Alliance Wars Season 3 Discussion Thread

Kabam Miike · 2018-06-27T18:00:22+00:00

<span style="color:darkorange">Summoners! We've just posted a list of Adjustments coming to Alliance Wars Season 3. <a href="http://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/77098/alliance-wars-season-3-start-date-and-adjusments/" rel="nofollow">Check out the post here.</a> You've probably got questions, so ask…

Kabam Miike

Summoners! We've just posted a list of Adjustments coming to Alliance Wars Season 3. Check out the post here. You've probably got questions, so ask away!

Remember, Season 3 starts on July 11th!

UPDATE: Summoners,

As many of you have reported, we are currently experiencing some unexpected hardware and software issues. This is causing many of you to experience limited access to the game, as well as sub par performance in game.

While we continue to investigate the issues and identify solutions, we will be delaying the start of Alliance Wars Season 3.

At this time, we do not have a timeline for when we will be launching Season 3, but want to ensure that we have time to work to resolve any interactions that are causing problems on iOS devices before starting the next competitive season.

We apologize for the delay, and appreciate your patience. We will update you all as soon as we have more information on these issues.

Comments

CapWW2

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

like the shorter season but the price to complete the maps just quadrupled. No more free fights and harder nodes.

So, with the exception of those Nodes on Challenger and Expert that we mentioned, we haven't made any other nodes harder. The new Nodes are meant to make things more difficult, but will also be visible from the get go, so Attackers are able to bring in champions to specifically counter whatever Champion they see there.

Removing diversity is much more important than the new nodes. There's gonna be 10+ IMIWs and Dorms on every map. I get why you did it, but it just stinks for the players.

I don't think anybody wants to place 10 Dormammu on a Map anymore... The Meta has shifted quite a bit since Diversity was introduced, and some of the former best Defenders have met their match now. Others may seem difficult right now, but Players have already started to find the counters needed for them! This will continue to happen in cycles, because that's just the nature of a game like this!

Your opinion seem not realistic. People will place 10 IMIW guaranteed. If you have those champs the repeat is a given. Dont you remember the 10 Nc, og spidy and hyperion coupled with the magiks???

Riegel

mutamatt wrote: »

shorten season great, there was already a lot of pressure on players to perform flawlessly. This change in scoring means that there will be much more pressure on players to not only perform flawlessly, but to drain their item stash to keep up if they hit a road block. we already don't want to let our alliance mates down.

This is NOT a good change for the players.

Get your anti depressants ready! It’s time for an even more brutal season!

Riegel

I don’t see any solve for the 2* problem?

iDazzaaa

Boo. This game type is just getting worse and worse...

NinjAlan

Riegel wrote: »

Kabam you need to hire someone who plays this game for real. It’s sad seeing so many things that no one wants keep getting pushed on us.

There's only one way we've ever gotten them to effectively listen to the community. But you can't say it or you get banned.

Rockon

and what about awakening gems for us that awakened champs used strictly for war?

Riegel

You’ve pushed people to rank for diversity and now you’ve pulled the rug out from under them. Their accounts are completely ruined. Not everyone has done this so issuing RDT’s is unfair. The diversity change is SUCH A BAD IDEA!

Kabam Miike

Riegel wrote: »

I don’t see any solve for the 2* problem?

Actually, this does have a solution to it baked in. While we're also going to be making sure this is something we continue to monitor for, and act on, 2-Star Wars only became effective towards the end of a Season when there was no need to worry about moving up or down. This is no longer the case, because there is no time when you are "safe" anymore.

Doofinator

You guys clearly don’t know your own game. I honestly want to know, do any of you play above Gold?

Maybe in lower tiers 100% shouldn’t be the norm but you aren’t really altering their maps...except to make them easier. You know for a fact everyone from master to plat 2 or plat 3 will have to 100% to compete.

Had us rank up a bunch of useless champions and then attempt to provide solace by saying, hey maybe things will change later...or maybe not. I’m not sure if you guys realize but you don’t have any goodwill here regarding player concerns.

You just removed skill from the game. Removing diversity naturally makes AW harder, on top of the new nodes to make war harder. Shorter wars coupled with increased downtime nets less rewards in the long term. Attack bonus shouldn’t be deciding wars?!? Attack bonus IS skill. You just took the biggest item sink and made it a bigger item sink. I honestly wish you guys would just once be totally honest and say “we don’t care if you hate it, we want to suck more money out of you.”

Seriously, every single part of this decision either shows a blatant ignorance of your own game or willful desire to spit in our faces...or both. The ONLY upside is shorter seasons which you tarnished by drastically upping the difficulty, removing skill, removing and wasting thoughtful roster choices, and failing to adjust rewards. Smh.

