I just try to keep people from thinking someone is a 1# Champion... whether it be class specific or overall. Because that's when I like to call..."The Blade Syndrome" sets in, & people start to think a champion works for everything, is way too overpowered... & should be nerfed. And when there is a Defender that said "Overpowered Champion" cannot take out effectively, people say that the Defender is too hard & should be nerfed. And then people get mad & say this whole game is random BS. All in all, saying someone is "By far the 1# Champion", is very unhealthy for the game
Deadpool x force is the best champ in the game change my mind. Also I only started commenting on this thread because they were trashing my girl medusa and my man Corvus. They are all definitely good, atleast we can all agree on that.
Hyperion is the #1 cosmic champ and it is not even close. I do have all 3. Hyperion you just sit and just spam specials. If getting a heavy is hard for you due to a node just wait until you get 3 comsic charges and your attack is thru the roof.
Forcing heavy is a must have LOL strategy too. I am amazed this is even a conversation. The difference between Hyperion to any other champ is that using others you got to intercept and parry. With hyperion you dont even have to do that if you want to. Hyperion only with 3 cosmic charges and no furies hit harder than medusa and corvus and hela and any other champ. Just do the math.
#1 is a very broad term. But if you are saying he is #1 for everything... well then... that is kinda odd. Also, no. Corvus hits WAY harder than Hype in his 1st 20 hits, & Medusa's damage is very similar to Hypes as well dude.
That is not true. You can have an opinion. It does not make it truth. No Hyperion is not the answer for absolutely everything because A bleed node will kill him. However as a heavy hitter he finishes fights faster for a reason. Just how many hits medusa takes to beat SL in LOL in a test run?
I checked videos of both 5/65 Medusa and Hyperion in LOL and Hyperion is very superior. Again you dont even have to intercept with hyperion just sit back and spam specials. Hyperion is #1 cosmic. Medusa and corvus might be fighting for #2 altough I consider Hela better than those 2 if talking about incredible damage.
Dude, even if Hypes damage was better (which it isn't) he still lacks in utility. He has no evade countering mechanic, no auto block counter mechanic, & no bleed immunity. Corvus has all of that. Hyperion isn't gonna be taking out Emma Frost in AW either, but both Medusa & Corvus can. Last but not least, Medusa & Corvus both beat him out in Prestige. Also, please show my any video of Hyperions damage being superior to Medusa in Labyrinth. And don't even mention Hela... she's not even worth an honorable in the God Tiers
He does not need counter evade lmao. Listen one more time: spam specials until the enemy is dead. You barely even move on the screen. Just sit back and relax just like old DS pre 12.0. He does have utility. He has regen, he is poison immune, he has armor break, he has stuns. He is #1.
More damage, lets effort, no intercepts or parry needed. You get furies by forcing heavy which is the stun immune strategy. So respectfully speaking, you need to do more research. Have fun!!!
lol i like this thread.. its like watching who like a certain champs best.
Thx god we all have diff opinion who we like best.
but saying he is the 1 cosmic champs for att.. hmmm depending on the fights really..
u have to generate xxx amount of fights with all kind of nodes and diff champs.. then compare the 3 top champs that mentions over and over.. and do fight.
Then u prob wud get diff result.
Time of Kill
Min- max dmg output
Deal dmg in xxx hits
Hp left
dmg deal in xxx sec
and so on
If HYP really is the true cosmic in att he shud get number 1 in all kind of situation.
If u mention LOL Corvus dont count at all due his limited and time of his crit dmg. then many many other champs is way better to finish lol that him.
The thing about hyp able to reg is awesome. Who doesnt like when a champ can save some potions.
https://youtu.be/n0ancTyn8xk - this is a video founded on youtube. Corvus take of a AW r5 5 star medusa 76% of Medusa HP with only 22 hits.. within 36 secs..
So talking about true number 1 cosmic.... like i said.. depending on fight.. and opinion. But i dont think Hyp will ever match that AW boss fight like Corvus. and reverse.. Corvus wudnt even prob be number 5-6 in LOL best cosmic..
Hela, Angela, Drax, Proxima wud prob be better used in LOL.
All in all depending on fights and playstyle and which champs u like to play with
U can do this discussion in each class and u will always get diff answer.. cuz it aint math where 2+2=4
Corvus and Medusa aren’t anywhere near Hyperion damage potential lol
Is that a joke?
it's clearly true. medusa's damage is capped by 3 furies (duped), Corvus - by 20 hits. my not duped hype can hold 6-8 furies easily, take duped Hype - it will be smth like 10-14 I guess. he is not close to starlord, but better then those two for longer fights for sure
Maybe he might have them damage wise in long fights, but they smash him in other places. Aw attack: which one of the 3 would you take in? Most would take corvus, you should know that. Aw defense : which out of the 3? Clearly medusa
AQ: either Corvus or medusa, I'll probably take medusa to shut down all the bots.
