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Widening Gap among Summoners
Horror_punk
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In recent days/months the gap between summoners has widened a lot because Kabam offering Higher end resources on Cash basis and limiting resources (rewards) in monthly events or special quests etc.
Though it’s ok to let the pay to play players at an advantage but now it seems impossible to even get a little closer to the top players.
E.g Gifting event was one such example. Similarly Abyss i would say (requiring a certain set of champs)
It’s a competitive game and i feel that there must be some scope for free2play or lesser paying players too so that they feel they can compete with others. But with the changes from past few months i feel either you need to dump a good cash to go up or donate handful of your time to grind units.
Maybe an overhaul to arenas (offering t2a/t5b) or SA (offering more 5*/6* shards) or Monthly quests is the need of hour to push the lower level guys.
Any other suggestions are welcomed
Thanks
Though it’s ok to let the pay to play players at an advantage but now it seems impossible to even get a little closer to the top players.
E.g Gifting event was one such example. Similarly Abyss i would say (requiring a certain set of champs)
It’s a competitive game and i feel that there must be some scope for free2play or lesser paying players too so that they feel they can compete with others. But with the changes from past few months i feel either you need to dump a good cash to go up or donate handful of your time to grind units.
Maybe an overhaul to arenas (offering t2a/t5b) or SA (offering more 5*/6* shards) or Monthly quests is the need of hour to push the lower level guys.
Any other suggestions are welcomed
Thanks
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(tongue in cheek sarcasm) ..
Nah, it's fine ... if you're not spending/playing to the degree the "whales" are, then you aren't *really* competing ... stop looking at the "top pros" and trying to compare .. find your level .. find you equal competition, and do what YOU can do ..
And time investment is necessary i agree but still you can’t catch it up
If you clearing the content by sheer hardwork then it’s not debatable but buying high end resources without doing much is an issue of concern.
Beyond that, the rewards achievable in the arenas are far higher than they used to be prior to the v12 update. It is not difficult to get hundreds if not thousands of units a month grinding for moderate amounts in the arenas, Uncollected rewards are not difficult for upper-moderate progress players to achieve, and even the calendars are generating far higher rewards than they used to. And the glory store was a huge improvement in the reward system for AQ, and has only gotten better over time.
It has always been the case that to advance quickly in the game you either had to spend cash or spend time grinding in the game. That's always been true. The difference is today you get a lot more for your grind time than you used to get, and the bottleneck resources have more of a graduated constraint than a cliff face. An uncollected player in a Map 3/4 alliance can expect to get enough resources to rank up two or three rank 5s just from AQ and UC monthly events alone, much less special event rewards. Not that long ago that same player could not hope to make more than a single rank 4 in a year if that.
To be blunt, the gap you're perceiving is between what you want and what you can get, not the gap between players in the game. The moderate middle progress players have never had it better in the game than they have now. They aren't going to catch up with the top players in the game, but they never could at any time in the game and frankly they never should be able to do that. But what they can do today is far more than what they could do, relative to what the top players can do today.
this increase is greater recently then anytime I could remember prior. you have people with 10+ K prestige who haven't even taken down the champion in 6.2
This being said, I am ok with it. They spent the money, they get the leg up. If i wanted the leg up bad enough, I would have spent the money
I think you nicely explained it. Maybe that’s the situation nowadays.
Thanks for feedback and replies everyone
I too mentioning the same thing but didn’t put it more elaborately
nope ... they've got both .. just like pro sports players (ie hockey, whatever) .. they spend the money on training, and many other things that help them play better ..
It's a very close analogy, but you seem to think it's completely different.
Now, that said, I believe what you're thinking, is comparable to a pro sports player juicing up on steroids
That "sucks" (and I don't condone it .. ) .. but it's also not really useful to focus on those as the "norm".
The norm, would be the ones with the core skills .. plus a good wallet to support it.
And there isn't anything wrong with that. They don't deserve to be "nerfed" because you feel you can't compete.
AND they can only be used on 6* champs which are themselves harder to get, more expensive to rank up, and don't even offer the same relative benefit when you do rank them up. Every T2A and T5B you pour into a 6* champ to use that T5CC is literally multiple rank 5s you're forgoing. Unless you're at a progress level where you can easily get a lot of those, even if I straight up hand you a T5CC there's not much you can do with it, and spending it on a 6* champ could actually make your overall roster worse.
If someone buys a bunch of T5CC crystals and you don't they aren't creating a gap between them and you as much as they are just leveraging a gap that already exists. Because those T5CC are only useful to them if they are way, way ahead of you already.
But at the same time what @Mcord11758 said above isn’t an issue???
Please throw some light on it as well
But I've just learned to accept this. The more profitable the game is the longer it will last and the more investment they will make towards improving it. And aside from a few small areas (like never being able to compete for top 150 in arena) the top end players don't really affect me that much. The sooner you can focus on your own experience and ignore the rest, the happier you will likely be.
We aren't all the same. Some people want to play in alliances, some don't. Some people have time to grind, some don't.
Some people spend money, some don't.
There is always going to be something to separate players. Always.
But this delusion that people who actually spend money -- real money -- but shouldn't get value that Kabam and the spender mutually agree upon...that is just not how the real world works.
I understand that some people who post are kids who don't understand this fact of life, but this is a business.
People who spend money want value for it.
We can go back and forth about fairness and competition but this is business and Kabam as the seller and spenders as buyers are going to do what is necessary to find mutual agreement
Have to go with their pace
That's supposed to be how it works.
Maybe i need to step into his shoes too
Comparing isn’t good then
Will enjoy the stuffs now on
Thanks @DNA3000 you always give good advice or suggestions on forums. Keep it up bro
Or you can flip this around. There's a guy a year in the future you can help today. A little grind, a little practice, some smart rank ups, and he's going to have a much better game. Do it for him.
Been playing since 5 years and recently did LOL 100%. Also all the Variants are explored except current one (due to 1* hulk)
I can say that there’s a good level of progression I’ve achieved. I never thought of doing LOL after I completed my first run way back with 4* SL but now it feels good that i did it.
Same goes with story quests.
And yess I’ll do it for that future guy definitely 🙂
Due to time constraints in real life I play in a relatively low key alliance for my skill level these days(and have for well over a year coming off a 6 month break before that) that runs map 4 and play AW tier 5-7 on average to place in gold 1. I also do not spend on the game. I do arena though for units.
I still have a roster with enough solid champs at a high enough levels to have all variants but variant 1 explored 100%(just need to wrap up exploring the 3rd chapter of 1 after circling back to it), have 6.1 100%, 6.2 exploration started and 6.3 completion done and am looking at taking a run at easy path of abyss after watching live streams in about 1-2 months once I’ve saved the units and hopefully pull fury(sitting on skill awakening gem and r5 gem for him currently).
It’s a game that does offer advantage to those willing to shell out money. If you aren’t then you need to play the game smarter with resource allocation and unit use and also need to prioritize every rank up in your roster at giving you something you need in your toolkit to to help you clear content.
Don’t get caught up in the massive roster PI or the prestige chase unless your willing to shell out a ton of time or money to keep up. Better off focusing on building the skills and roster to keep up with the content being released.