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Omega red non-contact hits not healing him? path 3
Triborn
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Hello everybody, i have been searching all around the forums and reddit about this and nobody seem to tall about it.
I just noticed in Wars Omega he is not healing back from any of his non-contact hits in Psychic Thorns node (Tier 5, Path 3 Psychic Thorns 2).
It shouldn't be interacting with Quick Nullify because its not a regeneration buff, the heal should come from the node. I fought multiple champions in that node on multiple days (Human Torch, Abomination, Dr. Strange, Havok). And i didn't heal in any of them.
Here is a video (not mine) where you can see an OR r5 duped fighting in that same node, as you can see he is not taking damage from non-contact attacks but he is not healing 75% of the damage done as the node describes:
https://youtu.be/7YodA4R3Y5s
Anyone knows of this is a bug? Am i the only one experiencing this? Am i missing something?
I just noticed in Wars Omega he is not healing back from any of his non-contact hits in Psychic Thorns node (Tier 5, Path 3 Psychic Thorns 2).
It shouldn't be interacting with Quick Nullify because its not a regeneration buff, the heal should come from the node. I fought multiple champions in that node on multiple days (Human Torch, Abomination, Dr. Strange, Havok). And i didn't heal in any of them.
Here is a video (not mine) where you can see an OR r5 duped fighting in that same node, as you can see he is not taking damage from non-contact attacks but he is not healing 75% of the damage done as the node describes:
https://youtu.be/7YodA4R3Y5sAnyone knows of this is a bug? Am i the only one experiencing this? Am i missing something?
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Omega won't take damage from Psychic Thorns if he sticks to Medium and Heavy attacks, but he won't heal back via the node either.
The tentacles make contact, so there will be no healing. However, the tentacles allow Omega Red to bypass the damage he'd normally see.
By the way, I'm on the side of his hits being physical, so I agree with you, but you can't rely on what's written in the character description, as clearly it does not apply.
If you pop into v2 with Omega and hit with medium hits, you will take damage back.
You can't apply one rule somewhere and the completely ignore it elsewhere.
So if the glancing node makes 100%-100% = 0 he can take damage.
I agree with you that descriptions in this game are sometimes very misleading and inconsistent.
It’s just that this one isn’t one of those.
The node deals damage if you hit the opponent with a physical contact attack
So this is divided in 3x parts:
- First, it need to be an attack. This includes medium, lights, heavy's and special attacks. Damage over time, direct damage, etc, that are not considered attacks, will bypass it.
- Second, it need to be an attack that makes contact. So, projectile attacks (attacks that don't make contact) will bypass the node as well.
- And third, it needs to be a physical attack. Meaning that energy attacks will bypass the node as well.
So counters for the node are:
- Character's that deal energy attacks in their combo's. This includes symbiote supreme, magneto, human torch for example
- Character's that have projectile attacks in their kit. This includes Havoc (medium attacks only), Yondu (yaka arrow attacks only), Ebony Maw (first medium), for example.
- Character's that deal damage over time damage, not realying on attacks. An example would be Quake, that doesn't need to attack the opponent.
Just curious, if the end result is the same, what was wrong with mine ?
That’s like saying OML with 100% concussion on him will make him his 95% bleed resistance only 5% effective
But let me ask you this. If glancing was -50% instead of -100% would OR still take damage all the time or just half the time ?
Or would he take damage all the time but just half?
Or none of the above ?
Onmix's description of the interaction makes sense, to a degree, given how the game works. And as I'm the muppet questioning it, I'll go with his ;-)
But having said this, I still maintain it's open to interpretation and it seems you two do too!
Shall we just ignore the text and say "working as intended"?
You are equating the chance to proc something with the potency of the ability
If glancing was 50% it means it has a 50% to fail and to work not that he would take 50% reduced damage
Again you’re confusing potency with probability
The glancing doesn’t reduce the amount of damage, it reduces the trigger chance of the ability regardless of how much damage said ability would reduce.
Thanks and no worries either !
It actually works as Umberto says.
Even though mine could make sense he is right.
The -100% oaar of glancing reduces the chance for OR’s ability to trigger. Meaning it won’t trigger.
However, the amount of damage his ability reduces has nothing to do with that.
Glancing reduces the CHANCE for the ability to TRIGGER, not how much damage it would reduce if it did.
Umberto's description may be technically what happens, but then I'd expect Omega's description to say that his hits have a 100% chance to reduce the damage. But it doesn't, so his description doesn't match the text!
Hence why "working as intended" rather than as described.