Questing: me personally I don't like having to build up furies with him every match, takes too long. I would rather take in corvus or Medusa, especially medusa just incase I miss a block she can save me.
Again I'll post this, would love for someone to show me how he is better than those two at what I stated
So i know hypes already get a lot of love and is widely considered god tier. but i just dont feel its enough, I feel he is the damn best champ in the game, he can do it all. insane dmg on everything. incinerate on s1.. stun and armor break on s2. cosmic charges from s3. his unmatchable power gain. theres also a pretty sweet regen for longer fights. i mean who else does all that!!! anyone not from the mystic class easy fight
ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN THE FUN FOR THE REST OF US?
WHATS THE POINT OF THIS?
Corvus and Medusa aren’t anywhere near Hyperion damage potential lol
Is that a joke?
it's clearly true. medusa's damage is capped by 3 furies (duped), Corvus - by 20 hits. my not duped hype can hold 6-8 furies easily, take duped Hype - it will be smth like 10-14 I guess. he is not close to starlord, but better then those two for longer fights for sure
Maybe he might have them damage wise in long fights, but they smash him in other places. Aw attack: which one of the 3 would you take in? Most would take corvus, you should know that. Aw defense : which out of the 3? Clearly medusa
AQ: either Corvus or medusa, I'll probably take medusa to shut down all the bots.
Questing: me personally I don't like having to build up furies with him every match, takes too long. I would rather take in corvus or Medusa, especially medusa just incase I miss a block she can save me.
Again I'll post this, would love for someone to show me how he is better than those two at what I stated
AW attack: I'm not denying corvus is great. He is certainly great. I'm saying hyperion doesn't need all those ridiculous boosts to 1 shot an AW boss. I took a 5/65 medusa out in 1 fight with my hyperion just a couple wars ago. No synergies and no boosts. Now I can't do it in 40 seconds buy why does that matter? 1 fight is 1 fight.
AW defense: pointless for this debate
AQ: Hyperion can shut down sentinels just as easily as medusa can. Probably even better since sentinels aren't incinerate immune.
Questing: Hyperion has regen and his power gain gives him significant utility for lots of fights. He has been my all-star for the majority of UC bosses.
Hyperion's only weakness is some mystic defenders such as mephisto, magik, and morning star, but those champs are problems for medusa and corvus as well.
About the other only real weakness I see for hype besides Morningstar is Medusa on the mirror image node. Didn't think through the implications the first time through.
he's very multi dimensional, but he cannot handle limber, or stun immune very well. Also a massive pain for champs that negate your abilities, like mephisto, dorm, or even magik.
Corvus and Medusa aren’t anywhere near Hyperion damage potential lol
Is that a joke?
it's clearly true. medusa's damage is capped by 3 furies (duped), Corvus - by 20 hits. my not duped hype can hold 6-8 furies easily, take duped Hype - it will be smth like 10-14 I guess. he is not close to starlord, but better then those two for longer fights for sure
Maybe he might have them damage wise in long fights, but they smash him in other places. Aw attack: which one of the 3 would you take in? Most would take corvus, you should know that. Aw defense : which out of the 3? Clearly medusa
AQ: either Corvus or medusa, I'll probably take medusa to shut down all the bots.
Questing: me personally I don't like having to build up furies with him every match, takes too long. I would rather take in corvus or Medusa, especially medusa just incase I miss a block she can save me.
Again I'll post this, would love for someone to show me how he is better than those two at what I stated
AW attack: I'm not denying corvus is great. He is certainly great. I'm saying hyperion doesn't need all those ridiculous boosts to 1 shot an AW boss. I took a 5/65 medusa out in 1 fight with my hyperion just a couple wars ago. No synergies and no boosts. Now I can't do it in 40 seconds buy why does that matter? 1 fight is 1 fight.
AW defense: pointless for this debate
AQ: Hyperion can shut down sentinels just as easily as medusa can. Probably even better since sentinels aren't incinerate immune.
Questing: Hyperion has regen and his power gain gives him significant utility for lots of fights. He has been my all-star for the majority of UC bosses.
Hyperion's only weakness is some mystic defenders such as mephisto, magik, and morning star, but those champs are problems for medusa and corvus as well.
AW attack: You don't have to use Boosts for Corvus, but even if you didn't, doesn't matter... because everyone in high tiers boost up no matter who they are playing with in AW.
AW defense: I'm am astonished you think Hyperion is better than Medusa on Defense. Not sure what Tier you are in, but in High Tier AW, Medusa easily gets WAY more kills than Hyperion ever can. Power Gain is nothing difficult a
AQ: Hyperion can shut down sentinels just as easily as medusa can. Probably even better since sentinels aren't incinerate immune.
