**Mastery Loadouts**
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Due to issues related to the release of Mastery Loadouts, the "free swap" period will be extended.
The new end date will be May 1st.
Terribly handled AW issue.
Rougeknight87
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Not sure why it’s acceptable to extend the rewards payout by a week and inconvenience everyone further rather then just ending the season a bit earlier instead?
The initial technical mistake is fine, those things happen but the way that initial mistake has been subsequently handled is a farce.
Players and alliance leaders/officers being further inconvenienced every step of the process.
Really Scratching my head at this one, don’t like to repeat it but honestly smacks of terrible leadership.
Wise up
The initial technical mistake is fine, those things happen but the way that initial mistake has been subsequently handled is a farce.
Players and alliance leaders/officers being further inconvenienced every step of the process.
Really Scratching my head at this one, don’t like to repeat it but honestly smacks of terrible leadership.
Wise up
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No matter how obvious an idea seems to you, there's thousands of players that think its dumb. There is no obvious way to resolve the problem that everyone would agree with, and I don't see your suggestion as being obviously better (or worse) than what's happening now.
Shortening the season or admitting that it’s compromised Is admitting fault. Payout people where they finished and bring forward the next season.
Players might be unhappy but no-one is inconvenienced like they are with this scenario. You’re also going to have players being kicked and getting nothing for their troubles.
On top of this going into these last 2 wars there is no way to tell where you are on the leaderboard, we’re all going blind which means we may be wasting hard earned items we otherwise would not have to.
Many More negatives in continuing down this road then just admitting fault at the first step and getting on with it.
Which is what they would say as well. You are clearly willing to dismiss the complaint that a shorter season reduces the ability for alliances to climb leaderboards as "no one is inconvenienced." But that's a very singular perspective.
I actually argued *for* the shorter season the last time. But there's a huge difference with believing my way is right and thinking that if Kabam doesn't so what I say that "smacks of terrible leadership." The people who disagree with you aren't terrible. Maybe you're just wrong. Or maybe there is no objectively best way to proceed, and it is a question of judgment.
The reason I say terrible leadership isn’t because I think I’m right, it’s because by letting this play out instead of putting a stop to it the people at fault are letting it impact more and more of their customers.
Putting a stop to the season may have inconvenienced some but getting season rewards 2 weeks earlier would have softened that impact.
How is it good judgment to extend this situation for a further 3 weeks then it needed to?
Don’t even have to call it a season. All they had to do was cop their mistake on the chin, payout rewards and bring forward the next season.
The fault is theirs not the player bases yet the player base has been continually negatively impacted by the way it’s been handled.
When you mess up you should minimise the fallout instead of making everyone else suffer because of circumstances outside of their control.
You would have received rewards 2 weeks earlier, used half the items you would have then usual for them and then had the option to go again with the next season pushed forward. Unhappy but not really inconvenienced all that much.
Everyone pushed hard in the opening weeks, what’s happening now is many not knowing where the actually stand.
Alliances are also having the onus put onto them to hold onto members a week longer so they can collect.
I respond for two purposes: to reply to the poster, and to express for the rest of the readers. I'm pretty sure I've accomplished the latter, and I'm pretty sure I have done all I can to serve the former.
Everyone pushed hard in the opening weeks, what’s happening now is many not knowing where the actually stand.
Alliances are also having the onus put onto them to hold onto members a week longer so they can collect.
You would have received less Rewards had they gone that route because the Rewards are calculated for a specific amount of time. A Season gives what a Season gives because a Season takes what a Season takes.
The Top 3000 know where they stand. It's been posted.
Holding on to Members for a week shouldn't be an inconvenience to that many Allies, unless there's a turnover rate of every Season. I would hardly call it extraneous to wait a week so someone can collect their Rewards.
As a leader, I'm not a fan of Seasons. All complications the mode has aside (rampant manipulation by allis, sudden system bugs, etc), since its implementation it has shortened the window of recruitment enormously.
If you want to be "fair" you got to hang on to people you'd have replaced longer than you would've otherwise.
And as for "preparing before the season ends", I suppose if your alliance is in a considerably high position you get ppl requesting to join without recruiters having to lift a finger. But for the thousands of Gold allis that's not so simple. Most players that fit these brackets sit tight until season payout, but they also wait for AQ payout before they start looking for a new home.
(The only good thing about SA rewards being so outdated now is that people don't care so much about those anymore. Coz that used to be another bothersome factor taken into account by ppl moving teams).
If you have time to spare I suppose you can go on poaching missions. Do those work? Too rarely to be worth the hasle in my experience.
Then when you manage to find someone interested in what you can offer them, the new member(s) need to be tried and tested for a few days in both AQ and AW. If they only talk the talk during recruitment but don't walk the walk when it's play time? We got to go searching again. And fast.
So yeh. Incovenient big time
At the moment we don't know how long the break between seasons will be, but just want to put it out there that for many of us managing alliances, one week would be way too short.
You seem to think that because you only played 4 wars you’re only untitled t 4 wars worth of a seasons rewards regardless of a dev mistake or not?
Is there a reason for this? Are you on the compensation team or were receiving updates on potential outcomes for the issue?
The current situation makes me think that’s what should have been done. Thought that much is about obvious.
The issue isn’t resolved, it’s still ongoing.
It also has the potential to create even more issues and impact a lot more people then original issue did in the first place.
We’re still dealing with the fallout from the original issue therefor the issue is still ongoing with potential of alliances not being able to move on players or having players kicked and not receiving rewards. I Also doubt they’re adjusting scores for the rest of the season regarding what tier you would have been in at the time and there is no accounting for the skewed matchups that resulted in the dropping or ascending of tiers after 5 and 6.
Also having an impact on the alliances below 3000 currently.
Why is this even a debate?
You don’t think it’s reasonable because thats your modus operandi.
The rewards were coming to players anyway, they’re not a compensation package but rather an admitting of a mistake and moving onto the next season rather then letting it effect the subsequent weeks ahead like they are.
I’ve been over this.
I think it’s bad leadership to have let this develop rather then stopping it where it stood.
Debate the semantics and try and twist words all you like.