Were you hoping that alliance war season 2 would be shorter than 55 days?

MasterFlint

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MasterFlint

I personally was hoping for something shorter.

Bendy

I thought at least 30 days

thanks4playing

Yes even more players will burn out and retire esp with dungeons. This will prove to be damaging to both the player community and kabam in the long run.

BitterSteel

It’s too much pressure for too long.

thanks4playing

But they can't just shorten. Need to also address the discrepancy of rewards lest the player base is divided even more. Many of the top players already have 2 565s. Shortened seasons without addressing reward discrepancy is also misguided.

GroundedWisdom

Anything less than 2 months isn't significant enough to create a Season. A few Wars isn't much. Besides, that would decrease the Rewards.

Voluntaris

Stress of 8 weeks is having a negative effect on the players for sure. Had the most ally turnover ever right once season 1 ended... it's only going to get worse.

thanks4playing

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

thanks4playing

Voluntaris wrote: »

Stress of 8 weeks is having a negative effect on the players for sure. Had the most ally turnover ever right once season 1 ended... it's only going to get worse.

Perhaps the goal is to wipe half the community, perfectly balanced as all things should be?

Demonzfyre

Shorter means less rewards. AW is on going even without seasons so not sure how you cant get burnt out by "seasons". 55 days is fine. Gives alliances opportunities to catch up or get better tiers.

Gamer

Im wuld agerd it to long 2 much berfor get reward wish it one and a half

GroundedWisdom

thanks4playing wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I said. You can't have a Season with too short a timeframe. What Tier I'm in has nothing to do with it.

BigPoppaCBONE

If the season is going to be so long, I’d prefer there be no AW at all between seasons or a practice AW auto-populated like arena.

shortpker

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

thanks4playing wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I said. You can't have a Season with too short a timeframe. What Tier I'm in has nothing to do with it.

So reduce the rewards and shorten the season. I play at the top and 55 days is a very long time to constantly be grinding AW without deaths.

thanks4playing

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

thanks4playing wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I said. You can't have a Season with too short a timeframe. What Tier I'm in has nothing to do with it.

@GroundedWisdom if you follow the rules of logical argument then what I asked was not only an invitation to have a mature and meaningful conversation, but was very relevant bc of the premises that I already made explicit. For example,

Premise 1, competitive alliances are under constant pressure to clear and not die
Premise 2, the longer the duration of this pressure, the likelier it is that people will burn out and retire
Premise 3, as evidence for premise 2, refer to the mass of players who have quit or alliances that have crumbled for this very reason
Conclusion, competitive alliances, who are measured by tier, bracket, and amount of deaths, are more sensitive to these premises.

So my relevant question, which was an invitation to have a mature conversation that you declined and are apparently not ready for, was: which aw tier are you? Does your alliance clear every war and how many deaths does it approximately average? This is a question to anyone who has answered no to this poll. It's an invitation for a meaningful conversation.

SomeoneElse

It’s too much for me. It’s not AW by itself that is the problem. It is running AW with AQ and all of these new events simultaneously. By the time I use my top champs for AW offense and defense and AQ, I am left with my “D” team for events. It would be nice if this was not an issue for me, but the drastic difference in champion tiers plus the never-ending bugs in the game make using this time for more difficult content nearly impossible.

GroundedWisdom

thanks4playing wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

thanks4playing wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I said. You can't have a Season with too short a timeframe. What Tier I'm in has nothing to do with it.

@GroundedWisdom if you follow the rules of logical argument then what I asked was not only an invitation to have a mature and meaningful conversation, but was very relevant bc of the premises that I already made explicit. For example,

Premise 1, competitive alliances are under constant pressure to clear and not die
Premise 2, the longer the duration of this pressure, the likelier it is that people will burn out and retire
Premise 3, as evidence for premise 2, refer to the mass of players who have quit or alliances that have crumbled for this very reason
Conclusion, competitive alliances, who are measured by tier, bracket, and amount of deaths, are more sensitive to these premises.

So my relevant question, which was an invitation to have a mature conversation that you declined and are apparently not ready for, was: which aw tier are you? Does your alliance clear every war and how many deaths does it approximately average? This is a question to anyone who has answered no to this poll. It's an invitation for a meaningful conversation.

No. It was not an invitation to a mature conversation. It was an attempt to call me out on what Tier I'm in because you disagree with what I said. Not my first visit here.

Sgt_Doakes1

I think 2 months is good, aw will go on whether its during or in between seasons. So from my point of view this post about complaining about the frequency of rewards. I think they made a good call with this.

cx234333

55 days is nothing

Outsider75

cx234333 wrote: »

55 days is nothing

see you in 40 day suckas!

Cujo999

thanks4playing wrote: »

GroundedWisdom wrote: »

thanks4playing wrote: »

@GroundedWisdom what aw tier are you and how many deaths does your alliance average? Bc there might be a difference between more competitive and less competitive alliances where the margin of error in the former is very small (unless we factor piloting).

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I said. You can't have a Season with too short a timeframe. What Tier I'm in has nothing to do with it.

@GroundedWisdom if you follow the rules of logical argument then what I asked was not only an invitation to have a mature and meaningful conversation, but was very relevant bc of the premises that I already made explicit. For example,

Premise 1, competitive alliances are under constant pressure to clear and not die
Premise 2, the longer the duration of this pressure, the likelier it is that people will burn out and retire
Premise 3, as evidence for premise 2, refer to the mass of players who have quit or alliances that have crumbled for this very reason
Conclusion, competitive alliances, who are measured by tier, bracket, and amount of deaths, are more sensitive to these premises.

So my relevant question, which was an invitation to have a mature conversation that you declined and are apparently not ready for, was: which aw tier are you? Does your alliance clear every war and how many deaths does it approximately average? This is a question to anyone who has answered no to this poll. It's an invitation for a meaningful conversation.

In any tier, the Leader and the Officers are responsible for the morale of their Alliance mates, not Kabam. Everyone knows what the rewards are, everyone knows what a grind the season is, and everyone has a good idea of where they stand in the rewards hierarchy. If you choose play the game at a highly competitive level, you choose to put added stress on yourself. If the stress is too much, take a break or move down the ladder. If your Alliance is going to ratchet up the pressure on it's members so it can achieve the best rewards possible, then people will burn out and you will lose people. The Leader and Officers need to decide if it's worth pushing hard for the best rewards and losing people or if it's better to downshift a bit and drop a rewards bracket or two, but keep it's core together.