Which is the better Armor Shatter Champ

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop

Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better

SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more

SwarmOfRavens · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

Savage said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

You can't really judge a champ for needing a dupe. That's like judging cmm or hyperion for their reliance on the dupe. Awakenings come eventually so I don't really see the problem. Medusa's ease of use, stated utilities, and stronger damage output is why I rank her over Aarkus. Aarkus has slower ramp up and less damage. No immunities is a huge factor of my opinion of him as well.

I'm not judging medusa for needing a dupe plenty champs are designed that way. I didn't include it for either of them, with it medusa gains more damage through furies and auto block and aarkus shrugs of non damaging debuffs. I can see where you're coming from but personally I don't factor ease of use that highly since you end up getting used to a champs playstyle over time. Medusas dps is higher but aarkus is a ramp up champ and in longer fights outdamages her, the amount of specials you use starts to stack damage quickly.
And I can see how immunities play a role but if I need a poison immune champ medusa wouldn't be part of the first 10 champs I think to bring

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

shadow_lurker22 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Not to mention he can shrug off non damaging debuffs when awakened

Not sure how you can disagree with that when it is the ability or if you don't think it is then tell me what you think his sig ability is.

H3t3r · May 2020

Medusa

shadow_lurker22 said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Not to mention he can shrug off non damaging debuffs when awakened
Not sure how you can disagree with that when it is the ability or if you don't think it is then tell me what you think his sig ability is.

That sig isnt as good as it seems for offense... as you lose willpower healing which is what your want in act6. Defense its nice to have.

KeepinItReal · May 2020

Medusa

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more

Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas,...he's still versatile. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better for armor shatter that can be used in more situations. If u prefer Aarkus, then cool. I should've just voted Medusa & left it at that. It's only the fact u said "everyone overrates her" that triggered my response. Gotta defend that Ginger who's been invaluable for certain match ups & content. The best when needed for specifically for armor shatter & some poison immune. That's just for my roster though.

Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.
Uall that shared why u chose AArkus has still shown me more aspects to him. Have a good day Sir

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more
Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas. Sort of like IWIM to me. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better armor shatter than AArkus. If that who u prefer, then cool.
Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.

I played both as a 4* but now have Aarkus as a 5* as well always liked him better.

Also champs only evade when close to you because if you are far away you aren't hitting them lol. Well except ranged specials.

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

And as normal the children are spamming the disagree oh well doesn't both me how immature they are

KeepinItReal · May 2020

Medusa

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more
Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas. Sort of like IWIM to me. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better armor shatter than AArkus. If that who u prefer, then cool.
Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.
I played both as a 4* but now have Aarkus as a 5* as well always liked him better.

Also champs only evade when close to you because if you are far away you aren't hitting them lol. Well except ranged specials.

Ummm, never seen evaders like NC, Spideys, Dom, etc let me stay next to them for 2.3+secs,...they're usually trying to make me chase them around w/out a proper counter. Lol
If not on stun/debuff immune can simply Parry/stun,...but can do that w/any champ, including Medusa.
I see ur pov, thanks for the Aarkus insight,...will go "test" him again for fun.

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more
Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas. Sort of like IWIM to me. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better armor shatter than AArkus. If that who u prefer, then cool.
Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.
I played both as a 4* but now have Aarkus as a 5* as well always liked him better.

Also champs only evade when close to you because if you are far away you aren't hitting them lol. Well except ranged specials.
Ummm, never seen evaders like NC, Spideys, Dom, etc let me stay next to them for 2.3+secs,...they're usually trying to make me chase them around w/out a proper counter. Lol
If not on stun/debuff immune can simply Parry/stun,...but can do that w/any champ, including Medusa.
I see ur pov, thanks for the Aarkus insight,...will go "test" him again for fun.

Yeah he does take a little bit to start power gaining and armour shattering but once he does it gets easier and easier. Definitely an underrated champion imo.
Edit: also to counter them evading before armour up is placed I usually reparry.

KeepinItReal · May 2020

Medusa

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more
Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas. Sort of like IWIM to me. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better armor shatter than AArkus. If that who u prefer, then cool.
Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.
I played both as a 4* but now have Aarkus as a 5* as well always liked him better.

Also champs only evade when close to you because if you are far away you aren't hitting them lol. Well except ranged specials.
Ummm, never seen evaders like NC, Spideys, Dom, etc let me stay next to them for 2.3+secs,...they're usually trying to make me chase them around w/out a proper counter. Lol
If not on stun/debuff immune can simply Parry/stun,...but can do that w/any champ, including Medusa.
I see ur pov, thanks for the Aarkus insight,...will go "test" him again for fun.
Yeah he does take a little bit to start power gaining and armour shattering but once he does it gets easier and easier. Definitely an underrated champion imo.
Edit: also to counter them evading before armour up is placed I usually reparry.

