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Elsa applying degen when under suicides
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Who are you talking about when you say WE?
How do you know that she was designed to bleed with double edge?
That is your opinion, that is not fact. It may occur but unless you have spoken to a design team member you have no factual evidence of this.
You stated an opinion as fact.
Could not load a video with rhino as it won’t allow me but all it would take was for you to play with him for 30 seconds, instead your first port of call is to get on here and tell someone they are wrong.
Why should I not point out you were wrong? You WERE wrong, you stated as fact that her degen did not scale. That’s misinformation
Who are you talking about when you say WE? People who did not know about the bug commenting on threads with limited infoamtion.
How do you know that she was designed to bleed with double edge? Does double edge count as a bleed with Omega red and death field? Yes, double edge is a bleed, it has a bleed icon, other bleeds stack on top of double edge.
That is your opinion, that is not fact. It may occur but unless you have spoken to a design team member you have no factual evidence of this.. Except I do, OR, unless you think his death field should not active that activates on bleeds, which would be a major nerf.
You stated an opinion as fact. I state fact and probabilities, I can be wrong just like you are wrong here.
Could not load a video with rhino as it won’t allow me but all it would take was for you to play with him for 30 seconds, instead your first port of call is to get on here and tell someone they are wrong. In a thread about bugs you need to provide that sort of information if you are going against all available information. Outside of that bug if anyone else had posted that thread the information would have been correct and he would have been missing his heavy. The onus to show a bug is on you.
Why should I not point out you were wrong? You WERE wrong, you stated as fact that her degen did not scale. That’s misinformation
You are overgeneralizing. Tell me I am incorrect and tell me why and how I am incorrect. Dont tell me *everything* I have said has been incorrect, which is false. Do nto attack me directly, attack my argument. I was wrong, I stated it did not in fact scale and I have in fact owned up to that error. That one error that I owned up to does not establish "All you’ve done is feed misinformation," and does not justify you taking the thread off topic.
Who said I’m mad? I’m talking with you
And you made this thread personal, talking AT me more than WITH me.
https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/163558/is-elsa-going-to-be-an-aw-nightmare-unless-you-have-her-barrier-to-entry-champions#latest
You are so bent on being 100% correct and proving me to be 100% false that you cannot even admit when you are wrong.
It is intended to be that way,
This is an opinion, you have no idea whether or not her degen was meant to interact with suicides.
but it is a set amount.
Wrong it isn’t.
Also it will not kill you in under 20 seconds,
This is wrong as it does kill you in under 20 seconds
it does 5800 damage in 20 seconds, less than a good single hit.
This is also worn
It is in her spotlight. None of this is in her spotlight so it’s also wrong.
Better?
Saying that it is not meant to wort with suicides is saying Omega Red death field is not intended to work with suicides, which also works only when under the affect of a bleed. Claiming that double edge is not a bleed, when in every aspect of the game it is counted as a bleed, and it stacks with other bleeds and is not its own debuff is completely illogical.
It literally states in her spotlight:
When Elsa is affected by a Bleed Debuff, Non-Mutant Champions gain a Passive Degeneration dealing 145.92 Direct Damage every 0.5 seconds until all Bleed Debuffs on Elsa end. While this Degen is active Opponents are also Heal Blocked.
So yes, unless yuou can show me how double edge is not a bleed debuff, when it acts as a bleed debuff in every other aspect of the game, it is literally in her champion spotlight.
And dont think I havent noticed that I have pointed out that it being a bleed debuff is what makes OR so powerful and you have ignored it every time.
Where was I wrong again? You stated you said you were wrong 3 times, you didn’t say it here or to me, how was I supposed to know you’d changed your opinion?
It literally states in her spotlight:
When Elsa is affected by a Bleed Debuff, Non-Mutant Champions gain a Passive Degeneration dealing 145.92 Direct Damage every 0.5 seconds until all Bleed Debuffs on Elsa end. While this Degen is active Opponents are also Heal Blocked.
So yes, unless yuou can show me how double edge is not a bleed debuff, when it acts as a bleed debuff in every other aspect of the game, it is literally in her champion spotlight.
And dont think I havent noticed that I have pointed out that it being a bleed debuff is what makes OR so powerful and you have ignored it every time.
When I said bleed I meant degen. Don’t think I haven’t noticed how you fixated on that one point instead of every other point in that post you quoted.
You have no idea whether it was meant to degen when under suicides, all you’re doing is assuming which is your opinion which was the point.
The 2 are tied together. It does not matter if you say bleed or degen they are both 100% tied together:
When Elsa is affected by a Bleed Debuff, (double edge is a bleed debuff)
Non-Mutant (mutants are safe)
Champions gain a Passive Degeneration dealing 145.92 Direct Damage every 0.5 seconds
until all Bleed Debuffs on Elsa end. (survives things like furies decoy death)
While this Degen is active Opponents are also Heal Blocked.
In order to show it should not work with suicides you have to prove one of 2 things:
1) double edge is not a bleed which would be a major nerf for OR
2) it should be a passive which would be a major nerf for aegon and other buff shurggers and make ghulk nearly unstoppable with 100% faceme uptime.
Those are 2 things you cannot show.
You asked me to point out where you wrong, I pointed it out.
You’re now running this in another direction
AGAIN
When Elsa is affected by a Bleed Debuff, Non-Mutant Champions gain a Passive Degeneration dealing 145.92 Direct Damage every 0.5 seconds until all Bleed Debuffs on Elsa end. While this Degen is active Opponents are also Heal Blocked.
If she is bleeding you get a degen, double edge is bleeding, therefore you get a degen. Claim I have no idea if it is supposed to work that way, when it literally tells you it should work that way, is the height of arrogance.
You where did you point out I am wrong? Also you were the one who started attacking me, taking the thread off topic.