: »

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Haven't heard from this for a while, but I'm wondering if Kabam will put anything in to prevent all the top alliances piloting.

How would you prove it?

oh stop that. Have you been in a top alliance, you wouldn't know...seriously.

Lovejoy72

Im having anti aircraft guns installed on my map

Blitzkilla420

should they stop it? of course!

can they stop it? probably not

Demonzfyre

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Demonzfyre wrote: »

New_Noob168 wrote: »

Haven't heard from this for a while, but I'm wondering if Kabam will put anything in to prevent all the top alliances piloting.

How would you prove it?

oh stop that. Have you been in a top alliance, you wouldn't know...seriously.

You didn't answer the question. How can you prove it to Kabam? How can Kabam prove it? How do you know who is really controlling the champs? in reality, who really cares about piloting? It's really just something to complain about. What damage is done in reality? You can't gain or cheat the system by logging in as someone else just to fight for them. It's against Kabam's TOS and thats the only real issue but you can't 100% for certain PROVE that someone else from the alliance logged in. If it wasn't part of the TOS, then there wouldn't be an issue.

ThatGuy214

Yes you can prove it just look at the login IP address and see who is doubling up based on location. It is easy to prove they just don’t want too

ThatGuy214

It does hurt the community instead of pinning the skill of 30 on 30 you are allowing one player to control a team and giving an unfair advantage to those who don’t pilot.

Unique device id's are better than ip/location information. The piloting alliances that come here to defend themselves just try to work you into ip/location answers so they can bury your argument.

And saying it doesn't damage anything is beyond asinine. Would love to see what rank those cheaters would get without the benefit of constantly shared accounts. And when they drop, it would allow others to rise. Fact of the matter is they couldn't do half of what they've done without account sharing and pilots. Sucks to need to cheat to get where they are. Maybe they should git gud *shrug*

Deadbyrd9

Polots could also use a vpn. That gets rid of the whole ip address argument

Deadbyrd9 wrote: »

Polots could also use a vpn. That gets rid of the whole ip address argument

Hence the need to use of unique device hardware id's. And tbh, those can be spoofed but it's not a super easy way to go. Kabam rly just needs to drop their own proprietary ID file during install/updates. Hell, they may already do that for all we know. But it'd make the check a very easy thing.

SiriusBreak

@chunkyb device IDs would help, but if they run the account only during AW, then there should be a reoccurring IP that hits multiple accounts, and then the real owner's IP when they play outside AW. This should be fairly easy to address without device IDs. Many people have multiple devices so that can be written off with a location IP being identical if they use WiFi. A router has a base IP address shared by all devices connected to it. So 2 devices with the same IP is fine. 10 accounts with the same IP during AW, and not after, should be a dead giveaway IMO.

SiriusBreak

Also yes, this is something that needs to be nipped in the butt soon. Earning rewards together is the mission of an Alliance. Not letting 1 player pilot 30 accounts to dominate for rewards. It's sad that this is something that need be discussed. Really sad.

Find a reliable source on how to check player activity before saying things like 'VPN". It's not difficult to identify piloting/account sharing.

Good points @SiriusBreak... I think the main point is it's nowhere near as difficult or impossible as people try to say it is. And the methods used as protection by pilots and mercs don't really change that much. The only real question is the one posed by the op... Is kabam going to actually so something? Or will we get more generic statements with no follow-up?

Acanthus

They could, but they won't. They make enough money from people buying boosts and potions

Yet if players being piloted actually had to do their own paths, the potion and boost revenue would skyrocket if the alliance wanted to maintain their war rating and tier. They're losing money right now bc of piloting.

NiteAndDae

Is it possible, of course, but would involve a lot more logging and checking than they are currently doing. Right now they only dig into logs for major things, and I'm guessing it s mostly a manual process. Therefore it would cost them a lot to just pull and check logs unless they develop internal tools to help. I don't see them dedicating resources to this, when they could be spent on other aspects of the game. I'm guessing piloting is here to stay for the foreseeable future.

It’s unfortunate that there aren’t live AWs at EVO, it would be great to see all 30 players in top tier alliances showcase their skills

Drillh3ad

Lol...that’s hilarious. Most “top” alliances have a couple house accounts. Piloting will never go away. Too much money made from it by mercs and Kabam.

JRock808

I play on several devices, from several locations. The WiFi proxy at work would show me in the wrong state on my break while I’d be across the country an hour later at lunch. On any of 2-3 devices.

They could certainly log it and look for patterns, but that would take time and money, neither of which Kabam wants to put into the game.

JRock808 wrote: »

I play on several devices, from several locations. The WiFi proxy at work would show me in the wrong state on my break while I’d be across the country an hour later at lunch. On any of 2-3 devices.

They could certainly log it and look for patterns, but that would take time and money, neither of which Kabam wants to put into the game.

$160,461 X 365 = $58.5+ million a year

Better to allocate that revenue on managing reliable servers, hiring employees to fix bugged gameplay, and establishing procedures to identify/remove/prevent players who hack/mod/run scripts.

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GroundedWisdom

Piloting falls under Account Sharing. While I agree that it's a problem, and personally I have no time for cheating, I'm just not entirely sure what could be done to address it that isn't being done at the moment. They may have room for improvement, sure. I'm just not sure they can deal with all Account Sharing by the time Season 2 starts. It's a much larger problem than just War Rewards.

I had suggested a way before. And it isn't IP based

Once you join AW, your device ID gets locked in with that ID and your Kabam Account Name.

If you login with another device and the same Kabam ID, that is fine (in case you get a new phone)

Once a a device ID gets attached to that Kabam Account Name, that same device ID shouldn't be able to login to another Kabam account (only for war and the individual war. it would reset every war)...

So there you go... The only issue is if someone has 30 devices and logs everyone, but that is highly unlikely. Most people will have 2-3 devices.

So there you go @Demonzfyre Need anymore smart answers?

Maybe I should work for Kabam because they should have thought about this.

GroundedWisdom

Except people have multiple Accounts and multiple devices.