I'd prob agree that he's underrated. After uall sharing Aarkus info I'm going to have to find out myself,...never know, may find a use for him. Still doubt it will be for armor shatter over Ginger (hair) snaps,... unless there's an inverted poison node.

shadow_lurker22 · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

KeepinItReal said:

shadow_lurker22 said:
I kind of figured Medusa was going to win though because for some reason everyone overrates her
Wait @shadow_lurker22 she's "overrated",...why? Here's my case: she can easily get to a.shatter from SP1 (26 secs), then to SP3 (35 secs) for continuous a.shatter. Or just spam SP1s or SP1, then SP2s for crazy # of bleeds (that can reverse Regen w.3/3 Despair, done it vs ROL Wolvie).
For Aarkus to a.shatter 1st gotta get to his S2 (5 secs per armor break, potentially nice). Also gotta be next to them for 2.3secs per a.break during his p.gain), then cycle S1s to refresh,..not simple, even to describe it. Ha Also, if u don't want to bleed (Omega, Elsa) don't shatter & just destroy w/S2 (which guarantees stun for 3.5secs) + poison immune.
If ur talking about who's better when getting hit, then maybe AArkus bc alot of anti-power control. Oh wait, her Auto Block can save ur a** on attack. His proximity armor break/coldsnap & p.gain are good,...but if u need p.gain, Hyperion is King.

*Not saying she's the best champ or even cosmic, more of a "specialist". Yet, when asking who's the better a.shatter champ like OP @Marvel2289 is,...she is by far in my pov. Couldn't tell u how many allies we're pumped to get her for Act 5.4.6 Ultron, plus option vs 6.2.2 Mr.Sin Boss if don't have 5/6* Heimdall. I have both, don't use AArkus. She gets called in to relief pitch for a.shatter strike out every time. She simply has so much more in her kit they had to "break" her for a month+ so AArkus felt like the "interim champion" when 1st released. lol Medusa is Thee Armor Shatter Queen from my POV,... Case Closed. #MicDrop
Aarkus utility out classes hers by far is why I like him better
SwarmOfRavens said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:

shadow_lurker22 said:

Savage said:
Vision is only above Medusa with the OG Vision synergy and since that isn't easily acquirable I'd have to go with Medusa on this one. She just hits harder with stronger DoT than Aarkus as well as more easily applicable, potent armor breaks and she also has Poison Immunity while he lacks any. If you mess up she always has an autoblock to keep you from being knocked out after 2 hits of the opponent.
How exactly is her armour breaks easier to apply it is hitting with mediums vs just staying close
You can't always stay close to the opponent. That is one of the issues with omega red but he can prevent that by using a heavy attack while Aarkus has to use an sp3 to do that. His large power gain actually hurts him more than helps him because it can drag fights on and prevent him from converting 10 armor breaks into an armor shatter. Medusa can Medium twice and sp1 and she will already have a strong armor shatter on them. Plus she can even get to an sp3 and stack the armor shatters.
I've never had any problems keeping Armour shatter with Aarkus in fact I have found him easier than Medusa since her armour breaks run off and somtime the AI is super defensive. Aarkus armour breaks do run off but you can pause the timer on them. yes he takes time to build up but I don't mind each to their own I guess.
You can't pause the timer on armor shatters. What I'm trying to say is that you have to constantly keep an eye on your own power to get maximum damage output with Aarkus otherwise you will have a weaker armor shatter. If you have to use an sp3 just to stack to maximum armor breaks then that just makes Medusa seem even easier.
I never said you could pause the armour shatter and with his power gain specials are not a problem to throw
Well if you're using suicides then you wouldn't want to spam sp1s to keep stacking the armor breaks. Even without using them I feel like the sp1 isn't really effective at what it's intended to do. This means that you either have to slowly combo the opponent or just stand near them to stack armors to 10 unless you use an sp3 which makes the fight drag like I said. I know what Aarkus is capable of as I intend to rank him to r5 because he is fun to play and I love his character as a whole but unless you have the Vision synergy, Medusa has more utility. That small synergy allows him to shut down the entire tech class which is awesome. I respect the opinion that you guys share of Aarkus but in my personal opinion Medusa is better unless he has said synergy.
Suicides are upto personal preference, even champs like Hyperion suffer when used with suicides.
You don't want to use special 1 with aarkus after the first armour shatter.sp3 all the way, yes fights are longer because of the sp3 animation but it gives you the fury and keeps both the armour stacking and coldsnap constant.
I don't see how medusa is better utility wise.
She's got armour shatter, poison immunity and bleed
Aarkus has armour shatter, coldsnap for countering evade, a ton of power gain buffs for buffed up without needing dupe, 80% resistance for power drain and access to fury on sp3

Read this if you don't believe me I still like Medusa just like Aarkus more
Well I did say he's better if u specifically need a anti-power control, not coldsnap immune, who evades only when close to u, p.gain, shrugging debuffs champ. Lol
Then again, none of those things is he the best, many better champs in ALL areas. Sort of like IWIM to me. I just prefer Medusa & think she's by far better armor shatter than AArkus. If that who u prefer, then cool.
Gotta ask, do u have or play Medusa at same R/Lvl as AArkus? I've got both & never use AArkus as the best counter to any current champ/node combination. There's always better options. When armor shatter is needed, Medusa is on my team.
I played both as a 4* but now have Aarkus as a 5* as well always liked him better.

