We need another 12.0

I know I’m probably going to get a ton of dislikes for this but I believe we do need another 12.0
The problem with the game is the disparity between the tops champs and the bottom I’ve seen people saying that act 5 with skill could be done with pretty much any champ but if you bring champs like ghost she can do all of it except for maybe the collector with extreme ease
The problem with act 6 and 7 is they have to make the nodes ridiculous in order to compensate for how stronger some champs are which leads to 90% of champs being obsolete
While I know some people will say just buff rather then nerf it’d be much harder to buff 150 champs then to nerf 20
Obviously tuning down act 6 would have to go with this
If they were to do something like this they’d have to go do what they did with cull and namor and give full resources back including awakening gems iso sig stones etc
Nerfs wouldn’t be as bad still keep them as the top champs but not by that far of a degree
And then lastly if they were to do this give people long notice so at least if people want to spend on that champ they’ll know the exact nerfs that are happening
Like I said I know tons of people will disagree with this but the game can’t keep going on with 20 champs being the standard because otherwise content like act 6 will be the only way forward

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I’ve almost dropped the game . 0 enthusiasm to play and negative to spend , I’ll wager nothing will change

They only know how to make this game p2w and don’t need f2p in real , but otherwise it’s a free game , lmao

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....and a 12.0 after that? One after that?

After a while, that just becomes a way for people to get their own way.

The problem with act six and stuff like that is that the nodes have little to do with skill. If the nodes become skill based, then almost all champs will be viable. Some will just be more viable. The grandmaster fight is a perfect example

So reason I say no is because this was done already and failed. Executed and years later we still ended up not only back in the same position but so far past where it was then.

The game cannot try a reset without some sort of plan to not end up here again. Also the plan can’t be to do this every few years.

Also in order to execute this the node design would need to be rethought as well because it’s so champ specific compared to when 12.0 was executed. This would break act 6 even more than it already is.

If we go that route again things need to change. Either meta balances need to be living part of the game ongoing(and node design need to consider this) and the stance on rank down gems as a part of game needs to change with those types of meta balances ongoing(as constant balancing required ability to change decisions) or there needs to be far better testing and quality control and managing the balance of champs top to bottom on release and ongoing. Rebalances would need to speed up and champ release slow down in my opinion to fix the overall game balance and keep it in control.

If you cant execute some version of change to how the game is managed, quality control of champs coming out, and rebalance of champs in the current meta then a 12.0 type rebalance is merely a pointless stop gap to try and fix the game that will just result in the same issue down the road.

Also I don’t think meta balances are possible in this game because of the spending nature of the game. Really the later is the only solution to me but champ selling is too profitable to slow down champion creation.

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Needs might seem logical but you have to keep in mind that then compared to now is very different, then you’d get lucky in some 4 stars you’ve earned in content or a whale if they got lucky in their $100 opening and pulled that sw, now people are spending tens of thousands to get stuff, and neefing what people have spent for or grinded for for ages is not going to get a good reaction, and I might be pushed to quit

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Another person pissed becuase they haven’t gotten the champs they want. These posts are so annoying they don’t need to nerf champs, they just need to nerf the nodes. That’s it’s. They just have to remember how to make nodes that punish bad play but reward good play,

I.E. Life Transfer, Bane etc.

There would be nothing that would make me leave this game faster than if the destroyed those champs like they did to strange. What would be the point of getting excited about any champion, it would always be a matter of time before whoever survived the nerf became a top champ and then eventually after enough people get tired of not having them....I need another 12.0.

Just stop.

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With another 12.0 we will lose the remaining 50% of the community.

Short Answer: No
Long Answer: Hell No

Another person pissed becuase they haven’t gotten the champs they want. These posts are so annoying they don’t need to nerf champs, they just need to nerf the nodes. That’s it’s. They just have to remember how to make nodes that punish bad play but reward good play,

I.E. Life Transfer, Bane etc.

There would be nothing that would make me leave this game faster than if the destroyed those champs like they did to strange. What would be the point of getting excited about any champion, it would always be a matter of time before whoever survived the nerf became a top champ and then eventually after enough people get tired of not having them....I need another 12.0.

Just stop.

Exactly, couldn't of said it more perfectly.

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I’ve almost dropped the game . 0 enthusiasm to play and negative to spend , I’ll wager nothing will change

They only know how to make this game p2w and don’t need f2p in real , but otherwise it’s a free game , lmao

Please do. Please put it down and walk away.

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N o
What’s your solution then
People can keep saying act 6 is bs but the problem is because it’s designed for the top champs so they don’t steamroll it

The Top Players steamroll it all regardless. Remember Abyss was supposed to take time for even the best players and they all 100% it in less than a week.

Kabam is not going to do another 12.0, the first one went over badly and another one will cause countless players to quit. This would self destruct their most successful game which is bad for business, so I highly doubt it'll happen again.

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No thanks.

Im tired of waiting years to get champs then seeing them "adjusted" or otherwise messed with.

I keep hearing that roster progression is a thing, RNG is a thing and being patient with content is a thing. When I'm lucky enough to get a gamechanger I have an expectation of being able to do what others have done, my own skill notwithstanding.

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shadow_lurker22

Yo whatever you smoking I recommend quitting.

@Knation

You've come to the wrong place for this kind of discussion with the forums.. Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but Reddit is your better bet for controversial or anti-kabam sentiment. Many users here are much more Kabam apologetic.

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