Questing: Hyperion has regen and his power gain gives him significant utility for lots of fights. He has been my all-star for the majority of UC bosses.
Hyperion is the best plain and simple. Of course there are one or 2 nodes another champ is better. Still hyperion #1 by far.
Intercepting and parry is not difficult but why do it if you dont have to 😂
For example. I stun immune node with degen or electro just to mention: guess what Hyperion. Hyperion can clear even LOL electro.
The corvus hype is alright because of IMIW who can be defeated with any champ.
My SL beats him just force him to do heavies and counter heavy. Not rocket science.
Medusa is mehhh. Way too many hits and contact tapping. I just sit back and spam specials until the enemy is dead. Dont have to do a thing.
So you say Intercepting/Parrying isn't hard, but you pefer to spam Specials instead. So you are saying that Hype is the best cosmic, because he fits you're play Style??? Hahaha. Dude, I'm glad you enjoy his play style, I enjoy it too, but that doesn't make him the #1 Cosmic by any means. And Hype isn't better than any regular champ for Electro dude, don't know where you are going there. And the fact that you think Medusa is a "Meh Champion"... is quite absurd too.
This is the same guy that thinks Morningstar is trash
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Deadpool x force is the best champ in the game change my mind. Also I only started commenting on this thread because they were trashing my girl medusa and my man Corvus. They are all definitely good, atleast we can all agree on that.
He does not need counter evade lmao. Listen one more time: spam specials until the enemy is dead. You barely even move on the screen. Just sit back and relax just like old DS pre 12.0. He does have utility. He has regen, he is poison immune, he has armor break, he has stuns. He is #1.
More damage, lets effort, no intercepts or parry needed. You get furies by forcing heavy which is the stun immune strategy. So respectfully speaking, you need to do more research. Have fun!!!
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Spite???? Just get heavy attacks and do SP3
Then AI reach Sp3 too. I forgot to add safeguard being present.
I think so.
Thx god we all have diff opinion who we like best.
but saying he is the 1 cosmic champs for att.. hmmm depending on the fights really..
u have to generate xxx amount of fights with all kind of nodes and diff champs.. then compare the 3 top champs that mentions over and over.. and do fight.
Then u prob wud get diff result.
Time of Kill
Min- max dmg output
Deal dmg in xxx hits
Hp left
dmg deal in xxx sec
and so on
If HYP really is the true cosmic in att he shud get number 1 in all kind of situation.
If u mention LOL Corvus dont count at all due his limited and time of his crit dmg. then many many other champs is way better to finish lol that him.
The thing about hyp able to reg is awesome. Who doesnt like when a champ can save some potions.
So talking about true number 1 cosmic.... like i said.. depending on fight.. and opinion. But i dont think Hyp will ever match that AW boss fight like Corvus. and reverse.. Corvus wudnt even prob be number 5-6 in LOL best cosmic..
Hela, Angela, Drax, Proxima wud prob be better used in LOL.
All in all depending on fights and playstyle and which champs u like to play with
U can do this discussion in each class and u will always get diff answer.. cuz it aint math where 2+2=4
Hyperion is just great. Hands down, full stock. Needs nothing or no one. Can take almost any fight in AW/AQ/UC event/LoL.
He has far more utility than anyone gives him credit for. Much more than medusa and CG ever thought of having.
He is a true beast.
Again I'll post this, would love for someone to show me how he is better than those two at what I stated
ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN THE FUN FOR THE REST OF US?
WHATS THE POINT OF THIS?
AW attack: I'm not denying corvus is great. He is certainly great. I'm saying hyperion doesn't need all those ridiculous boosts to 1 shot an AW boss. I took a 5/65 medusa out in 1 fight with my hyperion just a couple wars ago. No synergies and no boosts. Now I can't do it in 40 seconds buy why does that matter? 1 fight is 1 fight.
AW defense: pointless for this debate
AQ: Hyperion can shut down sentinels just as easily as medusa can. Probably even better since sentinels aren't incinerate immune.
Questing: Hyperion has regen and his power gain gives him significant utility for lots of fights. He has been my all-star for the majority of UC bosses.
Hyperion's only weakness is some mystic defenders such as mephisto, magik, and morning star, but those champs are problems for medusa and corvus as well.
Intercepting and parry is not difficult but why do it if you dont have to 😂
For example. I stun immune node with degen or electro just to mention: guess what Hyperion. Hyperion can clear even LOL electro.
The corvus hype is alright because of IMIW who can be defeated with any champ.
My SL beats him just force him to do heavies and counter heavy. Not rocket science.
Medusa is mehhh. Way too many hits and contact tapping. I just sit back and spam specials until the enemy is dead. Dont have to do a thing.
This is the same guy that thinks Morningstar is trash