You’re right about one thing. This will shake stuff up a bit. I expect more retirement announcements than we’d already been getting after season ended. Slow clap

BitterSteel

All I can do is laugh at how out of touch people at kabam are. You didn’t listen to us at all did you?

The reason it is being 100% in expert is BECAUSE the rewards are so good. Not because it’s “easy”. It is ridiculous that we are being subjected to an even harder map, because you think it’s easy. This really makes me angry, and I’m not even going to have to deal with it. The absolute mess of a game mode that is seasons as driven me away from competitive alliance modes where I will join the many players not spending, not item using and in retirement. Well done kabam, you’ve done it again.

The only positive I see from this is shorter seasons.

I’m not sure if you know full well that it’s hard and you’re just profiting off making it harder so people spend even more, or whether you just have no idea what goes on in your game.

Either one is a pretty dull prospect in the game. I am utterly at a loss as to how this game is still going and why the whales carry on spending. I love playing but you guys are truly making it hard. Cheats are scattered along the top leaderboard, the rest of them more money than sense, look at crystal opening whale, dropping hudnereds of thousands and thousands of dollars weekly, and he spends thousands on Goldpool crystals when he has Goldpool 8 times already and 100m gold!

Not to mention the diversity change, conveniently (or rather inconveniently) announced after people have had time to rank 5 a defender champ, only to (the next day) find out diversity has changed. Couldn’t you have considered people would do this and therefore plan ahead?

So. What do to. I think season should be scrapped entirely and overhauled. They have far too many inherent problems, not even talking about how many cheaters are nabbing the top rewards. Take it down, think it through and put it out again or just leave it be. It’s too easily manipulated, with matchmaking able to show top alliances who they are matched with straight away. Matchmaking times can be manipulated so top alliances never fight each other which is cowardly and wrong. Change matchmaking completely into a new system. One that can’t be cheated.

Make a new aq season with equal (ish) rewards. One problem with seasons is that all of the best rewards in the game is in one spot. T5 basic, t2 alpha, 5* 6* shards, t4 basic and t4 class. Almost everything you need going to literally just the top alliances. Add in aq, and maybe a new solo mode where you can get these, and it’ll calm down the rush towards the top rewards. Like when multiple 4* arenas were added and cutoffs dropped because things were spread out.

Perhaps the top alliances would still be on top, perhaps they won’t.

All I can say to finish is how disappointed I am in this change, I keep finding myself saying this about each new update/change kabam does.

blindside493

They are suddenly very quiet lol

Doomsfist79

Sadly I think you guys may have finally killed your own product.. it's a shame.. i've been enjoying the game for the most part.. but have a feeling that's about to stop

. Will definitely be around to see how things are with the new changes.. but some of the decisions are just really out of touch.. To introduce something like diversity which people didn't want.. then we get used to it.. now you remove it.. seems a little shady to me..

JJW

Will there be any further Points adjustment as Diversity points represent as much as a 4500 point boon, and as much as a 6000 point gap between the Winner & Loser?

blindside493

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Riegel wrote: »

I don’t see any solve for the 2* problem?

Actually, this does have a solution to it baked in. While we're also going to be making sure this is something we continue to monitor for, and act on, 2-Star Wars only became effective towards the end of a Season when there was no need to worry about moving up or down. This is no longer the case, because there is no time when you are "safe" anymore.

I dont think this is very accurate man. The point of that 2 star war is to maximize points, so when the team behind you doesnt get the same number of points for a "perfect war" ...you stay ahead of them.

Kabam Miike

Rockon wrote: »

and what about awakening gems for us that awakened champs used strictly for war?

You can still use those Champions on Defense if you please, and might want to use them again in the future. This was a choice based on the Meta of the game at the time. The Meta will always change, and what might be a great Champion on Defense now, might not be in a few weeks, or a month, and then could end up as the top defender again in another 4 months.

There will be no Rank Down Tickets, or anything of the like, for this Change.

EDIT: For Clarity

EBG78

The_One wrote: »

War challenger and war Victor crystals are garbage and need a huge upgrade in rewards

Agree 100%. Getting a 3* arena point boost from a victory crystal after winning a tier 1-2 war is complete BS.

Tasty_Yum_Yums

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

like the shorter season but the price to complete the maps just quadrupled. No more free fights and harder nodes.

So, with the exception of those Nodes on Challenger and Expert that we mentioned, we haven't made any other nodes harder. The new Nodes are meant to make things more difficult, but will also be visible from the get go, so Attackers are able to bring in champions to specifically counter whatever Champion they see there.

Removing diversity is much more important than the new nodes. There's gonna be 10+ IMIWs and Dorms on every map. I get why you did it, but it just stinks for the players.

I don't think anybody wants to place 10 Dormammu on a Map anymore... The Meta has shifted quite a bit since Diversity was introduced, and some of the former best Defenders have met their match now. Others may seem difficult right now, but Players have already started to find the counters needed for them! This will continue to happen in cycles, because that's just the nature of a game like this!