Also champs only evade when close to you because if you are far away you aren't hitting them lol. Well except ranged specials.
Ummm, never seen evaders like NC, Spideys, Dom, etc let me stay next to them for 2.3+secs,...they're usually trying to make me chase them around w/out a proper counter. Lol
If not on stun/debuff immune can simply Parry/stun,...but can do that w/any champ, including Medusa.
I see ur pov, thanks for the Aarkus insight,...will go "test" him again for fun.
Yeah he does take a little bit to start power gaining and armour shattering but once he does it gets easier and easier. Definitely an underrated champion imo.
Edit: also to counter them evading before armour up is placed I usually reparry.
I'm going to find out now myself if he's underrated,...never know may find a use for him,...but still doubt it will be for armor shatter unless there's an inverted poison node.

I'll give you he takes some getting used to but since he was the best 5* cosmic I had he got used alot and now I find him pretty easy to use.

Championcritic · May 2020

Medusa

Comparing only the armor shatter aspect and nothing else, medusa can get her armor shatter alot faster just by using sp1 + 2 mediums compared to aarkus whom requires an sp2 to turn armor breaks into armor shatters.

ege999men · May 2020

Medusa

I have both I play both frequently. Both hit hard but there are some things only medusa can do
1. Your sp1 will always shatter armor but aarkus has to stay close to the opponent for the first 10 - 15 seconds and in some matchups that's not something you want to do
2. Medusa can spam heavy in the corner so against robots once you armor shatter them you can just parry in the corner and sp3 to refresh this is something aarkus can't do
3. While aarkus potential has a longer armor shatter debuff Medusa's shatter is more consistent and accessible. She can use sp3 to refresh it while aarkus needs to wait 30 seconds to get a max duration armor shatter with his sp2. 30 seconds is a lot on this game

Overall both are great champions with a lot of damage. I think aarkus might be slightly better on defense especially power gain nodes but medusa is also very good. If you have one ranked up you don't have to invest in other to deal with robots

Mrspider568 · May 2020

Medusa

More damage if sig ability is unlocked and use black bolt synergy to increase the fury limit to 6

Savage · May 2020

Medusa

May_The_Way said:

Love to see Aarkus rock this kind of damage. And this ain’t even close Medusa’s full potential. When she has 2 stacks of Armor Shatter & 6 Furies it’s nutty.

If Black Bolt were a better champion, I do believe Medusa would get WAYY more recognition these days. Unfortunately, Black Bolt is an awful champion, so Medusa doesn’t get as much love.

That's one if the reasons I would like to see Black Bolt and Karnak reworked after Magneto

Mrspider568 · May 2020

Medusa

Savage said:

May_The_Way said:

Love to see Aarkus rock this kind of damage. And this ain’t even close Medusa’s full potential. When she has 2 stacks of Armor Shatter & 6 Furies it’s nutty.

If Black Bolt were a better champion, I do believe Medusa would get WAYY more recognition these days. Unfortunately, Black Bolt is an awful champion, so Medusa doesn’t get as much love.
That's one if the reasons I would like to see Black Bolt and Karnak reworked after Magneto

Karnak and blackbolt are good champs even black bolt has a synergy that allows him to get permanent fury an

SwarmOfRavens · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

May_The_Way said:

Love to see Aarkus rock this kind of damage. And this ain’t even close Medusa’s full potential. When she has 2 stacks of Armor Shatter & 6 Furies it’s nutty.

If Black Bolt were a better champion, I do believe Medusa would get WAYY more recognition these days. Unfortunately, Black Bolt is an awful champion, so Medusa doesn’t get as much love.

He easily crits 9k+ mediums and 6k lights with sp3 fury, his basic attack damage is good but once again his damage will come from spamming specials and the extra energy damage it causes.
Medusa hits hard and is great but having to lug the dead weight that is blackbolt around in act 6 is a no-no.

SwarmOfRavens · May 2020

Vision Aarkus

May_The_Way said:

SwarmOfRavens said:

May_The_Way said:

Love to see Aarkus rock this kind of damage. And this ain’t even close Medusa’s full potential. When she has 2 stacks of Armor Shatter & 6 Furies it’s nutty.

If Black Bolt were a better champion, I do believe Medusa would get WAYY more recognition these days. Unfortunately, Black Bolt is an awful champion, so Medusa doesn’t get as much love.
He easily crits 9k+ mediums and 6k lights with sp3 fury, his basic attack damage is good but once again his damage will come from spamming specials and the extra energy damage it causes.
Medusa hits hard and is great but having to lug the dead weight that is blackbolt around in act 6 is a no-no.
9K mediums is light work for Medusa, with or without Black Bolt.

Well obviously, medusa has better basic attack damage.
I've seen aarkus hit up to 11k medium crits but picked a conservative number because masteries may affect it.
My point was he has good damage and makes up for the difference of basic attacks with special spam

Which is the better Armor Shatter Champ

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