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Mephisto Takes Damage from Nova Flame???
Midknight007
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Mephisto is supposed to gain power instead of damage from incinerate energy:
Yet Mephisto takes damage from Human Torch (especially when Nova Flame is placed on him:
Yet Nova Flame is treated like Incinerate Debuffs... Why would this suddenly change the type of damage being taken? I would think the issue is that how the passive damage is programmed is not allowing Mephisto’s ability to prevent the damage (as it is a passive charge that is treated like a debuff).
Can Kabam clarify this, as it looks like an oversight?
Yet Mephisto takes damage from Human Torch (especially when Nova Flame is placed on him:
Yet Nova Flame is treated like Incinerate Debuffs... Why would this suddenly change the type of damage being taken? I would think the issue is that how the passive damage is programmed is not allowing Mephisto’s ability to prevent the damage (as it is a passive charge that is treated like a debuff).
Can Kabam clarify this, as it looks like an oversight?
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I am not saying you are wrong that it is intended to be that way, but that the skill is not 100% clear as they are written.
As that passive ability is on the opponent, it will gain the same properties as a incinerate debuff for Human Torch abilities
It was one of the big asks that Dave brought up.
Again, thank you for the input and being so respectful.
And you should try being a bit more considerate in your posts. You come off as condescending and not engaging in open dialogue.
I am guessing that is why Kabam just says “energy damage”, but then later states as an incinerate debuff in HT’s description. Sigh... Things use to be so simple in pre-12.0 Lol
Think of debuffs as a kind of flag. When you're affected by a debuff, the game sticks a flag on you. The debuff type is the label on the flag. The debuff doesn't do anything in and of itself. Instead, debuffs have effects, and each effect can do a different thing. The effects have their own types, which do not necessarily have to be tied to the name on the flag (this is an oversimplification, but a useful one here).
In the case of Human Torch, Nova Flame is the name on the flag for the debuff. That debuff has effects. One of them is that it deals energy damage over time. Another is it also lowers perfect block chance and another is that places a power sting effect on the target. It shouldn't confuse anyone that the debuff is not a "perfect block debuff" even though it reduces perfect block chance. And neither should it confuse anyone that it deals energy damage, even though it is a Nova Flame debuff that is treated like incinerate debuffs for the purposes of HT's other abilities.
Thank you for your contribution to this discussion. I think it is more that Nova Flame is just a generic “energy damage” and not incinerate (though flame in the name and what it does is pretty much equivalent to incinerate, it just isn’t because Kabam doesn’t want the label - more because Mystic vs Science). However, you do make some interesting points.
There's a theoretical way to test this, that I'm not in a position to do at the moment. You could pre-fight your way into applying Nova Flame from the start, and fight a Void. But since prefight doesn't work in duels, I can't do a quick test of this. I will try to do one if I remember when I next encounter a Void "in the wild."