I’d rather face an alliance that placed diversity than an alliance with 10 dorms. Dorm might be “easier” now but he’s still more of a challenge than the diversity champs people ranked up and placed this last season.

Yet another poor move by kabam. I understand RDTs are meant for individual champs that were nerfed, but this is a plausible situation where they are warranted. Then again, AA was needed and you all dropped the ball and reneged on your statements about RDTs for him.

machoyax

@Kabam Miike, Are we getting Rank down tickets for this? since diversity is now removed? This should be given to us

Chimpyboy

first, stop using "iterate" as a verb. It's annoying like the way people use "summer" as a verb.

Second - please lose the portals on all maps - when they were first introduced they were a fresh and interesting change - now they are just a stale and overused way to increase energy spend on any given map.

Allhell78

What about the elephant in the room ? RDT?

Anthrax0806

there is only one question:
what‘s wrong with you kabam?

it seems that you don‘t get not enough money from the community

and it isn‘t the truth that we have enough counters ... absolutely ridiculous

Riegel

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Riegel wrote: »

I don’t see any solve for the 2* problem?

Actually, this does have a solution to it baked in. While we're also going to be making sure this is something we continue to monitor for, and act on, 2-Star Wars only became effective towards the end of a Season when there was no need to worry about moving up or down. This is no longer the case, because there is no time when you are "safe" anymore.

From experience I can tell you it doesn’t matter what point you are at in the season. First war or last people will want the path of least resistance.

VTA92

Kabam Miike wrote: »

NevvB wrote: »

So you made the nodes harder, any changes in rewards?

The rewards have not changed (aside from Season rewards being halved to match the change in length). This is because Alliances were still finding these Maps far too easy. The goal of these changes is to put an end to the near 100% of wars ending in 100% Exploration.

Significant changes to Difficulty for the same rewards. Yup, seems par for the course. Nice work.

This is Sarcasm by the way, for all you Sheldon’s out there.

Kabam Miike

Chimpyboy wrote: »

first, stop using "iterate" as a verb. It's annoying like the way people use "summer" as a verb.

Second - please lose the portals on all maps - when they were first introduced they were a fresh and interesting change - now they are just a stale and overused way to increase energy spend on any given map.

But... Iterate can be used as a verb...

Fluffy

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Rockon wrote: »

and what about awakening gems for us that awakened champs used strictly for war?

You can still use those Champions on Defense if you please, and might want to use them again in the future. This was a choice based on the Meta of the game at the time. The Meta will always change, and what might be a great Champion on Defense now, might not be in a few weeks, or a month, and then could end up as the top defender again in another 4 months.

There will be no Rank Down Tickets, or anything of the like, for this Change.

EDIT: For Clarity

Bloody joke.

Scottryan

Kabam Miike wrote: »

Rockon wrote: »

and what about awakening gems for us that awakened champs used strictly for war?

You can still use those Champions on Defense if you please, and might want to use them again in the future. This was a choice based on the Meta of the game at the time. The Meta will always change, and what might be a great Champion on Defense now, might not be in a few weeks, or a month, and then could end up as the top defender again in another 4 months.

There will be no Rank Down Tickets, or anything of the like, for this Change.

EDIT: For Clarity

Smh

VimesVonlip

Man you guys are a joke. You simply screwed over anyone who ranked up **** champs specifically for diversity and all the people that just spent hundreds to get gold Deadpool who would have helped with diversity just wasted that money.

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winniewinwin

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

Kabam Miike wrote: »

ASV27 wrote: »

like the shorter season but the price to complete the maps just quadrupled. No more free fights and harder nodes.

So, with the exception of those Nodes on Challenger and Expert that we mentioned, we haven't made any other nodes harder. The new Nodes are meant to make things more difficult, but will also be visible from the get go, so Attackers are able to bring in champions to specifically counter whatever Champion they see there.

Removing diversity is much more important than the new nodes. There's gonna be 10+ IMIWs and Dorms on every map. I get why you did it, but it just stinks for the players.

I don't think anybody wants to place 10 Dormammu on a Map anymore... The Meta has shifted quite a bit since Diversity was introduced, and some of the former best Defenders have met their match now. Others may seem difficult right now, but Players have already started to find the counters needed for them! This will continue to happen in cycles, because that's just the nature of a game like this!

Totally not true. I already hear much discussion about lining up dorms, IM IW and Domino's in a row on the hardest nodes. Domino, like Dorm, gives unavoidable damage, so eventually you die or run out of pots. This will be the norm I guarantee.

Coatseyyy

Surely you lot at Kabam read the comments you force yourself to write and don’t agree? Hahaha

Good ole bait and switch, honestly, if you didn’t see this coming more fool you! Silly summoner!