Omega Red Essence Steal

Stagedear85 · January 2020

I've test this many time and yeah I can confirm this is an issue hopefully its fix before the next update.

the_eradicator · January 2020

I confirm this is a bug . Power drain is either not happening or taking a lot of time to drain which was not the case before.

Midknight007 · January 2020

I am also noticing that Doctor Voodoo’s Power Leech of an SP3 is also suffering the same issue. I think it may be from the AI tuned so high in respect to reaction time. It is no secret that computers can react faster than 99.999% of humans. It might be that the very split millisecond the SP3 ends the AI can respond after coming out of the animation of getting up and the system doesn’t apply any buffs or debuffs until after both sides can respond.

I am also seeing that the system is automatically having the player close the gap after the player’s SP3 animation ends as if the player had long dashed back. Shouldn’t there be a normal distance between the two champs? This doesn’t allow the player time to attack without having to dash in and be intercepted.

When the AI does a SP3, it is standing within striking distance and attacking while the player get up animation has literally just completed and right when they are able to respond. That is not fair, as the AI has an unfair advantage.

This also happens in both videos.

Before player activates SP3

After the player’s SP3 ends (it is hard to catch the Ronin match because the slider cannot catch the split second after the players SP3, but you will see 5 (3 time stamp as to see what happens):

This is Before the AI activates SP3, (again, it is hard to get the Ronin one as it is right when the AI hits SP3):

After the AI’s SP3 ends:

It seems like the large gap is to prevent the player from striking immediately after a SP3, but that the developers want that advantage for the AI and for PCs the player to immediately evade/block. Why the difference? Any insight the team can give @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit?

Onmix · January 2020

Don’t forget about Warlock. I believe it’s happening to him too

Greywarden · January 2020

Onmix said:
Don’t forget about Warlock. I believe it’s happening to him too

That was always the case with warlock though. His power drain was never immediate whereas Omega's was always immediate until a few weeks ago.

Midknight007 · January 2020

I did some testing... it seems the distance between champs is based on the champ that launches the SP3. If the player with Hyperion does an SP3, the same distance is given.

Good to know there is some consistency between champs and the player/AI. Though it is weird that some champs have a dramatic distance. Is it because OR needs to be that far as to not generate Spores while the system adjust to gameplay after the cutscene?

It would make sense.

Kabam Zibiit · January 2020

The videos were passed along to the rest of the team. Once more information is available to share, we'll let everyone know.

Lovek · January 2020

Thank you !! Hope they will fix it asap.

joke1004 · January 2020

Warlock is affected by the same issue. Opponents will launch their sp3 after I used an sp3 although Warlocks sp3 should power drain while infections are up.

Bloodylocks · January 2020

Just had this issue in AQ against SymSup.... Raced him at last second to Sp3 we both had it but I was able to throw mine after combo. 24 spores up should have been a very solid essence steal topping my health and letting me finish the 10% or so health he would have left after.... Instead he immediately threw his Sp3 after my animation finished. I did not survive and will possibly need to res and pot up to finish lane. Very agitating when a champ suddenly doesn't work as intended.

genibus81 · February 2020

Any update on this? This one is really bad especially for war. Previously using an SP3 was a safeguard against the AI SP3 but not anymore, they immediately retaliate w/an SP3 its like the power drain doesn't activate when it used to

Kabam Zibiit · February 2020

The team is still working on resolving this issue and will post updates once we have more information to share.

Jaina97 · February 2020

This has also happened with warlock for me. I'll try to record soon.

Greywarden · February 2020

Jaina97 said:
This has also happened with warlock for me. I'll try to record soon.

Warlock has always been a delayed power drain whereas omega never was until the last few weeks-months.

Riverluck · February 2020

Another concerned OR user here as well. Hopefully this will be fixed asap and it won't drag for far too long.

genibus81 · February 2020

Any update on this? This one is really bad especially for war. Previously using an SP3 was a safeguard against the AI SP3 but not anymore, they immediately retaliate w/an SP3 its like the power drain doesn't activate when it used to

Greywarden · February 2020

Still broken, hop on Lagacy's twitter if you want to see the latest video of this in action. I know you guys are working on it but timelines would be helpful. This has been an issue for months now and having to wait for patch notes to not see the fix there and then hear "we're looking into it" every few weeks is pretty disheartening.

nOux · February 2020

This just happened to me. 30 spores essence steal started its effect duration but no power was drained. And of course AI launched sp3 moment after.

ΜιKE · February 2020

@Kabam Zibiit is there an update on this? appreciate the help

Greywarden · February 2020

Two weeks since the last update on this, any word on when this is getting in a patch?

DarkChyld14 · February 2020

Any update on this issue?

Kabam Zibiit · February 2020

The team is still looking into this issue but is working on a resolution that should be able to be implemented in the next update.

Moosetiptronic · February 2020

Although I rarely use Omega's sp3, I was interested in this being resolved as he's my main champion, but it hadn't impacted me until today....

Map 4, day 4 second corvus. Got light intercepted (annoyingly passive AI...) And took a full 5 hit combo to the face. Had three bars of power and 28 spores up, so hit sp3. Corvus on roughly 16% health immediately hits his sp3 (I forgot about strike back node), without the fight even restarting after my sp3 animation.

I die.

Had to revive and use a pot.

As usual, if this was a glitch which benefited the player base, it would have been fixed long ago.

And call me cynical, but I think they won't change it and will just change his text description instead.

genibus81 · February 2020

Kabam Zibiit said:
The team is still looking into this issue but is working on a resolution that should be able to be implemented in the next update.

Its not in the patch notes

Stagedear85 · February 2020

i was just about to comment on this because i don't see it in the patch note.

Greywarden · February 2020

Came here to comment on the same thing. No mention of the Omega Essence Steal fix in the update notes. Any ideas on timing @Kabam Zibiit ?

Seraphion · February 2020

Seraphion · February 2020

Leiva_dark said:

Stagedear85 said:
had sometime to think about this topic and I bet that they're just going to change his description to match what he's doing now, instead of fixing the issue.
I would not be surprised, but it would be a bad sign (Without offending someone) it would show that the team cannot solve something so simple, I would speak very badly about them, I hope they will only forget to publish the fix.

Just look at the pic above you pls

Seraphion · February 2020

Fair enough

Omega Red Essence Steal

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